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Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I hear repeatedly about the GOP being “anti-science” and while people like Michelle Bachmann certainly fall into that camp, its also a false narrative regarding those on the right that do not.[/quote]
Please name some GOP leaders that are not “anti-science” and then tell us how much influence these folks have on the GOP party platform.
Are you referring to the presidential nomination front-runners that claim that evolution never occurred, so therefore dinosaurs never existed?
Because it’s really hard to explain all those bones we’ve been finding…
Oh … ok, we’ll change the story then. Perhaps, people and dinosaurs lived together at the same time?
I’ve seen those depictions of people with dinosaurs as pets. Hilarious! I wonder if a T-Rex can be house trained…
True, we can’t be sure, so we better teach evolution and creationism side-by-side, you know, because the scientific evidence for each is equivalent.
Or perhaps you mean the one (and-a-half) guy(s) at last night’s debate that sorta acknowledged climate change? Ooops! – did someone mention climate change?
[quote]It also omits the fact that there are many on the Left who treat AGW/Climate Change as revealed truth and “settled science” and will brook no argument on the topic. In terms of empiricism and objectivity, there is NO SUCH THING as “settled science” and never will be.[/quote]
Yeah, so we can keep using the “well we are only 99% sure, not 100% sure, excuse” to delay action on every decision. Because the issue is not “settled” and never will be.
But I’m surprised to learn there are people that are so entrenched in their opinions – so entrenched that they refuse to consider ANY evidence that may refute their position. Any of them in the GOP?
Allan, are you seriously trying to defend the GOP’s record on science?[/quote]
Yep…it is only the GOP who are anti-science.
Not carrying water for the GOP here. Just saying, the democrats will turn a blind eye when it is convenient just as quickly.
From Johah Goldberg
Why does the Left get to pick which issues are the benchmarks for “science”? Why can’t the measure of being pro-science be the question of heritability of intelligence? Or the existence of fetal pain? Or the distribution of cognitive abilities among the sexes at the extreme right tail of the bell curve? Or if that’s too upsetting, how about dividing the line between those who are pro- and anti-science along the lines of support for geoengineering? Or — coming soon — the role cosmic rays play in cloud formation? Why not make it about support for nuclear power? Or Yucca Mountain? Why not deride the idiots who oppose genetically modified crops, even when they might prevent blindness in children?
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During the Gulf oil spill, the Obama administration dishonestly claimed that its independent experts supported a drilling moratorium. They emphatically did not. The president who campaigned on basing his policies on “sound science” ignored his own hand picked experts. According to the GAO, he did something very similar when he shut down Yucca Mountain. His support for wind and solar energy, as you suggest, isn’t based on science but on faith. And that faith has failed him dramatically.
The idea that conservatives are anti-science is self-evident and self-pleasing liberal hogwash. I see no reason why conservatives should even argue the issue on their terms when it’s so clearly offered in bad faith in the first place.
Participant[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.
Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]
It all depends on which college you apply to.
Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.
Participant[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.
Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]
It all depends on which college you apply to.
Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.
Participant[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.
Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]
It all depends on which college you apply to.
Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.
Participant[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.
Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]
It all depends on which college you apply to.
Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.
Participant[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.
Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]
It all depends on which college you apply to.
Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.
ParticipantEaves I agree with much of what you said. I would like to add one thing in particular that might help flesh out what I am saying, especially in regard to Engineering kids washing out into the b-school. First, I think the B-school at Cal Poly while I believe to be fairly well regarded is probably nothing special.
There are lots of different intelligences out there. My wife is insanely smart, graduated with a 4.0 undergrad, and graduated with honors for her masters. Me, I barely breached a B average. Do I disparage her for graduating with a kinese degree and going into PA school? No way, that is something I will never be capable of. But could she pass a single midlevel engineering course, very doubtful. She is just not wired that way. For the record, she likes calculus. I could never hold more than three things in my head at a time, so I could never pass am entry bio or physiology class. As far as business majors, I think that many engineers lack the ability to being successful in business (I am guessing you agree). They are far too interested in the esoteric problems, what they deem “cool,” and lack a certain degree of vision and sociability. I am not saying business majors make up for their stupidity with personality, whip smart people exist everywhere, only their flavor of stupid tends to be different.
edit: Looks like the Cal Poly B-school is pretty good
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orfalea_College_of_Business
No warton though
ParticipantEaves I agree with much of what you said. I would like to add one thing in particular that might help flesh out what I am saying, especially in regard to Engineering kids washing out into the b-school. First, I think the B-school at Cal Poly while I believe to be fairly well regarded is probably nothing special.
There are lots of different intelligences out there. My wife is insanely smart, graduated with a 4.0 undergrad, and graduated with honors for her masters. Me, I barely breached a B average. Do I disparage her for graduating with a kinese degree and going into PA school? No way, that is something I will never be capable of. But could she pass a single midlevel engineering course, very doubtful. She is just not wired that way. For the record, she likes calculus. I could never hold more than three things in my head at a time, so I could never pass am entry bio or physiology class. As far as business majors, I think that many engineers lack the ability to being successful in business (I am guessing you agree). They are far too interested in the esoteric problems, what they deem “cool,” and lack a certain degree of vision and sociability. I am not saying business majors make up for their stupidity with personality, whip smart people exist everywhere, only their flavor of stupid tends to be different.
edit: Looks like the Cal Poly B-school is pretty good
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orfalea_College_of_Business
No warton though
ParticipantEaves I agree with much of what you said. I would like to add one thing in particular that might help flesh out what I am saying, especially in regard to Engineering kids washing out into the b-school. First, I think the B-school at Cal Poly while I believe to be fairly well regarded is probably nothing special.
There are lots of different intelligences out there. My wife is insanely smart, graduated with a 4.0 undergrad, and graduated with honors for her masters. Me, I barely breached a B average. Do I disparage her for graduating with a kinese degree and going into PA school? No way, that is something I will never be capable of. But could she pass a single midlevel engineering course, very doubtful. She is just not wired that way. For the record, she likes calculus. I could never hold more than three things in my head at a time, so I could never pass am entry bio or physiology class. As far as business majors, I think that many engineers lack the ability to being successful in business (I am guessing you agree). They are far too interested in the esoteric problems, what they deem “cool,” and lack a certain degree of vision and sociability. I am not saying business majors make up for their stupidity with personality, whip smart people exist everywhere, only their flavor of stupid tends to be different.
edit: Looks like the Cal Poly B-school is pretty good
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orfalea_College_of_Business
No warton though
ParticipantEaves I agree with much of what you said. I would like to add one thing in particular that might help flesh out what I am saying, especially in regard to Engineering kids washing out into the b-school. First, I think the B-school at Cal Poly while I believe to be fairly well regarded is probably nothing special.
There are lots of different intelligences out there. My wife is insanely smart, graduated with a 4.0 undergrad, and graduated with honors for her masters. Me, I barely breached a B average. Do I disparage her for graduating with a kinese degree and going into PA school? No way, that is something I will never be capable of. But could she pass a single midlevel engineering course, very doubtful. She is just not wired that way. For the record, she likes calculus. I could never hold more than three things in my head at a time, so I could never pass am entry bio or physiology class. As far as business majors, I think that many engineers lack the ability to being successful in business (I am guessing you agree). They are far too interested in the esoteric problems, what they deem “cool,” and lack a certain degree of vision and sociability. I am not saying business majors make up for their stupidity with personality, whip smart people exist everywhere, only their flavor of stupid tends to be different.
edit: Looks like the Cal Poly B-school is pretty good
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orfalea_College_of_Business
No warton though
ParticipantEaves I agree with much of what you said. I would like to add one thing in particular that might help flesh out what I am saying, especially in regard to Engineering kids washing out into the b-school. First, I think the B-school at Cal Poly while I believe to be fairly well regarded is probably nothing special.
There are lots of different intelligences out there. My wife is insanely smart, graduated with a 4.0 undergrad, and graduated with honors for her masters. Me, I barely breached a B average. Do I disparage her for graduating with a kinese degree and going into PA school? No way, that is something I will never be capable of. But could she pass a single midlevel engineering course, very doubtful. She is just not wired that way. For the record, she likes calculus. I could never hold more than three things in my head at a time, so I could never pass am entry bio or physiology class. As far as business majors, I think that many engineers lack the ability to being successful in business (I am guessing you agree). They are far too interested in the esoteric problems, what they deem “cool,” and lack a certain degree of vision and sociability. I am not saying business majors make up for their stupidity with personality, whip smart people exist everywhere, only their flavor of stupid tends to be different.
edit: Looks like the Cal Poly B-school is pretty good
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orfalea_College_of_Business
No warton though
ParticipantBecause he benefits if the federal government’s coffers are full of money to redistribute to his crony companies.
His investment portfolio reads like a who’s who of top government cheese gobblers.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44271446
Why do public employees lobby for higher taxes? Surely they will be paying more too?
ParticipantBecause he benefits if the federal government’s coffers are full of money to redistribute to his crony companies.
His investment portfolio reads like a who’s who of top government cheese gobblers.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44271446
Why do public employees lobby for higher taxes? Surely they will be paying more too?
ParticipantBecause he benefits if the federal government’s coffers are full of money to redistribute to his crony companies.
His investment portfolio reads like a who’s who of top government cheese gobblers.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44271446
Why do public employees lobby for higher taxes? Surely they will be paying more too?
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