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Participant[quote=jpinpb]ocr – in effect, then, we can say Americans are getting fatter b/c they lack happiness and are seeking it through sugar and fat which are cheap, legal and readily available.
So maybe the solution would be to not only target diet and exercise, but to find other safer sources of happiness.
That will be a tricky one b/c the “happiness” derived from eating is the temporary rise in serotonin.
Are there other things that can raise serotonin that are safe? Music? Jogging? Bicycling? Hiking?
Here’s one for TG. Sex?
What are some things that people can engage in that will raise serotonin that are healthy?[/quote]
Americans are less happy because we are a lot more stressed.
This is what happens when you force a family to become a double income household in order to maintain a “middle class lifestyle.”
ocrenter
Participant[quote=jpinpb]
I’m sure there must be some study out there on this, whether certain foods raise serotonin levels. I bet eating an apple or an apricot won’t do it, but chocolate cake would.
I mean, certain food are comforting, right? I can understand if there’s a chemical reaction when eating certain foods that cause people to be happy and they don’t care about their weight, b/c, well, they’re happy.[/quote]
it is well known that fat and carbs drive up the serotonin level in the system rapidly.
of course, that increase is very short lived and the level falls quickly as well. this means instead of a cookie, you got to go for the second. but after the second, you need to go for the third… so on and so forth…
this is the same pattern that leads to narcotic addiction. The high created by the narcs are very short lived, the low then create the need to seek out more narcs to get back to the high. this is why sugar and fat are so addictive.
except instead of narcotics, sugar and fat are cheap, they are everywhere, and they are offered with a smile and often with a toy to children everywhere.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=jpinpb]
I’m sure there must be some study out there on this, whether certain foods raise serotonin levels. I bet eating an apple or an apricot won’t do it, but chocolate cake would.
I mean, certain food are comforting, right? I can understand if there’s a chemical reaction when eating certain foods that cause people to be happy and they don’t care about their weight, b/c, well, they’re happy.[/quote]
it is well known that fat and carbs drive up the serotonin level in the system rapidly.
of course, that increase is very short lived and the level falls quickly as well. this means instead of a cookie, you got to go for the second. but after the second, you need to go for the third… so on and so forth…
this is the same pattern that leads to narcotic addiction. The high created by the narcs are very short lived, the low then create the need to seek out more narcs to get back to the high. this is why sugar and fat are so addictive.
except instead of narcotics, sugar and fat are cheap, they are everywhere, and they are offered with a smile and often with a toy to children everywhere.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=jpinpb]
I’m sure there must be some study out there on this, whether certain foods raise serotonin levels. I bet eating an apple or an apricot won’t do it, but chocolate cake would.
I mean, certain food are comforting, right? I can understand if there’s a chemical reaction when eating certain foods that cause people to be happy and they don’t care about their weight, b/c, well, they’re happy.[/quote]
it is well known that fat and carbs drive up the serotonin level in the system rapidly.
of course, that increase is very short lived and the level falls quickly as well. this means instead of a cookie, you got to go for the second. but after the second, you need to go for the third… so on and so forth…
this is the same pattern that leads to narcotic addiction. The high created by the narcs are very short lived, the low then create the need to seek out more narcs to get back to the high. this is why sugar and fat are so addictive.
except instead of narcotics, sugar and fat are cheap, they are everywhere, and they are offered with a smile and often with a toy to children everywhere.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=jpinpb]
I’m sure there must be some study out there on this, whether certain foods raise serotonin levels. I bet eating an apple or an apricot won’t do it, but chocolate cake would.
I mean, certain food are comforting, right? I can understand if there’s a chemical reaction when eating certain foods that cause people to be happy and they don’t care about their weight, b/c, well, they’re happy.[/quote]
it is well known that fat and carbs drive up the serotonin level in the system rapidly.
of course, that increase is very short lived and the level falls quickly as well. this means instead of a cookie, you got to go for the second. but after the second, you need to go for the third… so on and so forth…
this is the same pattern that leads to narcotic addiction. The high created by the narcs are very short lived, the low then create the need to seek out more narcs to get back to the high. this is why sugar and fat are so addictive.
except instead of narcotics, sugar and fat are cheap, they are everywhere, and they are offered with a smile and often with a toy to children everywhere.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=jpinpb]
I’m sure there must be some study out there on this, whether certain foods raise serotonin levels. I bet eating an apple or an apricot won’t do it, but chocolate cake would.
I mean, certain food are comforting, right? I can understand if there’s a chemical reaction when eating certain foods that cause people to be happy and they don’t care about their weight, b/c, well, they’re happy.[/quote]
it is well known that fat and carbs drive up the serotonin level in the system rapidly.
of course, that increase is very short lived and the level falls quickly as well. this means instead of a cookie, you got to go for the second. but after the second, you need to go for the third… so on and so forth…
this is the same pattern that leads to narcotic addiction. The high created by the narcs are very short lived, the low then create the need to seek out more narcs to get back to the high. this is why sugar and fat are so addictive.
except instead of narcotics, sugar and fat are cheap, they are everywhere, and they are offered with a smile and often with a toy to children everywhere.
ocrenter
Participantlooks like some investors purchased residual lots and are now finishing up Silhouette from where John Laing Homes left off.
$680,000 for 3,080 sqft, or $220/sqft.
high mello roos as well.
a bit high but 4S is in demand.
ocrenter
Participantlooks like some investors purchased residual lots and are now finishing up Silhouette from where John Laing Homes left off.
$680,000 for 3,080 sqft, or $220/sqft.
high mello roos as well.
a bit high but 4S is in demand.
ocrenter
Participantlooks like some investors purchased residual lots and are now finishing up Silhouette from where John Laing Homes left off.
$680,000 for 3,080 sqft, or $220/sqft.
high mello roos as well.
a bit high but 4S is in demand.
ocrenter
Participantlooks like some investors purchased residual lots and are now finishing up Silhouette from where John Laing Homes left off.
$680,000 for 3,080 sqft, or $220/sqft.
high mello roos as well.
a bit high but 4S is in demand.
ocrenter
Participantlooks like some investors purchased residual lots and are now finishing up Silhouette from where John Laing Homes left off.
$680,000 for 3,080 sqft, or $220/sqft.
high mello roos as well.
a bit high but 4S is in demand.
August 4, 2010 at 7:00 AM in reply to: Well folks….Looks like interest rates for loans are about to go lower…… #586147ocrenter
Participantif you got ripped off then I must be royally screwed…
just relocked my jumbo conforming 30 year refi prior to closing at 4.5%, zero point.
my mortgage payment is awfully close to my rent back in the days… (after the tax benefit of course).
August 4, 2010 at 7:00 AM in reply to: Well folks….Looks like interest rates for loans are about to go lower…… #586240ocrenter
Participantif you got ripped off then I must be royally screwed…
just relocked my jumbo conforming 30 year refi prior to closing at 4.5%, zero point.
my mortgage payment is awfully close to my rent back in the days… (after the tax benefit of course).
August 4, 2010 at 7:00 AM in reply to: Well folks….Looks like interest rates for loans are about to go lower…… #586773ocrenter
Participantif you got ripped off then I must be royally screwed…
just relocked my jumbo conforming 30 year refi prior to closing at 4.5%, zero point.
my mortgage payment is awfully close to my rent back in the days… (after the tax benefit of course).
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