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ocrenter
Participant[quote=AN][quote=ocrenter]I do agree they are gouging those that have not gone solar. But just judging by the roofs driving around, would say the majority of SFR throughout the county are still without solar. They will only speed up the conversion to solar either via purchase or lease.
I just don’t understand the short sighted business case here, that’s all.[/quote]
Again, I don’t see those who would be pushing over the fence and get solar will be that much. Again, I think the majority are in the group that can’t get solar (either physically or financially or just doesn’t make sense for them to, since they’re paying <$100/month in electricity). So, they can continue to increase the rate. My bet is, at some point, they'll start charging us for usage of the grid, then the math might no longer make sense for some.[/quote] Time will tell for sure.Participant[quote=SK in CV]Hopefully they’re ashamed. They should be.[/quote]
That’s my fear. Very likely the national poll showing dominating lead by Hiliary is undercounting Trump supporters by a wide margin.
Participant[quote=AN][quote=ocrenter]I suppose. Although they might be accelerating the process. I’m certainly happy about it since it speeds up the ROI on my PV system.[/quote]
I think what’s happening is, people like us are causing them to gouge those who can’t get solar. They have to recoup the revenue from somewhere. Not everyone can get solar (poorer areas, people w/ roof that’s facing bad directions, people living in condos, rentals, etc). There are a lot more people in those categories than people like us. So, be blessed that they chose to do it that way and you skirt paying your fair share instead of them charging a flat fee for transmission/grid use. After all, we don’t have backup battery to be completely off grid, so we’re still using their infrastructure, but we don’t have to pay for it.[/quote]I do agree they are gouging those that have not gone solar. But just judging by the roofs driving around, would say the majority of SFR throughout the county are still without solar. They will only speed up the conversion to solar either via purchase or lease.
I just don’t understand the short sighted business case here, that’s all.
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=ocrenter]
Is SDGE just egging consumers to jump to solar? The higher their rates, the faster people will jump to solar. They do realize that’s bad for business right?[/quote]
Looks similar to what I see SW companies do all the time. When they see their product is rapidly approaching end of life, they gouge the customer for as much as they can in the short-term, knowing it will take years for their customers to switch over to something open source.
With SDGE, if the power infrastructure is going solar anyway, why wouldn’t they try and maximize their take now while they still have a captive audience?[/quote]
I suppose. Although they might be accelerating the process. I’m certainly happy about it since it speeds up the ROI on my PV system.
Participant[quote=AN]SDG&E have reached its net metering cap. So, how would that affect EV-TOU?[/quote]
My understanding re: net metering 2.0 is TOU is mandatory and there’s a one time sign up charge of around $135 at the time of installation.
Participantjust got an e-mail from Solare Energy regarding the new SDGE rate:
“To put this in perspective, in 2011 tier 1 rates for SDG&E were $0.14 and they currently sit at $0.19. Now, we expect a raise in our electricity rates gradually over time, SDG&E and most California Utility Companies have higher growth rate than the national 1.8%-3.2%. We see on average 6%-7.5% here in SDG&E territory. With the flattening of tiers from 4 to 2, the tier 2 rate of $0.16 in 2011 has increased to $0.39. Tier 4 in 2011 was at $0.31 and tier 3 was at $0.29.”
I verified this and the numbers are legit.
At around 1000 kWh per month the new rate would have cost me $325
With EV-TOU the monthly would be $220.
With solar + EV-TOU, my monthly is a $120 credit.
The spread between the new tiered rate vs solar + EV-TOU is $445, at least during the summer months.
Is SDGE just egging consumers to jump to solar? The higher their rates, the faster people will jump to solar. They do realize that’s bad for business right?
Participant[quote=svelte]
On used Leafs, don’t forget to factor in a new battery which can run $3000-5000.
I prefer the Volt to alleviate range anxiety, especially as battery range decreases over time. But a used Volt will cost more $$.[/quote]
one major problem with the LEAF is you have to document significant range reduction to even get that new battery.
whereas Tesla and BMW are both committed to the idea of battery replacement when upgrades are available in the future.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/31/nissan-leaf-depreciates-worse-than-any-other-car/
highest depreciation of any car! im interested.
i was opposed initially but im gonna check em out…i think this might be for me..[/quote]
you think you are getting a second car, in reality it will end up being your main vehicle of operation.
Participant[quote=TeCKis300]Leaf’s have proven to be very reliable. Since it’s a rather new vehicle, it has all the latest safety technology. And also has all the connectivity, options, and gadgets you would want from a new car. Plus that warranty!
The great thing is, as cheap as the corolla is to operate, this thing will be cheaper still! Practically pennies for “gas”, and very very low maintenance requirements.
As you’ll be someone new to EV’s, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. The motors instant torque, no heat/exhaust from underneath (especially hot summer days, and never having to detour to the gas station (full “tank” every morning), as HUGE perks to EV’s.
For the record, I don’t own a Leaf. Many of my colleagues and coworkers do. My wife has a RAV4 EV that I haul the family around in on weekends. I personally like the aroma and sound of burning lots of dinosaurs, but can’t deny the advantages of EVs.[/quote]
The reliability is intrinsic to EV itself, gone are the thousands of parts needed for a typical ICE. no oil change, no transmission service, no annual 16 point inspection…
The cost of operation is extremely low as well. Especially if you have solar, it is like having an oil well in the backyard and bypassing the varios stages of prehistoric vegitations–> dinosaurs–> decomposing bodies–> millions of years of fossilization–> exploration–> drilling–> transport–> refining–> more transport–> driving to gas station. How many middle men and middle lizards did that pass through? As a kid I actually dreamed of having an oil well in my backyard, with an EV and solar, I can honestly say this is a dream come true. LOL!
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Very interesting ZK. I have a hard time figuring out how that squares ideologically in the minds of those people. Police abuse is government overreach to the extreme. If one cares about the constitution, one should never want the police to hold arbitrary powers over people.[/quote]
Just authoritarianism using the flag and the constitution as cover for that authoritarian tendency.
http://www.vox.com/2016/5/20/11720276/donald-trump-authoritarianism
Participant[quote=svelte]This is all a result of having so many cameras available in public now: cell phone, surveillance, etc.
Just 10 short years ago, the police would have said it was justified and created some sort of scenario to make their case. The general public would have believed it, since police are generally more trustworthy than the general public. Now, videos tell the real story.
Over the next 10-20 years, the whole environment will change. Police will be much more careful in how they apply force (as they should be), and the cameras will verify the situations where it was justified.
That’s all a good thing. Things are getting better. It’s just going to be a painful transition in the meantime.
Cameras are a good thing. It’s gonna keep people honest – both police and citizens.[/quote]
Agree, +1
Participanthttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries
The police are not trigger happy just because they feel like it. They want an uneventful day and go back to their family at the end of every shift. They are like this because they are a scared bunch. Quite frankly with a population so loaded up with guns and ammo, no kidding they are scared. Fear causes all animals to strike at the slightest hint of danger.
June 26, 2016 at 8:36 AM in reply to: OT: Would you return a pepperoni pizza you bought at an amusement park because it didn’t have enough pepperonis? #799138ParticipantConsidering processed meat is a known carcinogen, the pizza with 4 pieces of pepperoni was less deadly than the one with 5. LOL!
June 26, 2016 at 8:35 AM in reply to: OT: Would you return a pepperoni pizza you bought at an amusement park because it didn’t have enough pepperonis? #799137Participant[quote=abell]While the customer may have been unreasonable in this situation, I would also like to point out that Legoland food is not very good. A few years ago I took my kids to the Legoland waterpark and we had lunch there. My kids tried the pizza and didn’t like it, nor did they eat it (and my kids have never turned down pizza before). I wrote an email to Legoland complaining about expensive food that my kids wouldn’t eat and told them for that price, it should at least be something my kids will eat. They responded with sending me Legoland cash, which was a nice gesture, but not very useful as we didn’t have passes. Whether the food has improved at all, I don’t know.[/quote]
Haha, I think you just described the entire world of amusement park food!
Bottomline: captured audience, lack of choice, hungry and thirsty. Let’s feed them overpriced junk and they will still come back for more.
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