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[quote=patb][quote=jstoesz]for the record I love NPR. Especially the This American Life and Radio Lab and planet money…programs. You all must check it out. Especially on your 6 hour drives to the mountains (maybe that is just my former self talking). But why in Gods name is my tax money going to pay for it? To be honest, I don’t even mind the lefties…There is some damn fine programming. Oh and their music website is absolutely amazing![/quote]

It’s called establishing culture.

Sure NPR could go commercial, and next thing you know it’s 18 minutes of ads an hour.

why do we spend tax money on parks, libraries and fountains?

Look, where my tax money shouldn’t go is to wall street. I have no problem with it going to fix the things I need.[/quote]

I want me free stuff and I want it now!

Excellent use of the word need…

[jstoesz]

[quote=patb][quote=jstoesz]for the record I love NPR. Especially the This American Life and Radio Lab and planet money…programs. You all must check it out. Especially on your 6 hour drives to the mountains (maybe that is just my former self talking). But why in Gods name is my tax money going to pay for it? To be honest, I don’t even mind the lefties…There is some damn fine programming. Oh and their music website is absolutely amazing![/quote]

It’s called establishing culture.

Sure NPR could go commercial, and next thing you know it’s 18 minutes of ads an hour.

why do we spend tax money on parks, libraries and fountains?

Look, where my tax money shouldn’t go is to wall street. I have no problem with it going to fix the things I need.[/quote]

I want me free stuff and I want it now!

Excellent use of the word need…

[jstoesz]

[quote=CA renter]

Again, I don’t have a problem with public servants taking cuts, but the first losses have to be borne by those who caused the liabilities in the first place.

[/quote]

Why?

And that is where we differ CAR…Your argument that fire and police are not overpaid is fine, and for the purposes of my point, I am happy to leave that issue alone.

I was merely pointing out, that one does not have to happen before the other. They must both happen in whatever order we can muster. It makes no sense to hold public sector union compensation over the heads of the tax payer so that they will claw back ill gotten banking industry gains. To the taxpayer all that matters is getting his listing ship of state right. The order of makes no difference.

[jstoesz]

[quote=CA renter]

Again, I don’t have a problem with public servants taking cuts, but the first losses have to be borne by those who caused the liabilities in the first place.

[/quote]

Why?

And that is where we differ CAR…Your argument that fire and police are not overpaid is fine, and for the purposes of my point, I am happy to leave that issue alone.

I was merely pointing out, that one does not have to happen before the other. They must both happen in whatever order we can muster. It makes no sense to hold public sector union compensation over the heads of the tax payer so that they will claw back ill gotten banking industry gains. To the taxpayer all that matters is getting his listing ship of state right. The order of makes no difference.

[jstoesz]

[quote=CA renter]

Again, I don’t have a problem with public servants taking cuts, but the first losses have to be borne by those who caused the liabilities in the first place.

[/quote]

Why?

And that is where we differ CAR…Your argument that fire and police are not overpaid is fine, and for the purposes of my point, I am happy to leave that issue alone.

I was merely pointing out, that one does not have to happen before the other. They must both happen in whatever order we can muster. It makes no sense to hold public sector union compensation over the heads of the tax payer so that they will claw back ill gotten banking industry gains. To the taxpayer all that matters is getting his listing ship of state right. The order of makes no difference.

[jstoesz]

[quote=CA renter]

Again, I don’t have a problem with public servants taking cuts, but the first losses have to be borne by those who caused the liabilities in the first place.

[/quote]

Why?

And that is where we differ CAR…Your argument that fire and police are not overpaid is fine, and for the purposes of my point, I am happy to leave that issue alone.

I was merely pointing out, that one does not have to happen before the other. They must both happen in whatever order we can muster. It makes no sense to hold public sector union compensation over the heads of the tax payer so that they will claw back ill gotten banking industry gains. To the taxpayer all that matters is getting his listing ship of state right. The order of makes no difference.

[jstoesz]

[quote=CA renter]

Again, I don’t have a problem with public servants taking cuts, but the first losses have to be borne by those who caused the liabilities in the first place.

[/quote]

Why?

And that is where we differ CAR…Your argument that fire and police are not overpaid is fine, and for the purposes of my point, I am happy to leave that issue alone.

I was merely pointing out, that one does not have to happen before the other. They must both happen in whatever order we can muster. It makes no sense to hold public sector union compensation over the heads of the tax payer so that they will claw back ill gotten banking industry gains. To the taxpayer all that matters is getting his listing ship of state right. The order of makes no difference.

[jstoesz]

your goals are not mutually exclusive…just because we screwed up on banking industry claw backs (which you will find few on this post who will disagree), does not mean that we do not have to deal with the public sector unions. And as Brian has framed the conundrum (I can not believe I am agreeing with brian), necessitates either tax increases or benefit cuts. Even though you refuse to admit it (I am sure you or your spouse is hoping for a generous government dole), cuts need to be made. Or you can tax the rest of us into destituteness…

Frankly I am tired, and I think others are as well, of you not owning up to your self interest in this matter. My self interest is clear. I do not want to be taxed one more red dollar…how about you CAR?

One more note. Just because I seek more contributions and and end to public unions, does not mean that I want abusive pay of public servants. I want them to be compensated in line with the demand for the job. And if hiring well qualified fireman or policeman is as hard as you say it is, than pay them well. But the numbers of those who want these jobs does not bear your desired salaries, as indispensable as you say they are…

Is that enough parenthetical statement…I think I set a record.

[jstoesz]

your goals are not mutually exclusive…just because we screwed up on banking industry claw backs (which you will find few on this post who will disagree), does not mean that we do not have to deal with the public sector unions. And as Brian has framed the conundrum (I can not believe I am agreeing with brian), necessitates either tax increases or benefit cuts. Even though you refuse to admit it (I am sure you or your spouse is hoping for a generous government dole), cuts need to be made. Or you can tax the rest of us into destituteness…

Frankly I am tired, and I think others are as well, of you not owning up to your self interest in this matter. My self interest is clear. I do not want to be taxed one more red dollar…how about you CAR?

One more note. Just because I seek more contributions and and end to public unions, does not mean that I want abusive pay of public servants. I want them to be compensated in line with the demand for the job. And if hiring well qualified fireman or policeman is as hard as you say it is, than pay them well. But the numbers of those who want these jobs does not bear your desired salaries, as indispensable as you say they are…

Is that enough parenthetical statement…I think I set a record.

[jstoesz]

your goals are not mutually exclusive…just because we screwed up on banking industry claw backs (which you will find few on this post who will disagree), does not mean that we do not have to deal with the public sector unions. And as Brian has framed the conundrum (I can not believe I am agreeing with brian), necessitates either tax increases or benefit cuts. Even though you refuse to admit it (I am sure you or your spouse is hoping for a generous government dole), cuts need to be made. Or you can tax the rest of us into destituteness…

Frankly I am tired, and I think others are as well, of you not owning up to your self interest in this matter. My self interest is clear. I do not want to be taxed one more red dollar…how about you CAR?

One more note. Just because I seek more contributions and and end to public unions, does not mean that I want abusive pay of public servants. I want them to be compensated in line with the demand for the job. And if hiring well qualified fireman or policeman is as hard as you say it is, than pay them well. But the numbers of those who want these jobs does not bear your desired salaries, as indispensable as you say they are…

Is that enough parenthetical statement…I think I set a record.

[jstoesz]

your goals are not mutually exclusive…just because we screwed up on banking industry claw backs (which you will find few on this post who will disagree), does not mean that we do not have to deal with the public sector unions. And as Brian has framed the conundrum (I can not believe I am agreeing with brian), necessitates either tax increases or benefit cuts. Even though you refuse to admit it (I am sure you or your spouse is hoping for a generous government dole), cuts need to be made. Or you can tax the rest of us into destituteness…

Frankly I am tired, and I think others are as well, of you not owning up to your self interest in this matter. My self interest is clear. I do not want to be taxed one more red dollar…how about you CAR?

One more note. Just because I seek more contributions and and end to public unions, does not mean that I want abusive pay of public servants. I want them to be compensated in line with the demand for the job. And if hiring well qualified fireman or policeman is as hard as you say it is, than pay them well. But the numbers of those who want these jobs does not bear your desired salaries, as indispensable as you say they are…

Is that enough parenthetical statement…I think I set a record.

[jstoesz]

your goals are not mutually exclusive…just because we screwed up on banking industry claw backs (which you will find few on this post who will disagree), does not mean that we do not have to deal with the public sector unions. And as Brian has framed the conundrum (I can not believe I am agreeing with brian), necessitates either tax increases or benefit cuts. Even though you refuse to admit it (I am sure you or your spouse is hoping for a generous government dole), cuts need to be made. Or you can tax the rest of us into destituteness…

Frankly I am tired, and I think others are as well, of you not owning up to your self interest in this matter. My self interest is clear. I do not want to be taxed one more red dollar…how about you CAR?

One more note. Just because I seek more contributions and and end to public unions, does not mean that I want abusive pay of public servants. I want them to be compensated in line with the demand for the job. And if hiring well qualified fireman or policeman is as hard as you say it is, than pay them well. But the numbers of those who want these jobs does not bear your desired salaries, as indispensable as you say they are…

Is that enough parenthetical statement…I think I set a record.

[jstoesz]

[quote=saiine]The act of executing is far more important then the actual idea. Everyone has ideas, few execute on them. Even if you have an idea that sounds subpar, or has been done already, just start working on it. Work on it everyday. If you cannot do this, then you don’t want it bad enough.

The part of your idea / business which yields you the most financial gain is seldom in your initial plan anyway. Look at google, microsoft, facebook, zappos.

You need to just start working on something and let it organically mature.[/quote]

I can get behind this statement. Your first comment was a bit disney-ish for my taste.

Someone once said to me. “You do not need a good idea. You just need an idea, and you make it good!”

[jstoesz]

[quote=saiine]The act of executing is far more important then the actual idea. Everyone has ideas, few execute on them. Even if you have an idea that sounds subpar, or has been done already, just start working on it. Work on it everyday. If you cannot do this, then you don’t want it bad enough.

The part of your idea / business which yields you the most financial gain is seldom in your initial plan anyway. Look at google, microsoft, facebook, zappos.

You need to just start working on something and let it organically mature.[/quote]

I can get behind this statement. Your first comment was a bit disney-ish for my taste.

Someone once said to me. “You do not need a good idea. You just need an idea, and you make it good!”

[jstoesz]

[quote=saiine]The act of executing is far more important then the actual idea. Everyone has ideas, few execute on them. Even if you have an idea that sounds subpar, or has been done already, just start working on it. Work on it everyday. If you cannot do this, then you don’t want it bad enough.

The part of your idea / business which yields you the most financial gain is seldom in your initial plan anyway. Look at google, microsoft, facebook, zappos.

You need to just start working on something and let it organically mature.[/quote]

I can get behind this statement. Your first comment was a bit disney-ish for my taste.

Someone once said to me. “You do not need a good idea. You just need an idea, and you make it good!”

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