[jstoesz]

Because he benefits if the federal government’s coffers are full of money to redistribute to his crony companies.

His investment portfolio reads like a who’s who of top government cheese gobblers.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44271446

Why do public employees lobby for higher taxes? Surely they will be paying more too?

[jstoesz]

Because he benefits if the federal government’s coffers are full of money to redistribute to his crony companies.

His investment portfolio reads like a who’s who of top government cheese gobblers.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44271446

Why do public employees lobby for higher taxes? Surely they will be paying more too?

[jstoesz]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jstoesz]Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said. [/quote]

Are you serious?? Perhaps you should explain precisely what you are referring to when you say “go into business”.

What, exactly, makes up the course of study for “going into business”? And are you saying that business majors are not capable of handling the level of academic studies assigned to engineering students?

Do you also believe that business majors cannot manage the academic demands of science majors?

While it is true (as I mentioned in my earlier post) that the “business admin” curriculum has been expanded AND dumbed down in many cases, the fact remains that there are some seriously rigorous courses of study in many schools. And I know many intelligent, accomplished scientists who would have been forced to withdraw from some of the classes I was required to take back in the ’70s.

So while it is tempting, and often great fun, to make blanket assumptions, it can get a bit old after a while when you’re under that blanket.[/quote]

I am not disparaging B-schools, I am sure you and many of your peers are way smarter than the majority of engineers I meet. Some of them are quite painful, and could never ever go into business. But at Cal Poly at least, there was a huge difference in the difficulty of curriculum. Maybe not at your B-school. At Cal Poly, students only moved one direction, from the Engineering F train to the business school station. And they all loved the move! It was a long standing joke. I think in life too, you can always move in a less technical direction. If you start out an engineering wizard, you can easily move into the sales route, or business admin route (too many engineers are limited in this regard by their lack of personality). But try to go back?

That is why I think it is smart to start as an engineer and move elsewhere as you go. Check back with me in 15 years to see if that was a good move.

[jstoesz]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jstoesz]Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said. [/quote]

Are you serious?? Perhaps you should explain precisely what you are referring to when you say “go into business”.

What, exactly, makes up the course of study for “going into business”? And are you saying that business majors are not capable of handling the level of academic studies assigned to engineering students?

Do you also believe that business majors cannot manage the academic demands of science majors?

While it is true (as I mentioned in my earlier post) that the “business admin” curriculum has been expanded AND dumbed down in many cases, the fact remains that there are some seriously rigorous courses of study in many schools. And I know many intelligent, accomplished scientists who would have been forced to withdraw from some of the classes I was required to take back in the ’70s.

So while it is tempting, and often great fun, to make blanket assumptions, it can get a bit old after a while when you’re under that blanket.[/quote]

I am not disparaging B-schools, I am sure you and many of your peers are way smarter than the majority of engineers I meet. Some of them are quite painful, and could never ever go into business. But at Cal Poly at least, there was a huge difference in the difficulty of curriculum. Maybe not at your B-school. At Cal Poly, students only moved one direction, from the Engineering F train to the business school station. And they all loved the move! It was a long standing joke. I think in life too, you can always move in a less technical direction. If you start out an engineering wizard, you can easily move into the sales route, or business admin route (too many engineers are limited in this regard by their lack of personality). But try to go back?

That is why I think it is smart to start as an engineer and move elsewhere as you go. Check back with me in 15 years to see if that was a good move.

[jstoesz]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jstoesz]Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said. [/quote]

Are you serious?? Perhaps you should explain precisely what you are referring to when you say “go into business”.

What, exactly, makes up the course of study for “going into business”? And are you saying that business majors are not capable of handling the level of academic studies assigned to engineering students?

Do you also believe that business majors cannot manage the academic demands of science majors?

While it is true (as I mentioned in my earlier post) that the “business admin” curriculum has been expanded AND dumbed down in many cases, the fact remains that there are some seriously rigorous courses of study in many schools. And I know many intelligent, accomplished scientists who would have been forced to withdraw from some of the classes I was required to take back in the ’70s.

So while it is tempting, and often great fun, to make blanket assumptions, it can get a bit old after a while when you’re under that blanket.[/quote]

I am not disparaging B-schools, I am sure you and many of your peers are way smarter than the majority of engineers I meet. Some of them are quite painful, and could never ever go into business. But at Cal Poly at least, there was a huge difference in the difficulty of curriculum. Maybe not at your B-school. At Cal Poly, students only moved one direction, from the Engineering F train to the business school station. And they all loved the move! It was a long standing joke. I think in life too, you can always move in a less technical direction. If you start out an engineering wizard, you can easily move into the sales route, or business admin route (too many engineers are limited in this regard by their lack of personality). But try to go back?

That is why I think it is smart to start as an engineer and move elsewhere as you go. Check back with me in 15 years to see if that was a good move.

[jstoesz]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jstoesz]Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said. [/quote]

Are you serious?? Perhaps you should explain precisely what you are referring to when you say “go into business”.

What, exactly, makes up the course of study for “going into business”? And are you saying that business majors are not capable of handling the level of academic studies assigned to engineering students?

Do you also believe that business majors cannot manage the academic demands of science majors?

While it is true (as I mentioned in my earlier post) that the “business admin” curriculum has been expanded AND dumbed down in many cases, the fact remains that there are some seriously rigorous courses of study in many schools. And I know many intelligent, accomplished scientists who would have been forced to withdraw from some of the classes I was required to take back in the ’70s.

So while it is tempting, and often great fun, to make blanket assumptions, it can get a bit old after a while when you’re under that blanket.[/quote]

I am not disparaging B-schools, I am sure you and many of your peers are way smarter than the majority of engineers I meet. Some of them are quite painful, and could never ever go into business. But at Cal Poly at least, there was a huge difference in the difficulty of curriculum. Maybe not at your B-school. At Cal Poly, students only moved one direction, from the Engineering F train to the business school station. And they all loved the move! It was a long standing joke. I think in life too, you can always move in a less technical direction. If you start out an engineering wizard, you can easily move into the sales route, or business admin route (too many engineers are limited in this regard by their lack of personality). But try to go back?

That is why I think it is smart to start as an engineer and move elsewhere as you go. Check back with me in 15 years to see if that was a good move.

[jstoesz]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jstoesz]Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said. [/quote]

Are you serious?? Perhaps you should explain precisely what you are referring to when you say “go into business”.

What, exactly, makes up the course of study for “going into business”? And are you saying that business majors are not capable of handling the level of academic studies assigned to engineering students?

Do you also believe that business majors cannot manage the academic demands of science majors?

While it is true (as I mentioned in my earlier post) that the “business admin” curriculum has been expanded AND dumbed down in many cases, the fact remains that there are some seriously rigorous courses of study in many schools. And I know many intelligent, accomplished scientists who would have been forced to withdraw from some of the classes I was required to take back in the ’70s.

So while it is tempting, and often great fun, to make blanket assumptions, it can get a bit old after a while when you’re under that blanket.[/quote]

I am not disparaging B-schools, I am sure you and many of your peers are way smarter than the majority of engineers I meet. Some of them are quite painful, and could never ever go into business. But at Cal Poly at least, there was a huge difference in the difficulty of curriculum. Maybe not at your B-school. At Cal Poly, students only moved one direction, from the Engineering F train to the business school station. And they all loved the move! It was a long standing joke. I think in life too, you can always move in a less technical direction. If you start out an engineering wizard, you can easily move into the sales route, or business admin route (too many engineers are limited in this regard by their lack of personality). But try to go back?

That is why I think it is smart to start as an engineer and move elsewhere as you go. Check back with me in 15 years to see if that was a good move.

[jstoesz]

To boast of my alma mater a bit more, I found this stat from wiki to be particularly interesting. It is probably due to a high percentage of technical majors.

“Alumni of Cal Poly average the third-highest salaries of all public university graduates in the United States according to a Forbes.com ranking.[36] Cal Poly outperformed all public universities in the nation other than U.C. Berkeley and the University of Virginia. The median annual earnings for Cal Poly graduates with 10–20 years career experience is $101,000, with the top 10% earning more than $178,000. The U.C. Berkeley and University of Virginia median/top 10% performances are $112,000/$201,000 and $103,000/$215,000 respectively.”

One other thought. If your son is more of a chemistry/medicine buff (not much of a physics lover or gear head) and really likes the idea of being employed…check out the Physician Assistant route.

My wife had a very enjoyable time at Cal Poly as a kinesiology major, and went on to Physician Assistance school (a 2 year program) at Loma Linda. She made crazy money out of starting and has found more job opportunities then any person should be allowed to have. It also is populated with women who demand a flexible schedule, so the 9-5 grind is definitely not a requirement. If I could do it over again, and could remember more than one thing at a time, I would have become a PA.

[jstoesz]

To boast of my alma mater a bit more, I found this stat from wiki to be particularly interesting. It is probably due to a high percentage of technical majors.

“Alumni of Cal Poly average the third-highest salaries of all public university graduates in the United States according to a Forbes.com ranking.[36] Cal Poly outperformed all public universities in the nation other than U.C. Berkeley and the University of Virginia. The median annual earnings for Cal Poly graduates with 10–20 years career experience is $101,000, with the top 10% earning more than $178,000. The U.C. Berkeley and University of Virginia median/top 10% performances are $112,000/$201,000 and $103,000/$215,000 respectively.”

One other thought. If your son is more of a chemistry/medicine buff (not much of a physics lover or gear head) and really likes the idea of being employed…check out the Physician Assistant route.

My wife had a very enjoyable time at Cal Poly as a kinesiology major, and went on to Physician Assistance school (a 2 year program) at Loma Linda. She made crazy money out of starting and has found more job opportunities then any person should be allowed to have. It also is populated with women who demand a flexible schedule, so the 9-5 grind is definitely not a requirement. If I could do it over again, and could remember more than one thing at a time, I would have become a PA.

[jstoesz]

To boast of my alma mater a bit more, I found this stat from wiki to be particularly interesting. It is probably due to a high percentage of technical majors.

“Alumni of Cal Poly average the third-highest salaries of all public university graduates in the United States according to a Forbes.com ranking.[36] Cal Poly outperformed all public universities in the nation other than U.C. Berkeley and the University of Virginia. The median annual earnings for Cal Poly graduates with 10–20 years career experience is $101,000, with the top 10% earning more than $178,000. The U.C. Berkeley and University of Virginia median/top 10% performances are $112,000/$201,000 and $103,000/$215,000 respectively.”

One other thought. If your son is more of a chemistry/medicine buff (not much of a physics lover or gear head) and really likes the idea of being employed…check out the Physician Assistant route.

My wife had a very enjoyable time at Cal Poly as a kinesiology major, and went on to Physician Assistance school (a 2 year program) at Loma Linda. She made crazy money out of starting and has found more job opportunities then any person should be allowed to have. It also is populated with women who demand a flexible schedule, so the 9-5 grind is definitely not a requirement. If I could do it over again, and could remember more than one thing at a time, I would have become a PA.

[jstoesz]

To boast of my alma mater a bit more, I found this stat from wiki to be particularly interesting. It is probably due to a high percentage of technical majors.

“Alumni of Cal Poly average the third-highest salaries of all public university graduates in the United States according to a Forbes.com ranking.[36] Cal Poly outperformed all public universities in the nation other than U.C. Berkeley and the University of Virginia. The median annual earnings for Cal Poly graduates with 10–20 years career experience is $101,000, with the top 10% earning more than $178,000. The U.C. Berkeley and University of Virginia median/top 10% performances are $112,000/$201,000 and $103,000/$215,000 respectively.”

One other thought. If your son is more of a chemistry/medicine buff (not much of a physics lover or gear head) and really likes the idea of being employed…check out the Physician Assistant route.

My wife had a very enjoyable time at Cal Poly as a kinesiology major, and went on to Physician Assistance school (a 2 year program) at Loma Linda. She made crazy money out of starting and has found more job opportunities then any person should be allowed to have. It also is populated with women who demand a flexible schedule, so the 9-5 grind is definitely not a requirement. If I could do it over again, and could remember more than one thing at a time, I would have become a PA.

[jstoesz]

To boast of my alma mater a bit more, I found this stat from wiki to be particularly interesting. It is probably due to a high percentage of technical majors.

“Alumni of Cal Poly average the third-highest salaries of all public university graduates in the United States according to a Forbes.com ranking.[36] Cal Poly outperformed all public universities in the nation other than U.C. Berkeley and the University of Virginia. The median annual earnings for Cal Poly graduates with 10–20 years career experience is $101,000, with the top 10% earning more than $178,000. The U.C. Berkeley and University of Virginia median/top 10% performances are $112,000/$201,000 and $103,000/$215,000 respectively.”

One other thought. If your son is more of a chemistry/medicine buff (not much of a physics lover or gear head) and really likes the idea of being employed…check out the Physician Assistant route.

My wife had a very enjoyable time at Cal Poly as a kinesiology major, and went on to Physician Assistance school (a 2 year program) at Loma Linda. She made crazy money out of starting and has found more job opportunities then any person should be allowed to have. It also is populated with women who demand a flexible schedule, so the 9-5 grind is definitely not a requirement. If I could do it over again, and could remember more than one thing at a time, I would have become a PA.

[jstoesz]

Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said.

Stay away from science…Press for applied science.

In in that vein is Cal Poly’s Motto

“learn by doing”

Or as we all joked in the ME department when I was a student there.

“Learn by you doing”

[jstoesz]

Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said.

Stay away from science…Press for applied science.

In in that vein is Cal Poly’s Motto

“learn by doing”

Or as we all joked in the ME department when I was a student there.

“Learn by you doing”

[jstoesz]

Engineers can easily go into business and sales (assuming they have the personality for it)…business majors can not go into engineering. Enough said.

Stay away from science…Press for applied science.

In in that vein is Cal Poly’s Motto

“learn by doing”

Or as we all joked in the ME department when I was a student there.

“Learn by you doing”

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