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MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantThis can’t be a main occupation and you have to be pretty financially secure already but how about being a startup angel investor? http://www.paulgraham.com/angelinvesting.html
As a FYI, Paul Graham was a founder of what is today Yahoo Stores. Along with writing on the technology startups(specialty software) he runs a startup seeding company.
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantThis can’t be a main occupation and you have to be pretty financially secure already but how about being a startup angel investor? http://www.paulgraham.com/angelinvesting.html
As a FYI, Paul Graham was a founder of what is today Yahoo Stores. Along with writing on the technology startups(specialty software) he runs a startup seeding company.
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantThis can’t be a main occupation and you have to be pretty financially secure already but how about being a startup angel investor? http://www.paulgraham.com/angelinvesting.html
As a FYI, Paul Graham was a founder of what is today Yahoo Stores. Along with writing on the technology startups(specialty software) he runs a startup seeding company.
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantThis can’t be a main occupation and you have to be pretty financially secure already but how about being a startup angel investor? http://www.paulgraham.com/angelinvesting.html
As a FYI, Paul Graham was a founder of what is today Yahoo Stores. Along with writing on the technology startups(specialty software) he runs a startup seeding company.
MadeInTaiwan
March 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Are Republicans exaggerating the effects of tax increases to small businesses? #362706Participant[quote=flu]
Don’t disagree with the need? But again $1billion???
How about just taking attaching it to a tax return? I’m a subscriber to “no representation without taxation” 🙂 And yes, that means everyone has to file, even those that don’t need to pay. Also, do you count folks that are illegal? We have rules about citizenship/PR tests, about basic english skills, or is that not necessary anymore?[/quote]
Well, I recall Democrats wanted to use statistic sampling for the census back in the 90s, which would have been much less expensive and more accurate. However, Republicans complained that it was undemocratic and insisted on “physically counting everyone”. In reality it was all about who gets counted etc. Dems wanted minorities, who tend to be less responsive to phone calls to be better represented, which surprise surprise strengthens their position. Repubs, on the other hand, fear over representation of “illegals” and which coincidentally is not their base constituants. Even accounting for massive Govt waste, I suspect that if the statistical approach was used the census would cost much less than 1 billion.
Slightly OT but this parallels the argument for broader voter registration vs. voter fraud argument between the two parties. Dems lean towards broader representation at the cost of a few fraud/mistakes. Repubs are weary of any fraud/mistake even if means more people who are eligible actually voted.
MadeInTaiwan
March 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Are Republicans exaggerating the effects of tax increases to small businesses? #362999Participant[quote=flu]
Don’t disagree with the need? But again $1billion???
How about just taking attaching it to a tax return? I’m a subscriber to “no representation without taxation” 🙂 And yes, that means everyone has to file, even those that don’t need to pay. Also, do you count folks that are illegal? We have rules about citizenship/PR tests, about basic english skills, or is that not necessary anymore?[/quote]
Well, I recall Democrats wanted to use statistic sampling for the census back in the 90s, which would have been much less expensive and more accurate. However, Republicans complained that it was undemocratic and insisted on “physically counting everyone”. In reality it was all about who gets counted etc. Dems wanted minorities, who tend to be less responsive to phone calls to be better represented, which surprise surprise strengthens their position. Repubs, on the other hand, fear over representation of “illegals” and which coincidentally is not their base constituants. Even accounting for massive Govt waste, I suspect that if the statistical approach was used the census would cost much less than 1 billion.
Slightly OT but this parallels the argument for broader voter registration vs. voter fraud argument between the two parties. Dems lean towards broader representation at the cost of a few fraud/mistakes. Repubs are weary of any fraud/mistake even if means more people who are eligible actually voted.
MadeInTaiwan
March 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Are Republicans exaggerating the effects of tax increases to small businesses? #363152Participant[quote=flu]
Don’t disagree with the need? But again $1billion???
How about just taking attaching it to a tax return? I’m a subscriber to “no representation without taxation” 🙂 And yes, that means everyone has to file, even those that don’t need to pay. Also, do you count folks that are illegal? We have rules about citizenship/PR tests, about basic english skills, or is that not necessary anymore?[/quote]
Well, I recall Democrats wanted to use statistic sampling for the census back in the 90s, which would have been much less expensive and more accurate. However, Republicans complained that it was undemocratic and insisted on “physically counting everyone”. In reality it was all about who gets counted etc. Dems wanted minorities, who tend to be less responsive to phone calls to be better represented, which surprise surprise strengthens their position. Repubs, on the other hand, fear over representation of “illegals” and which coincidentally is not their base constituants. Even accounting for massive Govt waste, I suspect that if the statistical approach was used the census would cost much less than 1 billion.
Slightly OT but this parallels the argument for broader voter registration vs. voter fraud argument between the two parties. Dems lean towards broader representation at the cost of a few fraud/mistakes. Repubs are weary of any fraud/mistake even if means more people who are eligible actually voted.
MadeInTaiwan
March 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Are Republicans exaggerating the effects of tax increases to small businesses? #363191Participant[quote=flu]
Don’t disagree with the need? But again $1billion???
How about just taking attaching it to a tax return? I’m a subscriber to “no representation without taxation” 🙂 And yes, that means everyone has to file, even those that don’t need to pay. Also, do you count folks that are illegal? We have rules about citizenship/PR tests, about basic english skills, or is that not necessary anymore?[/quote]
Well, I recall Democrats wanted to use statistic sampling for the census back in the 90s, which would have been much less expensive and more accurate. However, Republicans complained that it was undemocratic and insisted on “physically counting everyone”. In reality it was all about who gets counted etc. Dems wanted minorities, who tend to be less responsive to phone calls to be better represented, which surprise surprise strengthens their position. Repubs, on the other hand, fear over representation of “illegals” and which coincidentally is not their base constituants. Even accounting for massive Govt waste, I suspect that if the statistical approach was used the census would cost much less than 1 billion.
Slightly OT but this parallels the argument for broader voter registration vs. voter fraud argument between the two parties. Dems lean towards broader representation at the cost of a few fraud/mistakes. Repubs are weary of any fraud/mistake even if means more people who are eligible actually voted.
MadeInTaiwan
March 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Are Republicans exaggerating the effects of tax increases to small businesses? #363300Participant[quote=flu]
Don’t disagree with the need? But again $1billion???
How about just taking attaching it to a tax return? I’m a subscriber to “no representation without taxation” 🙂 And yes, that means everyone has to file, even those that don’t need to pay. Also, do you count folks that are illegal? We have rules about citizenship/PR tests, about basic english skills, or is that not necessary anymore?[/quote]
Well, I recall Democrats wanted to use statistic sampling for the census back in the 90s, which would have been much less expensive and more accurate. However, Republicans complained that it was undemocratic and insisted on “physically counting everyone”. In reality it was all about who gets counted etc. Dems wanted minorities, who tend to be less responsive to phone calls to be better represented, which surprise surprise strengthens their position. Repubs, on the other hand, fear over representation of “illegals” and which coincidentally is not their base constituants. Even accounting for massive Govt waste, I suspect that if the statistical approach was used the census would cost much less than 1 billion.
Slightly OT but this parallels the argument for broader voter registration vs. voter fraud argument between the two parties. Dems lean towards broader representation at the cost of a few fraud/mistakes. Repubs are weary of any fraud/mistake even if means more people who are eligible actually voted.
MadeInTaiwan
Participant[quote=as]Flu, Do you know some dealers in LA? I will give them a call and see their offer.
What is the reasonable price I should accept as my bottom line? 14k+tax and doc fees?
I’ve talked to a couple of dealers on the phone in SD. Boy, they are as cunning as fox, as slippery as eels. I hate to deal with them.[/quote]I suggest having everything in place (cash in bank, financing lined up), and call/fax to get the info to a contact at the dealer. Figure out what you’re willing to pay and tell them to get back to you. However you do it, make it clear that you’re ready to buy TODAY. It might help to stop by for a test drive so that you can say “That specific car”. If the dealer does not get back to you, then you’re price is too low. Just because someone got it at a lower price a week ago doesn’t mean the the same deal is available to you. I’ve heard that end of the month helps as dealers want to make the numbers. Don’t know if there is any truth to that.
You have the money, you have the time, so you can relax knowing that you will get a “good” price if you’re patient. You may hate sales people but they need to eat too. Plus you never know, one of you kids may end up working as a car sales person.
Lastly, I am not sure dealers in LA are any less slimy than dealers in SD. What will happen if they lure you to drive up there and then say “sorry, that car was sold”? Now you’re in their familiar territory.
MadeInTaiwan
Participant[quote=as]Flu, Do you know some dealers in LA? I will give them a call and see their offer.
What is the reasonable price I should accept as my bottom line? 14k+tax and doc fees?
I’ve talked to a couple of dealers on the phone in SD. Boy, they are as cunning as fox, as slippery as eels. I hate to deal with them.[/quote]I suggest having everything in place (cash in bank, financing lined up), and call/fax to get the info to a contact at the dealer. Figure out what you’re willing to pay and tell them to get back to you. However you do it, make it clear that you’re ready to buy TODAY. It might help to stop by for a test drive so that you can say “That specific car”. If the dealer does not get back to you, then you’re price is too low. Just because someone got it at a lower price a week ago doesn’t mean the the same deal is available to you. I’ve heard that end of the month helps as dealers want to make the numbers. Don’t know if there is any truth to that.
You have the money, you have the time, so you can relax knowing that you will get a “good” price if you’re patient. You may hate sales people but they need to eat too. Plus you never know, one of you kids may end up working as a car sales person.
Lastly, I am not sure dealers in LA are any less slimy than dealers in SD. What will happen if they lure you to drive up there and then say “sorry, that car was sold”? Now you’re in their familiar territory.
MadeInTaiwan
Participant[quote=as]Flu, Do you know some dealers in LA? I will give them a call and see their offer.
What is the reasonable price I should accept as my bottom line? 14k+tax and doc fees?
I’ve talked to a couple of dealers on the phone in SD. Boy, they are as cunning as fox, as slippery as eels. I hate to deal with them.[/quote]I suggest having everything in place (cash in bank, financing lined up), and call/fax to get the info to a contact at the dealer. Figure out what you’re willing to pay and tell them to get back to you. However you do it, make it clear that you’re ready to buy TODAY. It might help to stop by for a test drive so that you can say “That specific car”. If the dealer does not get back to you, then you’re price is too low. Just because someone got it at a lower price a week ago doesn’t mean the the same deal is available to you. I’ve heard that end of the month helps as dealers want to make the numbers. Don’t know if there is any truth to that.
You have the money, you have the time, so you can relax knowing that you will get a “good” price if you’re patient. You may hate sales people but they need to eat too. Plus you never know, one of you kids may end up working as a car sales person.
Lastly, I am not sure dealers in LA are any less slimy than dealers in SD. What will happen if they lure you to drive up there and then say “sorry, that car was sold”? Now you’re in their familiar territory.
MadeInTaiwan
Participant[quote=as]Flu, Do you know some dealers in LA? I will give them a call and see their offer.
What is the reasonable price I should accept as my bottom line? 14k+tax and doc fees?
I’ve talked to a couple of dealers on the phone in SD. Boy, they are as cunning as fox, as slippery as eels. I hate to deal with them.[/quote]I suggest having everything in place (cash in bank, financing lined up), and call/fax to get the info to a contact at the dealer. Figure out what you’re willing to pay and tell them to get back to you. However you do it, make it clear that you’re ready to buy TODAY. It might help to stop by for a test drive so that you can say “That specific car”. If the dealer does not get back to you, then you’re price is too low. Just because someone got it at a lower price a week ago doesn’t mean the the same deal is available to you. I’ve heard that end of the month helps as dealers want to make the numbers. Don’t know if there is any truth to that.
You have the money, you have the time, so you can relax knowing that you will get a “good” price if you’re patient. You may hate sales people but they need to eat too. Plus you never know, one of you kids may end up working as a car sales person.
Lastly, I am not sure dealers in LA are any less slimy than dealers in SD. What will happen if they lure you to drive up there and then say “sorry, that car was sold”? Now you’re in their familiar territory.
MadeInTaiwan
Participant[quote=as]Flu, Do you know some dealers in LA? I will give them a call and see their offer.
What is the reasonable price I should accept as my bottom line? 14k+tax and doc fees?
I’ve talked to a couple of dealers on the phone in SD. Boy, they are as cunning as fox, as slippery as eels. I hate to deal with them.[/quote]I suggest having everything in place (cash in bank, financing lined up), and call/fax to get the info to a contact at the dealer. Figure out what you’re willing to pay and tell them to get back to you. However you do it, make it clear that you’re ready to buy TODAY. It might help to stop by for a test drive so that you can say “That specific car”. If the dealer does not get back to you, then you’re price is too low. Just because someone got it at a lower price a week ago doesn’t mean the the same deal is available to you. I’ve heard that end of the month helps as dealers want to make the numbers. Don’t know if there is any truth to that.
You have the money, you have the time, so you can relax knowing that you will get a “good” price if you’re patient. You may hate sales people but they need to eat too. Plus you never know, one of you kids may end up working as a car sales person.
Lastly, I am not sure dealers in LA are any less slimy than dealers in SD. What will happen if they lure you to drive up there and then say “sorry, that car was sold”? Now you’re in their familiar territory.
MadeInTaiwan
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