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ocrenter
Participantof course we can all do our best to limit consumption.
but that’s also like telling buyers during the peak of the bubble not to buy. of course it was personal responsibility ultimately, but how many exercised personal responsibility and how many actually thought it through and resisted the urge to buy?
same thing here, of course ultimately it boils down to personal responsibility. but how many are listening about the need to fight and resist the cheap food?
What is scary here we have the additional element of chemical dependency. The cheap food and high calorie does create a cheap HIGH followed by emotional LOW. This is the perfect set up for addiction pattern. So if someone learns this pattern at childhood, you are looking at an addictive pattern that will be extremely hard to correct. even if that person knows full well of the need to make changes.
The pattern of obesity and food addiction is very similar compared to other addictions. Just like addicts moving in and out of rehabs, most people with weight issues move in and out of diets. And the only explaination here is the food is now a lot more potent at activating the pleasure pathway and it is also a whole lot cheaper. Like I said before, cocaine was much less of an issue before some guy figured out how to make it into cheap crack.
As to your price comparison to before, there were no remotes in the 70’s, so I’ll assume 25 cent fries were 70’s prices as well. Adjusted for inflation you are looking at $1.5 which is pricier compared to today. Plus the amount of fries per serving has increased dramatically as well. Remember, child size hamburger of today was the regular sized hamburger of yesteryears.
I understand what you are trying to say about children being less active and how folks are glued to the TV. Fitness and an active lifestyle is extremely important. But again, while there are a lot of other important issues that promote the obesity crisis, the number one issue that dramatically altered the landscape is still the change in food.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=flu]My new years resolution is to be more financially irresponsible than I was last year.[/quote]
What about a new house?
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070509-9124_Shadow_Hill_Rd_Santee_CA_92071
it is only 10 mins away from LJ!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=flu]My new years resolution is to be more financially irresponsible than I was last year.[/quote]
What about a new house?
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070509-9124_Shadow_Hill_Rd_Santee_CA_92071
it is only 10 mins away from LJ!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=flu]My new years resolution is to be more financially irresponsible than I was last year.[/quote]
What about a new house?
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070509-9124_Shadow_Hill_Rd_Santee_CA_92071
it is only 10 mins away from LJ!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=flu]My new years resolution is to be more financially irresponsible than I was last year.[/quote]
What about a new house?
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070509-9124_Shadow_Hill_Rd_Santee_CA_92071
it is only 10 mins away from LJ!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=flu]My new years resolution is to be more financially irresponsible than I was last year.[/quote]
What about a new house?
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070509-9124_Shadow_Hill_Rd_Santee_CA_92071
it is only 10 mins away from LJ!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
ocrenter
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
ocrenter
ParticipantAll complex issues of the day involve multiple factors. Such was the case with the housing bubble. We blamed the realtors, we blamed the ignorant buyers, we blamed George Chamberlin, we blamed the builders. But ultimately it was the toxic mortgage that were EVERYWHERE. Toxic mortgages that everybody could get cheaply (as in zero down). That was the driver of the bubble. When the ultimate source of the toxic mortgages died, everything did as well.
Same thing here, you can blame cars, video games, increase of single parent families, air condition, and TVs that have more than one knob. But ultimately one key issue is still the food. Food and drinks are packed in with so much calories and at such a cheap price that I would imagine if someone graphs a $/cal graph it would probably look like the reverse of the housing bubble graph of yesteryears.
The perfect example is Chili’s, where a couple can literally go in, spend $20, and get 4500 cal per person out of that $20. (btw, the food industry of course fought tooth and nails to prevent mandatory calorie information in restaurants. now that they are mandated, they hide the calorie info in small prints at the back of the drinks menu. Bottom line, they DONT want you to know what you are really getting. And while Piggs WILL ask and find that calorie info, the vast majority of WE THE PEOPLE would not).
There is absolutely no way the energy saving from having TV remote, using AC, and sitting all day in front of TVs and video games can begin to compare to the fact that someone in this society can obtain 450 calories with a single dollar. To put into better prospective, that Chili’s meal that only cost $10 per person but yield 4500 calories needed 45 miles of fast paced walking to burn off. I dont care how your parents walked uphill in the snow to go to school and back and now your kids are now chauffeured to the corner elementary school. None of the other factors account for the obesity crisis as much as the food factor.
Bottom line, it is the food supply, people.
ocrenter
ParticipantAll complex issues of the day involve multiple factors. Such was the case with the housing bubble. We blamed the realtors, we blamed the ignorant buyers, we blamed George Chamberlin, we blamed the builders. But ultimately it was the toxic mortgage that were EVERYWHERE. Toxic mortgages that everybody could get cheaply (as in zero down). That was the driver of the bubble. When the ultimate source of the toxic mortgages died, everything did as well.
Same thing here, you can blame cars, video games, increase of single parent families, air condition, and TVs that have more than one knob. But ultimately one key issue is still the food. Food and drinks are packed in with so much calories and at such a cheap price that I would imagine if someone graphs a $/cal graph it would probably look like the reverse of the housing bubble graph of yesteryears.
The perfect example is Chili’s, where a couple can literally go in, spend $20, and get 4500 cal per person out of that $20. (btw, the food industry of course fought tooth and nails to prevent mandatory calorie information in restaurants. now that they are mandated, they hide the calorie info in small prints at the back of the drinks menu. Bottom line, they DONT want you to know what you are really getting. And while Piggs WILL ask and find that calorie info, the vast majority of WE THE PEOPLE would not).
There is absolutely no way the energy saving from having TV remote, using AC, and sitting all day in front of TVs and video games can begin to compare to the fact that someone in this society can obtain 450 calories with a single dollar. To put into better prospective, that Chili’s meal that only cost $10 per person but yield 4500 calories needed 45 miles of fast paced walking to burn off. I dont care how your parents walked uphill in the snow to go to school and back and now your kids are now chauffeured to the corner elementary school. None of the other factors account for the obesity crisis as much as the food factor.
Bottom line, it is the food supply, people.
ocrenter
ParticipantAll complex issues of the day involve multiple factors. Such was the case with the housing bubble. We blamed the realtors, we blamed the ignorant buyers, we blamed George Chamberlin, we blamed the builders. But ultimately it was the toxic mortgage that were EVERYWHERE. Toxic mortgages that everybody could get cheaply (as in zero down). That was the driver of the bubble. When the ultimate source of the toxic mortgages died, everything did as well.
Same thing here, you can blame cars, video games, increase of single parent families, air condition, and TVs that have more than one knob. But ultimately one key issue is still the food. Food and drinks are packed in with so much calories and at such a cheap price that I would imagine if someone graphs a $/cal graph it would probably look like the reverse of the housing bubble graph of yesteryears.
The perfect example is Chili’s, where a couple can literally go in, spend $20, and get 4500 cal per person out of that $20. (btw, the food industry of course fought tooth and nails to prevent mandatory calorie information in restaurants. now that they are mandated, they hide the calorie info in small prints at the back of the drinks menu. Bottom line, they DONT want you to know what you are really getting. And while Piggs WILL ask and find that calorie info, the vast majority of WE THE PEOPLE would not).
There is absolutely no way the energy saving from having TV remote, using AC, and sitting all day in front of TVs and video games can begin to compare to the fact that someone in this society can obtain 450 calories with a single dollar. To put into better prospective, that Chili’s meal that only cost $10 per person but yield 4500 calories needed 45 miles of fast paced walking to burn off. I dont care how your parents walked uphill in the snow to go to school and back and now your kids are now chauffeured to the corner elementary school. None of the other factors account for the obesity crisis as much as the food factor.
Bottom line, it is the food supply, people.
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