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Participant[quote=davelj][quote=bluehairdave]
Some of us would rather “do” than to cry and whine about how everything sucks and instead we stand up and fulfill our obligations.
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If you cant cut the mustard and it makes you feel better to knock down everyone else’s dreams as stupid.
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Paid more in taxes in 2010 than im guessing you made the last 5 years from the sour postings you have made.
[/quote]I hear what you’re saying here and I don’t entirely disagree with the general sentiment that I think you’re trying to pass along, but…
The above passages are a bit over the top (and unnecessary) in the context of the discussion and I expect that the Piggs, as a group, are going to have some fun at your expense.
Just my 2 cents.[/quote]
Spot on…
Participant[quote=desmond]No hard feelings AN, I think it is great to able to own a home that your family can grow up in, I did it with my family. But unlike the words of Rich “Buying at the exact bottom or selling at the exact top shouldn’t even be the goal. If you achieved either of these two, it’s because you got lucky” I sold at the very peak in my area code, 91354, and will buy where I want to buy at the bottom, …….. and it won’t be luck.[/quote]
Desmond, although your confidence is endearing, don’t you think that we may not see prices climb in decades? Isn’t that what has happened in japan?
I am not convinced there will be a any good option going forward for s. california. Like someone previously said…
Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. So then are you willing to lose gobs of money to own. I may be willing one day, but I feel like this will be a painful and nuanced decision.
Participant[quote=desmond]No hard feelings AN, I think it is great to able to own a home that your family can grow up in, I did it with my family. But unlike the words of Rich “Buying at the exact bottom or selling at the exact top shouldn’t even be the goal. If you achieved either of these two, it’s because you got lucky” I sold at the very peak in my area code, 91354, and will buy where I want to buy at the bottom, …….. and it won’t be luck.[/quote]
Desmond, although your confidence is endearing, don’t you think that we may not see prices climb in decades? Isn’t that what has happened in japan?
I am not convinced there will be a any good option going forward for s. california. Like someone previously said…
Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. So then are you willing to lose gobs of money to own. I may be willing one day, but I feel like this will be a painful and nuanced decision.
Participant[quote=desmond]No hard feelings AN, I think it is great to able to own a home that your family can grow up in, I did it with my family. But unlike the words of Rich “Buying at the exact bottom or selling at the exact top shouldn’t even be the goal. If you achieved either of these two, it’s because you got lucky” I sold at the very peak in my area code, 91354, and will buy where I want to buy at the bottom, …….. and it won’t be luck.[/quote]
Desmond, although your confidence is endearing, don’t you think that we may not see prices climb in decades? Isn’t that what has happened in japan?
I am not convinced there will be a any good option going forward for s. california. Like someone previously said…
Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. So then are you willing to lose gobs of money to own. I may be willing one day, but I feel like this will be a painful and nuanced decision.
Participant[quote=desmond]No hard feelings AN, I think it is great to able to own a home that your family can grow up in, I did it with my family. But unlike the words of Rich “Buying at the exact bottom or selling at the exact top shouldn’t even be the goal. If you achieved either of these two, it’s because you got lucky” I sold at the very peak in my area code, 91354, and will buy where I want to buy at the bottom, …….. and it won’t be luck.[/quote]
Desmond, although your confidence is endearing, don’t you think that we may not see prices climb in decades? Isn’t that what has happened in japan?
I am not convinced there will be a any good option going forward for s. california. Like someone previously said…
Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. So then are you willing to lose gobs of money to own. I may be willing one day, but I feel like this will be a painful and nuanced decision.
Participant[quote=desmond]No hard feelings AN, I think it is great to able to own a home that your family can grow up in, I did it with my family. But unlike the words of Rich “Buying at the exact bottom or selling at the exact top shouldn’t even be the goal. If you achieved either of these two, it’s because you got lucky” I sold at the very peak in my area code, 91354, and will buy where I want to buy at the bottom, …….. and it won’t be luck.[/quote]
Desmond, although your confidence is endearing, don’t you think that we may not see prices climb in decades? Isn’t that what has happened in japan?
I am not convinced there will be a any good option going forward for s. california. Like someone previously said…
Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. So then are you willing to lose gobs of money to own. I may be willing one day, but I feel like this will be a painful and nuanced decision.
Participant[quote=bluehairdave][quote=deadzone][quote=AN][quote=deadzone]Alternately, while my landlord is dealing with the plumbing and other maintenance issues, I am out surfing or playing golf. On weekends when the typical homeowner is spending all day at Home Depot, I am surfing or playing golf. Yeah you guys are right, home ownership rules and renting just kills your quality of life.[/quote]
I lived in my house for 3 years and my toilet haven’t broken once. How often does your toilet break? The biggest advantage buying have over renting is, in 30 years, all you’ll be paying for is the taxes and insurance on it while if you rent, you’ll have to deal with a much bigger expense. Dealing with rent on a fixed income won’t be fun. You’re at the mercy of your landlord. Much easier to retire with a peace of mind when you know or can predict all of your expenses. In 30 years, most of the money I save for retirement will all go to fun stuff. If I rent indefinitely, I would have to use some of the money I save for retirement for shelter. I would be scared to death if there’s any major inflation period while I’m renting and retired on fixed income.[/quote]Yes there are advantages/disadvantages to both owning and renting. But you guys with your “american dream” non-sense is tiring. For anyone who bought between 2004 and 2007, how is your dream working out for you?[/quote]
Its working out great actually! This ‘nonsense’ of the American Dream you talk about is pretty awesome!
I bought a house in 2007. Value is pretty much exactly what I bought it for and now im buying a nice big fat house with a large yard for my first child to play in. Its got a view and my current mortgage has been a great write off that I sure could use.
You see..While you have been pouting about how crappy everything is I have been working my ass off to make sure my family doesnt have to worry about where they will live in a few years or if they will be homeless. Some of us would rather “do” than to cry and whine about how everything sucks and instead we stand up and fulfill our obligations. If you have ever been really poor you might know the fear that is instinctive about becoming that poor again.
You see, America is the easiest place to make a buck and to get by and not have to worry about things like running water, power or destitute poverty. And I feel really bad if you think its such a bad place or such a lie to able to live comfortably. When really its quite simply a huge stroke of fortune to live here.
If you cant cut the mustard and it makes you feel better to knock down everyone else’s dreams as stupid. Then I guess go ahead. I hate to see you suffer more. These fake dreams as you call them are what most people might literally kill to obtain elsewhere.
Just to recap. Bought in 2007. Buying in 2011. Paid more in taxes in 2010 than im guessing you made the last 5 years from the sour postings you have made.
Self made and work from home and get to spend all day with my son and wife. Hell. the American Dream is AWESOME![/quote]
I am just going to go out and say it…your are an ass of the worst sort…a self aggrandizing, sensitive one.
Many of the posters can be a bit prickish from time to time (myself included), but you set the bar at a new low. If you are going to be a dick at least attempt to be funny or snarky or something. I have a feeling that you fit well into my construct of s. californians, unlike most of the posters here.
Participant[quote=bluehairdave][quote=deadzone][quote=AN][quote=deadzone]Alternately, while my landlord is dealing with the plumbing and other maintenance issues, I am out surfing or playing golf. On weekends when the typical homeowner is spending all day at Home Depot, I am surfing or playing golf. Yeah you guys are right, home ownership rules and renting just kills your quality of life.[/quote]
I lived in my house for 3 years and my toilet haven’t broken once. How often does your toilet break? The biggest advantage buying have over renting is, in 30 years, all you’ll be paying for is the taxes and insurance on it while if you rent, you’ll have to deal with a much bigger expense. Dealing with rent on a fixed income won’t be fun. You’re at the mercy of your landlord. Much easier to retire with a peace of mind when you know or can predict all of your expenses. In 30 years, most of the money I save for retirement will all go to fun stuff. If I rent indefinitely, I would have to use some of the money I save for retirement for shelter. I would be scared to death if there’s any major inflation period while I’m renting and retired on fixed income.[/quote]Yes there are advantages/disadvantages to both owning and renting. But you guys with your “american dream” non-sense is tiring. For anyone who bought between 2004 and 2007, how is your dream working out for you?[/quote]
Its working out great actually! This ‘nonsense’ of the American Dream you talk about is pretty awesome!
I bought a house in 2007. Value is pretty much exactly what I bought it for and now im buying a nice big fat house with a large yard for my first child to play in. Its got a view and my current mortgage has been a great write off that I sure could use.
You see..While you have been pouting about how crappy everything is I have been working my ass off to make sure my family doesnt have to worry about where they will live in a few years or if they will be homeless. Some of us would rather “do” than to cry and whine about how everything sucks and instead we stand up and fulfill our obligations. If you have ever been really poor you might know the fear that is instinctive about becoming that poor again.
You see, America is the easiest place to make a buck and to get by and not have to worry about things like running water, power or destitute poverty. And I feel really bad if you think its such a bad place or such a lie to able to live comfortably. When really its quite simply a huge stroke of fortune to live here.
If you cant cut the mustard and it makes you feel better to knock down everyone else’s dreams as stupid. Then I guess go ahead. I hate to see you suffer more. These fake dreams as you call them are what most people might literally kill to obtain elsewhere.
Just to recap. Bought in 2007. Buying in 2011. Paid more in taxes in 2010 than im guessing you made the last 5 years from the sour postings you have made.
Self made and work from home and get to spend all day with my son and wife. Hell. the American Dream is AWESOME![/quote]
I am just going to go out and say it…your are an ass of the worst sort…a self aggrandizing, sensitive one.
Many of the posters can be a bit prickish from time to time (myself included), but you set the bar at a new low. If you are going to be a dick at least attempt to be funny or snarky or something. I have a feeling that you fit well into my construct of s. californians, unlike most of the posters here.
Participant[quote=bluehairdave][quote=deadzone][quote=AN][quote=deadzone]Alternately, while my landlord is dealing with the plumbing and other maintenance issues, I am out surfing or playing golf. On weekends when the typical homeowner is spending all day at Home Depot, I am surfing or playing golf. Yeah you guys are right, home ownership rules and renting just kills your quality of life.[/quote]
I lived in my house for 3 years and my toilet haven’t broken once. How often does your toilet break? The biggest advantage buying have over renting is, in 30 years, all you’ll be paying for is the taxes and insurance on it while if you rent, you’ll have to deal with a much bigger expense. Dealing with rent on a fixed income won’t be fun. You’re at the mercy of your landlord. Much easier to retire with a peace of mind when you know or can predict all of your expenses. In 30 years, most of the money I save for retirement will all go to fun stuff. If I rent indefinitely, I would have to use some of the money I save for retirement for shelter. I would be scared to death if there’s any major inflation period while I’m renting and retired on fixed income.[/quote]Yes there are advantages/disadvantages to both owning and renting. But you guys with your “american dream” non-sense is tiring. For anyone who bought between 2004 and 2007, how is your dream working out for you?[/quote]
Its working out great actually! This ‘nonsense’ of the American Dream you talk about is pretty awesome!
I bought a house in 2007. Value is pretty much exactly what I bought it for and now im buying a nice big fat house with a large yard for my first child to play in. Its got a view and my current mortgage has been a great write off that I sure could use.
You see..While you have been pouting about how crappy everything is I have been working my ass off to make sure my family doesnt have to worry about where they will live in a few years or if they will be homeless. Some of us would rather “do” than to cry and whine about how everything sucks and instead we stand up and fulfill our obligations. If you have ever been really poor you might know the fear that is instinctive about becoming that poor again.
You see, America is the easiest place to make a buck and to get by and not have to worry about things like running water, power or destitute poverty. And I feel really bad if you think its such a bad place or such a lie to able to live comfortably. When really its quite simply a huge stroke of fortune to live here.
If you cant cut the mustard and it makes you feel better to knock down everyone else’s dreams as stupid. Then I guess go ahead. I hate to see you suffer more. These fake dreams as you call them are what most people might literally kill to obtain elsewhere.
Just to recap. Bought in 2007. Buying in 2011. Paid more in taxes in 2010 than im guessing you made the last 5 years from the sour postings you have made.
Self made and work from home and get to spend all day with my son and wife. Hell. the American Dream is AWESOME![/quote]
I am just going to go out and say it…your are an ass of the worst sort…a self aggrandizing, sensitive one.
Many of the posters can be a bit prickish from time to time (myself included), but you set the bar at a new low. If you are going to be a dick at least attempt to be funny or snarky or something. I have a feeling that you fit well into my construct of s. californians, unlike most of the posters here.
Participant[quote=bluehairdave][quote=deadzone][quote=AN][quote=deadzone]Alternately, while my landlord is dealing with the plumbing and other maintenance issues, I am out surfing or playing golf. On weekends when the typical homeowner is spending all day at Home Depot, I am surfing or playing golf. Yeah you guys are right, home ownership rules and renting just kills your quality of life.[/quote]
I lived in my house for 3 years and my toilet haven’t broken once. How often does your toilet break? The biggest advantage buying have over renting is, in 30 years, all you’ll be paying for is the taxes and insurance on it while if you rent, you’ll have to deal with a much bigger expense. Dealing with rent on a fixed income won’t be fun. You’re at the mercy of your landlord. Much easier to retire with a peace of mind when you know or can predict all of your expenses. In 30 years, most of the money I save for retirement will all go to fun stuff. If I rent indefinitely, I would have to use some of the money I save for retirement for shelter. I would be scared to death if there’s any major inflation period while I’m renting and retired on fixed income.[/quote]Yes there are advantages/disadvantages to both owning and renting. But you guys with your “american dream” non-sense is tiring. For anyone who bought between 2004 and 2007, how is your dream working out for you?[/quote]
Its working out great actually! This ‘nonsense’ of the American Dream you talk about is pretty awesome!
I bought a house in 2007. Value is pretty much exactly what I bought it for and now im buying a nice big fat house with a large yard for my first child to play in. Its got a view and my current mortgage has been a great write off that I sure could use.
You see..While you have been pouting about how crappy everything is I have been working my ass off to make sure my family doesnt have to worry about where they will live in a few years or if they will be homeless. Some of us would rather “do” than to cry and whine about how everything sucks and instead we stand up and fulfill our obligations. If you have ever been really poor you might know the fear that is instinctive about becoming that poor again.
You see, America is the easiest place to make a buck and to get by and not have to worry about things like running water, power or destitute poverty. And I feel really bad if you think its such a bad place or such a lie to able to live comfortably. When really its quite simply a huge stroke of fortune to live here.
If you cant cut the mustard and it makes you feel better to knock down everyone else’s dreams as stupid. Then I guess go ahead. I hate to see you suffer more. These fake dreams as you call them are what most people might literally kill to obtain elsewhere.
Just to recap. Bought in 2007. Buying in 2011. Paid more in taxes in 2010 than im guessing you made the last 5 years from the sour postings you have made.
Self made and work from home and get to spend all day with my son and wife. Hell. the American Dream is AWESOME![/quote]
I am just going to go out and say it…your are an ass of the worst sort…a self aggrandizing, sensitive one.
Many of the posters can be a bit prickish from time to time (myself included), but you set the bar at a new low. If you are going to be a dick at least attempt to be funny or snarky or something. I have a feeling that you fit well into my construct of s. californians, unlike most of the posters here.
Participant[quote=bluehairdave][quote=deadzone][quote=AN][quote=deadzone]Alternately, while my landlord is dealing with the plumbing and other maintenance issues, I am out surfing or playing golf. On weekends when the typical homeowner is spending all day at Home Depot, I am surfing or playing golf. Yeah you guys are right, home ownership rules and renting just kills your quality of life.[/quote]
I lived in my house for 3 years and my toilet haven’t broken once. How often does your toilet break? The biggest advantage buying have over renting is, in 30 years, all you’ll be paying for is the taxes and insurance on it while if you rent, you’ll have to deal with a much bigger expense. Dealing with rent on a fixed income won’t be fun. You’re at the mercy of your landlord. Much easier to retire with a peace of mind when you know or can predict all of your expenses. In 30 years, most of the money I save for retirement will all go to fun stuff. If I rent indefinitely, I would have to use some of the money I save for retirement for shelter. I would be scared to death if there’s any major inflation period while I’m renting and retired on fixed income.[/quote]Yes there are advantages/disadvantages to both owning and renting. But you guys with your “american dream” non-sense is tiring. For anyone who bought between 2004 and 2007, how is your dream working out for you?[/quote]
Its working out great actually! This ‘nonsense’ of the American Dream you talk about is pretty awesome!
I bought a house in 2007. Value is pretty much exactly what I bought it for and now im buying a nice big fat house with a large yard for my first child to play in. Its got a view and my current mortgage has been a great write off that I sure could use.
You see..While you have been pouting about how crappy everything is I have been working my ass off to make sure my family doesnt have to worry about where they will live in a few years or if they will be homeless. Some of us would rather “do” than to cry and whine about how everything sucks and instead we stand up and fulfill our obligations. If you have ever been really poor you might know the fear that is instinctive about becoming that poor again.
You see, America is the easiest place to make a buck and to get by and not have to worry about things like running water, power or destitute poverty. And I feel really bad if you think its such a bad place or such a lie to able to live comfortably. When really its quite simply a huge stroke of fortune to live here.
If you cant cut the mustard and it makes you feel better to knock down everyone else’s dreams as stupid. Then I guess go ahead. I hate to see you suffer more. These fake dreams as you call them are what most people might literally kill to obtain elsewhere.
Just to recap. Bought in 2007. Buying in 2011. Paid more in taxes in 2010 than im guessing you made the last 5 years from the sour postings you have made.
Self made and work from home and get to spend all day with my son and wife. Hell. the American Dream is AWESOME![/quote]
I am just going to go out and say it…your are an ass of the worst sort…a self aggrandizing, sensitive one.
Many of the posters can be a bit prickish from time to time (myself included), but you set the bar at a new low. If you are going to be a dick at least attempt to be funny or snarky or something. I have a feeling that you fit well into my construct of s. californians, unlike most of the posters here.
ParticipantSorry to poke the bear, AN
I did not research exact api’s, and I don’t really care if they are within 10%. But that is just me. I was throwing LS as an example of a nice development in what I consider a more livable entertaining area.
ParticipantSorry to poke the bear, AN
I did not research exact api’s, and I don’t really care if they are within 10%. But that is just me. I was throwing LS as an example of a nice development in what I consider a more livable entertaining area.
ParticipantSorry to poke the bear, AN
I did not research exact api’s, and I don’t really care if they are within 10%. But that is just me. I was throwing LS as an example of a nice development in what I consider a more livable entertaining area.
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