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[quote=Rustico] Does any other animal waste its time thinking about God?[/quote]

No, they are usually too busy wallowing in their own waste, trying to rid themselves of vermin and/or eating their young when environmental conditions change.

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[quote=Rustico] Does any other animal waste its time thinking about God?[/quote]

No, they are usually too busy wallowing in their own waste, trying to rid themselves of vermin and/or eating their young when environmental conditions change.

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[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

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[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

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[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

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[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

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[quote=bearishgurl]

Invariably, the predictable ends up happening to them while they do nothing waiting for “God to provide.” It never occurs to them that God might “give a leg up” to those who help themselves first :=}[/quote]

First of all, I don’t agree with the view that you seem to be taking that people use religion as an excuse for making bad choices. You may have had that experience, but there are quite a few well controlled studies that support the contention that those who identify themselves as having a religious faith tend to be more physically healthy and (mildly) more emotionally healthy. Rather than inducing passivity, religion seems to be associated with people making better choices. (Or, people who make better health choices also identify themselves as being religious – sort of a chicken/egg issue.)

And second, you don’t really believe that no one else has thought of the “leg up” idea, do you? Is it really possible that there is anyone out there who hasn’t heard the phrase “God helps those who help themselves”? It’s not Biblical, but depending on who you believe, the quote is three or four hundred years old. . . Benjamin Franklin popularized it. Edna Mode had a less spiritual version: “Luck favors the prepared, dahling.”

Anyway, I don’t think there is anything to be gained by using anecdotes to discredit those who don’t have the same belief (I consider atheism a belief) as you. Live and let live . . .

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Don’t really know how relevant this is to anything. MERS seems to have failed to file a timely answer – so the result was independent of the underlying facts of the case.

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Don’t really know how relevant this is to anything. MERS seems to have failed to file a timely answer – so the result was independent of the underlying facts of the case.

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Don’t really know how relevant this is to anything. MERS seems to have failed to file a timely answer – so the result was independent of the underlying facts of the case.

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Don’t really know how relevant this is to anything. MERS seems to have failed to file a timely answer – so the result was independent of the underlying facts of the case.

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Don’t really know how relevant this is to anything. MERS seems to have failed to file a timely answer – so the result was independent of the underlying facts of the case.

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[quote=bearishgurl]

jimmyle, it comes complete with a “sideburned” driver dressed in a baby-blue leisure suit :=][/quote]

You know that’s Chevy Chase in Vacation, right . . ?

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[quote=bearishgurl]

jimmyle, it comes complete with a “sideburned” driver dressed in a baby-blue leisure suit :=][/quote]

You know that’s Chevy Chase in Vacation, right . . ?

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[quote=bearishgurl]

jimmyle, it comes complete with a “sideburned” driver dressed in a baby-blue leisure suit :=][/quote]

You know that’s Chevy Chase in Vacation, right . . ?

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