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Participantif you add everything up, a hospital stay really shouldn’t be that costly.
The ER doc probably spent at the most an hour for a stroke patient. they get paid at $200/hour. (that’s $430k yearly, so I’m not shortchanging any professional fees here)
The radiologist interprets the CT and MRI, takes a trained radiologist half an hour per study, that’s basically $200 as well.
The internist pulls in $100/hour, he/she comes and see your dad once a day, let’s say your dad was admitted for 5 days, that’s $500.
there was probably a neurologist, paid at $150/hour, saw your dad for an hour the first day, and half an hour for the next 4 days, so that’s $450.
that’s all of the doctor fees, a grand total of $1350.
an RN cost about $300 per day, but they divide their time with 4 patients, so that’s $80 per day, or $500 for the whole admission.
Let’s just assume everyone else involved from the speech therapist to the physical therapist to the radiology tech to the phlebotomist and the cleaning lady added up to another $500.
So all of the support staff cost $1000.
5 days of medications at best say another $1000.
assuming $200/day hotel fee for room and board, that’s $1000 for the 5 days.
so the total is $4350, plus $650 for administrative cost, $5000 is about right.
ParticipantI heard these have extremely invasive roots. The potting is definitely a good idea.
ParticipantI heard these have extremely invasive roots. The potting is definitely a good idea.
ParticipantI heard these have extremely invasive roots. The potting is definitely a good idea.
ParticipantI heard these have extremely invasive roots. The potting is definitely a good idea.
ParticipantI heard these have extremely invasive roots. The potting is definitely a good idea.
Participantcardiac bypass or multiple stent placement.
often time the patient would even present to the ER with angiogram and map to a specific hospital from their various countries.
if they come over with “unstable symptoms,” hospitals can not legally turn them away. and since the only way to “stabilize” is the bypass surgery or multiple stents, the surgery or procedure are done essentially free of charge.
Participantcardiac bypass or multiple stent placement.
often time the patient would even present to the ER with angiogram and map to a specific hospital from their various countries.
if they come over with “unstable symptoms,” hospitals can not legally turn them away. and since the only way to “stabilize” is the bypass surgery or multiple stents, the surgery or procedure are done essentially free of charge.
Participantcardiac bypass or multiple stent placement.
often time the patient would even present to the ER with angiogram and map to a specific hospital from their various countries.
if they come over with “unstable symptoms,” hospitals can not legally turn them away. and since the only way to “stabilize” is the bypass surgery or multiple stents, the surgery or procedure are done essentially free of charge.
Participantcardiac bypass or multiple stent placement.
often time the patient would even present to the ER with angiogram and map to a specific hospital from their various countries.
if they come over with “unstable symptoms,” hospitals can not legally turn them away. and since the only way to “stabilize” is the bypass surgery or multiple stents, the surgery or procedure are done essentially free of charge.
Participantcardiac bypass or multiple stent placement.
often time the patient would even present to the ER with angiogram and map to a specific hospital from their various countries.
if they come over with “unstable symptoms,” hospitals can not legally turn them away. and since the only way to “stabilize” is the bypass surgery or multiple stents, the surgery or procedure are done essentially free of charge.
Participantforeigners routinely do this:
They go see a doctor in their own country, get the diagnosis and the treatment plan down.
the doctor then teaches them to describe their condition in more urgent terms. (for example, if someone has heart disease but stable, they are taught to describe the symptoms in more severe ways, like, I am having chest pressure like an elephant sitting on my chest with pain radiating down my left arm and jaw).
The foreigner then buy a plane ticket and come over and have the taxi drive him/her to the hospital of their choice, present with the “emergent symptoms” and is admitted and treated. the foreigner then flies back home.
I’m not saying this is what happened to your parents. nor am I saying it is their intend to walk away from debt unpaid from their treatment here. Just pointing out that thousands of people do this intentionally day in and day out and there is no legal action or collection attempts.
I also want to point this out to you. If the admission for the stroke was $5000, would you pay it? of course! And in most single payer countries that would be how much the bill be.
Instead, the $30k goes back as a loss and the insurance company use this loss to justify further increases next year on the rest of us.
just another story that illustrate how broken this system is.
Participantforeigners routinely do this:
They go see a doctor in their own country, get the diagnosis and the treatment plan down.
the doctor then teaches them to describe their condition in more urgent terms. (for example, if someone has heart disease but stable, they are taught to describe the symptoms in more severe ways, like, I am having chest pressure like an elephant sitting on my chest with pain radiating down my left arm and jaw).
The foreigner then buy a plane ticket and come over and have the taxi drive him/her to the hospital of their choice, present with the “emergent symptoms” and is admitted and treated. the foreigner then flies back home.
I’m not saying this is what happened to your parents. nor am I saying it is their intend to walk away from debt unpaid from their treatment here. Just pointing out that thousands of people do this intentionally day in and day out and there is no legal action or collection attempts.
I also want to point this out to you. If the admission for the stroke was $5000, would you pay it? of course! And in most single payer countries that would be how much the bill be.
Instead, the $30k goes back as a loss and the insurance company use this loss to justify further increases next year on the rest of us.
just another story that illustrate how broken this system is.
Participantforeigners routinely do this:
They go see a doctor in their own country, get the diagnosis and the treatment plan down.
the doctor then teaches them to describe their condition in more urgent terms. (for example, if someone has heart disease but stable, they are taught to describe the symptoms in more severe ways, like, I am having chest pressure like an elephant sitting on my chest with pain radiating down my left arm and jaw).
The foreigner then buy a plane ticket and come over and have the taxi drive him/her to the hospital of their choice, present with the “emergent symptoms” and is admitted and treated. the foreigner then flies back home.
I’m not saying this is what happened to your parents. nor am I saying it is their intend to walk away from debt unpaid from their treatment here. Just pointing out that thousands of people do this intentionally day in and day out and there is no legal action or collection attempts.
I also want to point this out to you. If the admission for the stroke was $5000, would you pay it? of course! And in most single payer countries that would be how much the bill be.
Instead, the $30k goes back as a loss and the insurance company use this loss to justify further increases next year on the rest of us.
just another story that illustrate how broken this system is.
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