[nostradamus]

Wow. It’s great that you have friends to give you the inside scoop. As a civvy I only have MSM and the internet, which we all know is the same as being blindfolded.

I wanted to bring up another point: Before the Iranian revolution of 1979 the country was run by a shah (king) Reza Pahlavi or something like that. He was put in place by US and SAS (Brit) forces. They did this by overthrowing a democratically elected leader (Mosaddeq)! This was back in 1953. Yes, they/we (SAS and CIA) destroyed democracy in Iran, who had it way back in 1953. Google it, this is no secret or conspiracy theory.

Long story short, the Shah/king they replaced the Iranian democracy with was considered a western puppet which led to the revolution. That’s when these “Supreme leader” Ayatollah jerk-wads came about. We are paying the price for our own mistakes IMO.

I’ve never been to Iran but I’ve been to Guatamela where very similar things were done by the CIA. I can tell you it’s eye-opening to see the perspective they have and hear their stories.

[nostradamus]

Wow. It’s great that you have friends to give you the inside scoop. As a civvy I only have MSM and the internet, which we all know is the same as being blindfolded.

I wanted to bring up another point: Before the Iranian revolution of 1979 the country was run by a shah (king) Reza Pahlavi or something like that. He was put in place by US and SAS (Brit) forces. They did this by overthrowing a democratically elected leader (Mosaddeq)! This was back in 1953. Yes, they/we (SAS and CIA) destroyed democracy in Iran, who had it way back in 1953. Google it, this is no secret or conspiracy theory.

Long story short, the Shah/king they replaced the Iranian democracy with was considered a western puppet which led to the revolution. That’s when these “Supreme leader” Ayatollah jerk-wads came about. We are paying the price for our own mistakes IMO.

I’ve never been to Iran but I’ve been to Guatamela where very similar things were done by the CIA. I can tell you it’s eye-opening to see the perspective they have and hear their stories.

[nostradamus]

Wow. It’s great that you have friends to give you the inside scoop. As a civvy I only have MSM and the internet, which we all know is the same as being blindfolded.

I wanted to bring up another point: Before the Iranian revolution of 1979 the country was run by a shah (king) Reza Pahlavi or something like that. He was put in place by US and SAS (Brit) forces. They did this by overthrowing a democratically elected leader (Mosaddeq)! This was back in 1953. Yes, they/we (SAS and CIA) destroyed democracy in Iran, who had it way back in 1953. Google it, this is no secret or conspiracy theory.

Long story short, the Shah/king they replaced the Iranian democracy with was considered a western puppet which led to the revolution. That’s when these “Supreme leader” Ayatollah jerk-wads came about. We are paying the price for our own mistakes IMO.

I’ve never been to Iran but I’ve been to Guatamela where very similar things were done by the CIA. I can tell you it’s eye-opening to see the perspective they have and hear their stories.

[nostradamus]

Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

[nostradamus]

Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

[nostradamus]

Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

[nostradamus]

Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

[nostradamus]

Pablo pointed out my questions exactly.

Let’s say Joe Average works at the movie theater snack counter, has a 2nd job at the gas station and makes $40k per year. He bought a home undocumented for the new FHA-max amount: $625,500

This is way above the 31% mortgage-to-income requirement. Some lender opts to take a 50%+ loss and let Joe keep the house for a $300k refinanced loan. Basically, Joe got a $625k house for $300k, plus he doesn’t get dinged on his credit so he can live to make other financial mistakes. Credit cards here we come!

All this while responsible savers waited for market rationality.

I think this bill is teaching Americans to be irresponsible.

[nostradamus]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]CONCHO: One word for you: Halabja. Saddam’s WMD program was not only of concern to the US, but the French, British and Russians as well.

Saddam used chem weapons against the Kurds at Halabja, and had used them against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War.

Iran’s intents, like Hitler’s, have been clearly and explicitly stated. The hardliner government has made it abundantly clear that they are willing to accept massive casualties in exchange for the destruction of Israel and the US (“The Great Satan”).[/quote]
That’s all true. It’s also true that the US provided those weapons. Part of the reason Iran now hates us. I don’t hear that discussed so much on the MSM.

Just a few results googling us supplies iraq weapons

http://hnn.us/articles/1283.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm

My favorite, wikipedia:
US Support for Iraq during Iran/Iraq War

That was back when we called mujahadeen “freedom fighters”. I remember that term used often on the news when they were fighting Russians in Afghanistan. Today we call them terrorists because they’re fighting against us.

The words “freedom” and “democracy” leave a bad taste for me now because they’re always used by people to deceive us.

[nostradamus]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]CONCHO: One word for you: Halabja. Saddam’s WMD program was not only of concern to the US, but the French, British and Russians as well.

Saddam used chem weapons against the Kurds at Halabja, and had used them against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War.

Iran’s intents, like Hitler’s, have been clearly and explicitly stated. The hardliner government has made it abundantly clear that they are willing to accept massive casualties in exchange for the destruction of Israel and the US (“The Great Satan”).[/quote]
That’s all true. It’s also true that the US provided those weapons. Part of the reason Iran now hates us. I don’t hear that discussed so much on the MSM.

Just a few results googling us supplies iraq weapons

http://hnn.us/articles/1283.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm

My favorite, wikipedia:
US Support for Iraq during Iran/Iraq War

That was back when we called mujahadeen “freedom fighters”. I remember that term used often on the news when they were fighting Russians in Afghanistan. Today we call them terrorists because they’re fighting against us.

The words “freedom” and “democracy” leave a bad taste for me now because they’re always used by people to deceive us.

[nostradamus]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]CONCHO: One word for you: Halabja. Saddam’s WMD program was not only of concern to the US, but the French, British and Russians as well.

Saddam used chem weapons against the Kurds at Halabja, and had used them against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War.

Iran’s intents, like Hitler’s, have been clearly and explicitly stated. The hardliner government has made it abundantly clear that they are willing to accept massive casualties in exchange for the destruction of Israel and the US (“The Great Satan”).[/quote]
That’s all true. It’s also true that the US provided those weapons. Part of the reason Iran now hates us. I don’t hear that discussed so much on the MSM.

Just a few results googling us supplies iraq weapons

http://hnn.us/articles/1283.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm

My favorite, wikipedia:
US Support for Iraq during Iran/Iraq War

That was back when we called mujahadeen “freedom fighters”. I remember that term used often on the news when they were fighting Russians in Afghanistan. Today we call them terrorists because they’re fighting against us.

The words “freedom” and “democracy” leave a bad taste for me now because they’re always used by people to deceive us.

[nostradamus]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]CONCHO: One word for you: Halabja. Saddam’s WMD program was not only of concern to the US, but the French, British and Russians as well.

Saddam used chem weapons against the Kurds at Halabja, and had used them against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War.

Iran’s intents, like Hitler’s, have been clearly and explicitly stated. The hardliner government has made it abundantly clear that they are willing to accept massive casualties in exchange for the destruction of Israel and the US (“The Great Satan”).[/quote]
That’s all true. It’s also true that the US provided those weapons. Part of the reason Iran now hates us. I don’t hear that discussed so much on the MSM.

Just a few results googling us supplies iraq weapons

http://hnn.us/articles/1283.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm

My favorite, wikipedia:
US Support for Iraq during Iran/Iraq War

That was back when we called mujahadeen “freedom fighters”. I remember that term used often on the news when they were fighting Russians in Afghanistan. Today we call them terrorists because they’re fighting against us.

The words “freedom” and “democracy” leave a bad taste for me now because they’re always used by people to deceive us.

[nostradamus]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]CONCHO: One word for you: Halabja. Saddam’s WMD program was not only of concern to the US, but the French, British and Russians as well.

Saddam used chem weapons against the Kurds at Halabja, and had used them against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War.

Iran’s intents, like Hitler’s, have been clearly and explicitly stated. The hardliner government has made it abundantly clear that they are willing to accept massive casualties in exchange for the destruction of Israel and the US (“The Great Satan”).[/quote]
That’s all true. It’s also true that the US provided those weapons. Part of the reason Iran now hates us. I don’t hear that discussed so much on the MSM.

Just a few results googling us supplies iraq weapons

http://hnn.us/articles/1283.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm

My favorite, wikipedia:
US Support for Iraq during Iran/Iraq War

That was back when we called mujahadeen “freedom fighters”. I remember that term used often on the news when they were fighting Russians in Afghanistan. Today we call them terrorists because they’re fighting against us.

The words “freedom” and “democracy” leave a bad taste for me now because they’re always used by people to deceive us.

[nostradamus]

I travel with info on my passport which is different than info on my credit cards, driver’s license, etc. Been doing this for 20 years, no problem.

For your 2nd form of ID a few utility bills to the residence address works for a passport last time I asked.

[nostradamus]

I travel with info on my passport which is different than info on my credit cards, driver’s license, etc. Been doing this for 20 years, no problem.

For your 2nd form of ID a few utility bills to the residence address works for a passport last time I asked.

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