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March 22, 2011 at 3:34 AM in reply to: OT – Should the government fund the press, the arts and the sciences? #680256March 22, 2011 at 3:34 AM in reply to: OT – Should the government fund the press, the arts and the sciences? #680606
njtosd
Participant[quote=CA renter]
This is a subject that could certainly benefit from a review of current and past procedures, so that we can establish the most efficient and cost-effective means of using govt-funded research for the benefit of society.[/quote]
There are actually laws in place that govern the patenting and licensing of federally funded inventions. The purpose of these laws is to ensure competition and a preference for U.S. licensees, among other things. The problem that I had with the system (and I haven’t been involved for a number of years) was that there appeared to be VERY few people (sometimes it seemed like there was one guy . . . ) keeping track of all the records and “ensuring” compliance. My perception was that few really did what was required, so the public wasn’t really getting full advantage from its investment.
March 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM in reply to: OT – Should the government fund the press, the arts and the sciences? #679054njtosd
Participant[quote=CA renter]
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This is one of my biggest pet peeves (and have ranted about it here before). It’s just another way of privatizing the profits, and socializing the losses.
Too many people are ignorant about the facts, and they will insist that private corporations are what drive scientific research and create innovative technologies. What so many don’t know is that the majority of basic research is funded by the government. There would be very little innovation if the government wasn’t there to support the often unprofitable basic research that is required to jump-start the more marketable and profitable R&D.
—————-Science? Yes, the govt needs to fund it, and in a big way. IMHO, the govt needs to receive revenue streams from companies who are able to turn public research into a marketable and profitable venture, IMHO. IOW, the government should hold the patents to govt-funded basic research, and encourage private companies to use that research without being able to buy the patents. This way, we can be sure that there is real competition, rather than the monopolistic profiteering we so often find, especially in medicine. And the taxpayers will finally be rewarded for all the expenses they incur.
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[/quote]KV’s drug, Makena, isn’t patented. KV gets the right to market exclusivity under the Orphan Drug Act, which was designed to encourage pharmaceutical companies to develop drugs that, for a variety of reasons, would likely not be developed if market exclusivity were not guaranteed for a certain period of time. And, although the price jump seems a bit outrageous to me, I think most pregnant women would prefer to receive a drug that has been manufactured under FDA supervision, rather than being whipped up by a compounding pharmacy. I’m sure insurance also plays a big role, plus it appears that KV is required to conduct ongoing investigations of the drug.
But even in the case of patented drugs, patent ownership by the government was the standard up until the Bayh Dole act of 1980, with abysmal results:
“Possibly the most inspired piece of legislation to be enacted in America over the past half-century was the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980. Together with amendments in 1984 and augmentation in 1986, this unlocked all the inventions and discoveries that had been made in laboratories throughout the United States with the help of taxpayers’ money. More than anything, this single policy measure helped to reverse America’s precipitous slide into industrial irrelevance. Before Bayh-Dole, the fruits of research supported by government agencies had gone strictly to the federal government. Nobody could exploit such research without tedious negotiations with a federal agency concerned. Worse, companies found it nigh impossible to acquire exclusive rights to a government owned patent. And without that, few firms were willing to invest millions more of their own money to turn a basic research idea into a marketable product.”
(Economist, 12/14/02).By most accounts, before Bayh-Dole, the federal government had accumulated 30,000 patents, of which only 5% had been licensed and even fewer had found their way into commercial products. Not a great track records.
March 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM in reply to: OT – Should the government fund the press, the arts and the sciences? #679109njtosd
Participant[quote=CA renter]
. . .
This is one of my biggest pet peeves (and have ranted about it here before). It’s just another way of privatizing the profits, and socializing the losses.
Too many people are ignorant about the facts, and they will insist that private corporations are what drive scientific research and create innovative technologies. What so many don’t know is that the majority of basic research is funded by the government. There would be very little innovation if the government wasn’t there to support the often unprofitable basic research that is required to jump-start the more marketable and profitable R&D.
—————-Science? Yes, the govt needs to fund it, and in a big way. IMHO, the govt needs to receive revenue streams from companies who are able to turn public research into a marketable and profitable venture, IMHO. IOW, the government should hold the patents to govt-funded basic research, and encourage private companies to use that research without being able to buy the patents. This way, we can be sure that there is real competition, rather than the monopolistic profiteering we so often find, especially in medicine. And the taxpayers will finally be rewarded for all the expenses they incur.
. . .
[/quote]KV’s drug, Makena, isn’t patented. KV gets the right to market exclusivity under the Orphan Drug Act, which was designed to encourage pharmaceutical companies to develop drugs that, for a variety of reasons, would likely not be developed if market exclusivity were not guaranteed for a certain period of time. And, although the price jump seems a bit outrageous to me, I think most pregnant women would prefer to receive a drug that has been manufactured under FDA supervision, rather than being whipped up by a compounding pharmacy. I’m sure insurance also plays a big role, plus it appears that KV is required to conduct ongoing investigations of the drug.
But even in the case of patented drugs, patent ownership by the government was the standard up until the Bayh Dole act of 1980, with abysmal results:
“Possibly the most inspired piece of legislation to be enacted in America over the past half-century was the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980. Together with amendments in 1984 and augmentation in 1986, this unlocked all the inventions and discoveries that had been made in laboratories throughout the United States with the help of taxpayers’ money. More than anything, this single policy measure helped to reverse America’s precipitous slide into industrial irrelevance. Before Bayh-Dole, the fruits of research supported by government agencies had gone strictly to the federal government. Nobody could exploit such research without tedious negotiations with a federal agency concerned. Worse, companies found it nigh impossible to acquire exclusive rights to a government owned patent. And without that, few firms were willing to invest millions more of their own money to turn a basic research idea into a marketable product.”
(Economist, 12/14/02).By most accounts, before Bayh-Dole, the federal government had accumulated 30,000 patents, of which only 5% had been licensed and even fewer had found their way into commercial products. Not a great track records.
March 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM in reply to: OT – Should the government fund the press, the arts and the sciences? #679714njtosd
Participant[quote=CA renter]
. . .
This is one of my biggest pet peeves (and have ranted about it here before). It’s just another way of privatizing the profits, and socializing the losses.
Too many people are ignorant about the facts, and they will insist that private corporations are what drive scientific research and create innovative technologies. What so many don’t know is that the majority of basic research is funded by the government. There would be very little innovation if the government wasn’t there to support the often unprofitable basic research that is required to jump-start the more marketable and profitable R&D.
—————-Science? Yes, the govt needs to fund it, and in a big way. IMHO, the govt needs to receive revenue streams from companies who are able to turn public research into a marketable and profitable venture, IMHO. IOW, the government should hold the patents to govt-funded basic research, and encourage private companies to use that research without being able to buy the patents. This way, we can be sure that there is real competition, rather than the monopolistic profiteering we so often find, especially in medicine. And the taxpayers will finally be rewarded for all the expenses they incur.
. . .
[/quote]KV’s drug, Makena, isn’t patented. KV gets the right to market exclusivity under the Orphan Drug Act, which was designed to encourage pharmaceutical companies to develop drugs that, for a variety of reasons, would likely not be developed if market exclusivity were not guaranteed for a certain period of time. And, although the price jump seems a bit outrageous to me, I think most pregnant women would prefer to receive a drug that has been manufactured under FDA supervision, rather than being whipped up by a compounding pharmacy. I’m sure insurance also plays a big role, plus it appears that KV is required to conduct ongoing investigations of the drug.
But even in the case of patented drugs, patent ownership by the government was the standard up until the Bayh Dole act of 1980, with abysmal results:
“Possibly the most inspired piece of legislation to be enacted in America over the past half-century was the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980. Together with amendments in 1984 and augmentation in 1986, this unlocked all the inventions and discoveries that had been made in laboratories throughout the United States with the help of taxpayers’ money. More than anything, this single policy measure helped to reverse America’s precipitous slide into industrial irrelevance. Before Bayh-Dole, the fruits of research supported by government agencies had gone strictly to the federal government. Nobody could exploit such research without tedious negotiations with a federal agency concerned. Worse, companies found it nigh impossible to acquire exclusive rights to a government owned patent. And without that, few firms were willing to invest millions more of their own money to turn a basic research idea into a marketable product.”
(Economist, 12/14/02).By most accounts, before Bayh-Dole, the federal government had accumulated 30,000 patents, of which only 5% had been licensed and even fewer had found their way into commercial products. Not a great track records.
March 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM in reply to: OT – Should the government fund the press, the arts and the sciences? #679852njtosd
Participant[quote=CA renter]
. . .
This is one of my biggest pet peeves (and have ranted about it here before). It’s just another way of privatizing the profits, and socializing the losses.
Too many people are ignorant about the facts, and they will insist that private corporations are what drive scientific research and create innovative technologies. What so many don’t know is that the majority of basic research is funded by the government. There would be very little innovation if the government wasn’t there to support the often unprofitable basic research that is required to jump-start the more marketable and profitable R&D.
—————-Science? Yes, the govt needs to fund it, and in a big way. IMHO, the govt needs to receive revenue streams from companies who are able to turn public research into a marketable and profitable venture, IMHO. IOW, the government should hold the patents to govt-funded basic research, and encourage private companies to use that research without being able to buy the patents. This way, we can be sure that there is real competition, rather than the monopolistic profiteering we so often find, especially in medicine. And the taxpayers will finally be rewarded for all the expenses they incur.
. . .
[/quote]KV’s drug, Makena, isn’t patented. KV gets the right to market exclusivity under the Orphan Drug Act, which was designed to encourage pharmaceutical companies to develop drugs that, for a variety of reasons, would likely not be developed if market exclusivity were not guaranteed for a certain period of time. And, although the price jump seems a bit outrageous to me, I think most pregnant women would prefer to receive a drug that has been manufactured under FDA supervision, rather than being whipped up by a compounding pharmacy. I’m sure insurance also plays a big role, plus it appears that KV is required to conduct ongoing investigations of the drug.
But even in the case of patented drugs, patent ownership by the government was the standard up until the Bayh Dole act of 1980, with abysmal results:
“Possibly the most inspired piece of legislation to be enacted in America over the past half-century was the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980. Together with amendments in 1984 and augmentation in 1986, this unlocked all the inventions and discoveries that had been made in laboratories throughout the United States with the help of taxpayers’ money. More than anything, this single policy measure helped to reverse America’s precipitous slide into industrial irrelevance. Before Bayh-Dole, the fruits of research supported by government agencies had gone strictly to the federal government. Nobody could exploit such research without tedious negotiations with a federal agency concerned. Worse, companies found it nigh impossible to acquire exclusive rights to a government owned patent. And without that, few firms were willing to invest millions more of their own money to turn a basic research idea into a marketable product.”
(Economist, 12/14/02).By most accounts, before Bayh-Dole, the federal government had accumulated 30,000 patents, of which only 5% had been licensed and even fewer had found their way into commercial products. Not a great track records.
March 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM in reply to: OT – Should the government fund the press, the arts and the sciences? #680202njtosd
Participant[quote=CA renter]
. . .
This is one of my biggest pet peeves (and have ranted about it here before). It’s just another way of privatizing the profits, and socializing the losses.
Too many people are ignorant about the facts, and they will insist that private corporations are what drive scientific research and create innovative technologies. What so many don’t know is that the majority of basic research is funded by the government. There would be very little innovation if the government wasn’t there to support the often unprofitable basic research that is required to jump-start the more marketable and profitable R&D.
—————-Science? Yes, the govt needs to fund it, and in a big way. IMHO, the govt needs to receive revenue streams from companies who are able to turn public research into a marketable and profitable venture, IMHO. IOW, the government should hold the patents to govt-funded basic research, and encourage private companies to use that research without being able to buy the patents. This way, we can be sure that there is real competition, rather than the monopolistic profiteering we so often find, especially in medicine. And the taxpayers will finally be rewarded for all the expenses they incur.
. . .
[/quote]KV’s drug, Makena, isn’t patented. KV gets the right to market exclusivity under the Orphan Drug Act, which was designed to encourage pharmaceutical companies to develop drugs that, for a variety of reasons, would likely not be developed if market exclusivity were not guaranteed for a certain period of time. And, although the price jump seems a bit outrageous to me, I think most pregnant women would prefer to receive a drug that has been manufactured under FDA supervision, rather than being whipped up by a compounding pharmacy. I’m sure insurance also plays a big role, plus it appears that KV is required to conduct ongoing investigations of the drug.
But even in the case of patented drugs, patent ownership by the government was the standard up until the Bayh Dole act of 1980, with abysmal results:
“Possibly the most inspired piece of legislation to be enacted in America over the past half-century was the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980. Together with amendments in 1984 and augmentation in 1986, this unlocked all the inventions and discoveries that had been made in laboratories throughout the United States with the help of taxpayers’ money. More than anything, this single policy measure helped to reverse America’s precipitous slide into industrial irrelevance. Before Bayh-Dole, the fruits of research supported by government agencies had gone strictly to the federal government. Nobody could exploit such research without tedious negotiations with a federal agency concerned. Worse, companies found it nigh impossible to acquire exclusive rights to a government owned patent. And without that, few firms were willing to invest millions more of their own money to turn a basic research idea into a marketable product.”
(Economist, 12/14/02).By most accounts, before Bayh-Dole, the federal government had accumulated 30,000 patents, of which only 5% had been licensed and even fewer had found their way into commercial products. Not a great track records.
njtosd
ParticipantTake a look at this blog posting on poolcenter.com regarding variable speed pumps:
http://blog.poolcenter.com/article.asp?articleid=6089
One interesting option that was discussed for retrofitting a standard pump:
… you don’t have to purchase an entire new pump. Existing motors that are TEFC (totally enclosed fanned cooled), like pool pumps, can be retrofitted with a separate control box to make your motor more efficient. Hayward has partnered with Emotron to produce wall mounted variable speed drives that use dynamic load monitoring and precision speed control. Networking and communication connections are optional.
Poolcenter.com is a fantastic source of information, hard to find parts, etc.
njtosd
ParticipantTake a look at this blog posting on poolcenter.com regarding variable speed pumps:
http://blog.poolcenter.com/article.asp?articleid=6089
One interesting option that was discussed for retrofitting a standard pump:
… you don’t have to purchase an entire new pump. Existing motors that are TEFC (totally enclosed fanned cooled), like pool pumps, can be retrofitted with a separate control box to make your motor more efficient. Hayward has partnered with Emotron to produce wall mounted variable speed drives that use dynamic load monitoring and precision speed control. Networking and communication connections are optional.
Poolcenter.com is a fantastic source of information, hard to find parts, etc.
njtosd
ParticipantTake a look at this blog posting on poolcenter.com regarding variable speed pumps:
http://blog.poolcenter.com/article.asp?articleid=6089
One interesting option that was discussed for retrofitting a standard pump:
… you don’t have to purchase an entire new pump. Existing motors that are TEFC (totally enclosed fanned cooled), like pool pumps, can be retrofitted with a separate control box to make your motor more efficient. Hayward has partnered with Emotron to produce wall mounted variable speed drives that use dynamic load monitoring and precision speed control. Networking and communication connections are optional.
Poolcenter.com is a fantastic source of information, hard to find parts, etc.
njtosd
ParticipantTake a look at this blog posting on poolcenter.com regarding variable speed pumps:
http://blog.poolcenter.com/article.asp?articleid=6089
One interesting option that was discussed for retrofitting a standard pump:
… you don’t have to purchase an entire new pump. Existing motors that are TEFC (totally enclosed fanned cooled), like pool pumps, can be retrofitted with a separate control box to make your motor more efficient. Hayward has partnered with Emotron to produce wall mounted variable speed drives that use dynamic load monitoring and precision speed control. Networking and communication connections are optional.
Poolcenter.com is a fantastic source of information, hard to find parts, etc.
njtosd
ParticipantTake a look at this blog posting on poolcenter.com regarding variable speed pumps:
http://blog.poolcenter.com/article.asp?articleid=6089
One interesting option that was discussed for retrofitting a standard pump:
… you don’t have to purchase an entire new pump. Existing motors that are TEFC (totally enclosed fanned cooled), like pool pumps, can be retrofitted with a separate control box to make your motor more efficient. Hayward has partnered with Emotron to produce wall mounted variable speed drives that use dynamic load monitoring and precision speed control. Networking and communication connections are optional.
Poolcenter.com is a fantastic source of information, hard to find parts, etc.
njtosd
Participant[quote=briansd1]Dex-o-tex is an interesting option.
I like the smooth uniform finish throughout.The Terrazzo applications (residential, kitchen and bathrooms) look very cool.
njtosd
Participant[quote=briansd1]Dex-o-tex is an interesting option.
I like the smooth uniform finish throughout.The Terrazzo applications (residential, kitchen and bathrooms) look very cool.
njtosd
Participant[quote=briansd1]Dex-o-tex is an interesting option.
I like the smooth uniform finish throughout.The Terrazzo applications (residential, kitchen and bathrooms) look very cool.
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