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October 31, 2011 at 1:14 PM in reply to: Help! Need advice on unexciting but essential purchase #731743jstoeszParticipant
read up on how Argentina’s home prices fared through their last serious bout with hyper-inflation.
Things are far from a sure bet.
jstoeszParticipant[quote=bob2007]jstoesz, value is obviously varies by person, but those houses you referenced are WAY WAY less than what I had expected. Even if you say 2000 sq ft in stead of 1500, its on a tiny lot with ONE bathroom. I’ve had apartments with two. I am from the midwest, but its been a long time. I would have thought you trade-off would have been more like 2-3 acres, 3000 to 4000 sq ft (since your living inside half the year). Out in the woods or on a lake (lots of them in MN), etc.
Lets not even get into the fact is going on 100 years old and probably has heating issues during the 6+ month of cold weather. If you even have to refer to “finished basement” as part of a necessary living space instead of a bonus/fun room to have, your way outside of my expectations. Holy cr*p dude, you wife must be dying out there.
I’m not saying don’t move out of SD. In fact, I think that is the right decision for many. I’m just saying that from your posts it would appear YOUR reasons are financial, and the numbers/value would not add up for many.[/quote]
Omaha, is probably more in line with your expectations.
Now if you want to buy a nice place outside of the city on acreage, I am sure you can find it for less than a couple hundred. I pointed at houses in one of the best parts of the city, but SW Minneapolis is not cheap for the Midwest.
For the record, the only reason why my wife is considering s. california is for love of her family and friends. She too has a hard time with the general culture, price, and pace of the place (amongst other things). Yes I like aliteration.
jstoeszParticipantTownes Van Zandt, but he is dead now…
Prompts to nmh though, a band you have sit with for awhile before you can even grow accustomed to them.
jstoeszParticipanttug, thanks for your post.
I know we will be happy wherever we are. Hell, I was not thrilled to move to SD the first time. Once, I figured out that I could live on a sailboat, I was onboard (so to speak). Point is, you can always carve out your niche that suits you wherever you live and be content with whatever life gives you.
jstoeszParticipantno, where were just down there in SD last weekend. I was definitely referring to the s. california species of rat. That thread was intended to be more of a joke though. I wore some pretty dumb looking clothes myself.
jstoeszParticipantSierra foothills was neutral territory with great recreation. We moved here to play and get some living perspective. We are now poised to move in the next year or two and we have to decide what city is best.
You can’t just take a s. Californian straight to mn, the culture and weather shock can be lethal. At least lethal to a wife’s happiness.
jstoeszParticipantone more data point.
This is the house my family owned for 20 years, and it recently traded hands.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5350-Grand-Ave-S-Minneapolis-MN-55419/1830060_zpid/
What is that 140 bucks a sq ft…not including the basement…
Again as good a neighborhood as mission hills, but it does not border the parkway just a few houses off it.
jstoeszParticipantYeah, I don’t know why it was listed so small, when I saw it before it had 2000+ sq ft.
so I pulled up another site that listed it for 2138 sq ft, maybe that is closer to the size you all would expect for a house that expensive.
I just ask myself, what would this house cost in mission hills? This is actually a better more walkable neighborhood than mission hills (its on the parkway, a 50 mile loop of dedicated biking trails), but it is the closest I can get in SD for comparison.
It feels most like the wooded area, but that is not a fair comparison because of the ocean and all that. I think mission hills is a more than fair comparison. Any takers. A .25 acre lot with a beautifully kept house complete with hot tub and sauna. That has to cost more than a million.
BG, I understand you have not been to this neighborhood, but the houses you comp’ed are in terrible areas by comparison. This is more like having balboa across your lawn. The one in PL, I actually have been to, I think I saw homeless people sleeping in the back yard, not OWSers genuine homeless people. My back would get tired from picking up the empty cobras cans. Great price though, if midway ever cleans up they will do well.
jstoeszParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]Let me get this straight? I am supposed to covet a 3 beds, 1 bath, 1,512 square feet house built in 1928 for $520K in Minnesota? Really? Shouldnt that be closer to $200K?[/quote]
the sq footage does not include the finished basement. But I understand your disagreement.
btw…you are freaking quick. Props to you!
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jstoeszParticipantI am resurrecting this old thread…
MN is looking better by the day. The housing costs less than half, and it is making it sound even more attractive.
The fact is, in other states you can live in the neighborhoods you like, and you can afford them.
Freak, my brother is about to buy a townhome in eagan (suburb of minneapolis) and I could practically put the place on my credit card.
Check out this place. We were looking at this place, before it sold. It is one of the best neighborhoods in the city.
This is what you get for 500k in Minneapolis. A freaking sauna and the rest. Granted you will need it in MN.
One other thought. MN isn’t even cheap compared to many states, it is reasonable but not cheap. I know many CA’ians can’t put MN on a map, but there is many great places outside of the bubble.
SD is a lost cause, there are too many people who will spend too much of their disposable income on crap. The city is doomed, because the average person is financially illiterate. Detroit anyone?
move along.
October 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM in reply to: End Collective Bargaining with Public Unions in CA #731457jstoeszParticipant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]I have not gotten a season pass yet. I am kind of hoping to maximize the backcountry skiing, and I want to go to some different resorts this winter.
As far as the great MN SD debate, I will link you to our previous thread. If I think about it too much, I get depressed.
http://piggington.com/why_i_am_leaving_san_diego
[/quote]jstoesz, the promotion for the “Epic Pass” is over. I just checked and its back up to $669.
http://www.snow.com/epic-pass/passes/epic-pass.aspx
For about a week this month, they were running a +/- $400, IIRC “promotion” for it – just a “sign of the times.” (I threw away the msg.)
This pass would have enabled you to access Heavenly, Northstar and five world-class resorts in CO with no blackout dates! All have expensive to VERY expensive day lift tix so it is a tremendous bargain. I didn’t get one because I’m not in a position to enjoy it this winter. But if I knew I could go skiing 5+ days this season, I would have.
Don’t be depressed! You’re in an awesome position enjoy the h@ll out of Lake Tahoe this winter again (even for the day), while the rest of us poor slugs toiling down here in the “glorified desert” have to plan expensive overnights and 2 full days driving to enjoy it at all!
Remember that your “compadres” in MN are stocking up on Bic lighters about now (among other provisions) – so they can “melt” open their stuck screen doors while holding a bag of groceries with the other arm. :=0[/quote]
I bought that pass last year, but I ended up going to sierra at tahoe 90% of the time. I want to get out more. I didn’t ski at squaw or mammoth once. I want to try different resorts, and I got too avalanche cautious cause I could always hit the resort.
For the record, nobody melts crap with a bic…you just pull hard.
Granted I have know a couple people who have pulled the handle right off their door.
jstoeszParticipantbarn,
spot on.
October 26, 2011 at 11:17 PM in reply to: End Collective Bargaining with Public Unions in CA #731385jstoeszParticipant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz] . . . BTW, to all who doubt moving away. MN is winning the day in my family! WIth a few more long drives to Southern California (the last one did not go well), We will never live there again! But I will miss the sailing.[/quote]
Gee, jstoesz, I’m sorry to hear your “north/south” road trips haven’t been “going well.” (I make several “south/north” road trips per year and look forward to them …always!) I sincerely hope you were able to take advantage of the recently heavily discounted “season tix” at Lake Tahoe for the 11/12 skiing season (to take your mind off things). Of course, using that pass would allow you to mingle with all those “wayward, loser young people” snowboarding “bump experts” in “baggy pants up to their nipples” that you would have to contend with on the “slopes,” lol.
see: http://piggington.com/rats
If you haven’t gotten your discounted season ticket yet, I believe it may be past time (check on this).
jstoesz, can you please explain to us “stationary Piggs” here what it was you were complaining about, again? I need a “refresher.” :=)[/quote]
I have not gotten a season pass yet. I am kind of hoping to maximize the backcountry skiing, and I want to go to some different resorts this winter.
As far as the great MN SD debate, I will link you to our previous thread. If I think about it too much, I get depressed.
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