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[quote=gandalf]No, no. The wealthy of this generation are shirking, not paying their fair share. That’s absolutely true. Not advocating socialism or wealth redistribution.

Think. What constitutes income? Everybody knows get a good accountant and you’ll pay less than in taxes than the average sucker from the middle class.

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The bottom 50% of wage earner pay only 3% of the federal income taxes. The middle class, lower class doesn’t pay any tax other then SS.

The top 1% of wage earners. I think that is above $200k or so pay 40% of the taxes.

That is the problem with our system now. Not enough people share in the cost of government. Since half the people don’t pay tax why should they care what the government spends? What happens is we have a system ran by the special interests and Government has become its own special interest.

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[quote=gandalf]No, no. The wealthy of this generation are shirking, not paying their fair share. That’s absolutely true. Not advocating socialism or wealth redistribution.

Think. What constitutes income? Everybody knows get a good accountant and you’ll pay less than in taxes than the average sucker from the middle class.

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The bottom 50% of wage earner pay only 3% of the federal income taxes. The middle class, lower class doesn’t pay any tax other then SS.

The top 1% of wage earners. I think that is above $200k or so pay 40% of the taxes.

That is the problem with our system now. Not enough people share in the cost of government. Since half the people don’t pay tax why should they care what the government spends? What happens is we have a system ran by the special interests and Government has become its own special interest.

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]No, no. The wealthy of this generation are shirking, not paying their fair share. That’s absolutely true. Not advocating socialism or wealth redistribution.

Think. What constitutes income? Everybody knows get a good accountant and you’ll pay less than in taxes than the average sucker from the middle class.

[/quote]

The bottom 50% of wage earner pay only 3% of the federal income taxes. The middle class, lower class doesn’t pay any tax other then SS.

The top 1% of wage earners. I think that is above $200k or so pay 40% of the taxes.

That is the problem with our system now. Not enough people share in the cost of government. Since half the people don’t pay tax why should they care what the government spends? What happens is we have a system ran by the special interests and Government has become its own special interest.

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]No, no. The wealthy of this generation are shirking, not paying their fair share. That’s absolutely true. Not advocating socialism or wealth redistribution.

Think. What constitutes income? Everybody knows get a good accountant and you’ll pay less than in taxes than the average sucker from the middle class.

[/quote]

The bottom 50% of wage earner pay only 3% of the federal income taxes. The middle class, lower class doesn’t pay any tax other then SS.

The top 1% of wage earners. I think that is above $200k or so pay 40% of the taxes.

That is the problem with our system now. Not enough people share in the cost of government. Since half the people don’t pay tax why should they care what the government spends? What happens is we have a system ran by the special interests and Government has become its own special interest.

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]No, no. The wealthy of this generation are shirking, not paying their fair share. That’s absolutely true. Not advocating socialism or wealth redistribution.

Think. What constitutes income? Everybody knows get a good accountant and you’ll pay less than in taxes than the average sucker from the middle class.

[/quote]

The bottom 50% of wage earner pay only 3% of the federal income taxes. The middle class, lower class doesn’t pay any tax other then SS.

The top 1% of wage earners. I think that is above $200k or so pay 40% of the taxes.

That is the problem with our system now. Not enough people share in the cost of government. Since half the people don’t pay tax why should they care what the government spends? What happens is we have a system ran by the special interests and Government has become its own special interest.

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[quote=blue_sky]Let me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?

Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.[/quote]

My guess is no one considered it. I mean why would it be questioned? He seems to be a honest guy, he said he was from Hawaii etc. Why even question it??

The reason its being questioned is because he, for some reason, felt compelled to post his birth certificate on the web. Why would a person confident in his citizenship even feel obliged to do that???

He has a way out but he refuses to take it. The way out being to request that Hawaii furnish him a certified copy of his bc yet he refuses to. Why? its strange. If I were him I would get the orginal and rub peoples noses in it.

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[quote=blue_sky]Let me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?

Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.[/quote]

My guess is no one considered it. I mean why would it be questioned? He seems to be a honest guy, he said he was from Hawaii etc. Why even question it??

The reason its being questioned is because he, for some reason, felt compelled to post his birth certificate on the web. Why would a person confident in his citizenship even feel obliged to do that???

He has a way out but he refuses to take it. The way out being to request that Hawaii furnish him a certified copy of his bc yet he refuses to. Why? its strange. If I were him I would get the orginal and rub peoples noses in it.

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[quote=blue_sky]Let me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?

Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.[/quote]

My guess is no one considered it. I mean why would it be questioned? He seems to be a honest guy, he said he was from Hawaii etc. Why even question it??

The reason its being questioned is because he, for some reason, felt compelled to post his birth certificate on the web. Why would a person confident in his citizenship even feel obliged to do that???

He has a way out but he refuses to take it. The way out being to request that Hawaii furnish him a certified copy of his bc yet he refuses to. Why? its strange. If I were him I would get the orginal and rub peoples noses in it.

[jficquette]

[quote=blue_sky]Let me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?

Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.[/quote]

My guess is no one considered it. I mean why would it be questioned? He seems to be a honest guy, he said he was from Hawaii etc. Why even question it??

The reason its being questioned is because he, for some reason, felt compelled to post his birth certificate on the web. Why would a person confident in his citizenship even feel obliged to do that???

He has a way out but he refuses to take it. The way out being to request that Hawaii furnish him a certified copy of his bc yet he refuses to. Why? its strange. If I were him I would get the orginal and rub peoples noses in it.

[jficquette]

[quote=blue_sky]Let me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?

Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.[/quote]

My guess is no one considered it. I mean why would it be questioned? He seems to be a honest guy, he said he was from Hawaii etc. Why even question it??

The reason its being questioned is because he, for some reason, felt compelled to post his birth certificate on the web. Why would a person confident in his citizenship even feel obliged to do that???

He has a way out but he refuses to take it. The way out being to request that Hawaii furnish him a certified copy of his bc yet he refuses to. Why? its strange. If I were him I would get the orginal and rub peoples noses in it.

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[quote=asianautica][quote=jficquette]
125k is about 3 times the median. That is wealthy by any standards.
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Well, then you support the idea of lowering the bar for increasing taxes for single filer to $125k from $200k that Obama set. All I can say is, good luck to expensive cities like SF, NYC, etc. in trying to find workers to relocate there if Obama hold the same view of $125k/yr/person as wealthy and increase taxes for them.[/quote]

A vote for Obama is a vote for much higher taxes. I hope everyone understands that and if that is important to them then they need to vote for McCain.

It just shows how clueless he is about the problems facing the country. Our main problem is the bloodsucking government We need less taxes less government not more.

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[quote=asianautica][quote=jficquette]
125k is about 3 times the median. That is wealthy by any standards.
[/quote]
Well, then you support the idea of lowering the bar for increasing taxes for single filer to $125k from $200k that Obama set. All I can say is, good luck to expensive cities like SF, NYC, etc. in trying to find workers to relocate there if Obama hold the same view of $125k/yr/person as wealthy and increase taxes for them.[/quote]

A vote for Obama is a vote for much higher taxes. I hope everyone understands that and if that is important to them then they need to vote for McCain.

It just shows how clueless he is about the problems facing the country. Our main problem is the bloodsucking government We need less taxes less government not more.

[jficquette]

[quote=asianautica][quote=jficquette]
125k is about 3 times the median. That is wealthy by any standards.
[/quote]
Well, then you support the idea of lowering the bar for increasing taxes for single filer to $125k from $200k that Obama set. All I can say is, good luck to expensive cities like SF, NYC, etc. in trying to find workers to relocate there if Obama hold the same view of $125k/yr/person as wealthy and increase taxes for them.[/quote]

A vote for Obama is a vote for much higher taxes. I hope everyone understands that and if that is important to them then they need to vote for McCain.

It just shows how clueless he is about the problems facing the country. Our main problem is the bloodsucking government We need less taxes less government not more.

[jficquette]

[quote=asianautica][quote=jficquette]
125k is about 3 times the median. That is wealthy by any standards.
[/quote]
Well, then you support the idea of lowering the bar for increasing taxes for single filer to $125k from $200k that Obama set. All I can say is, good luck to expensive cities like SF, NYC, etc. in trying to find workers to relocate there if Obama hold the same view of $125k/yr/person as wealthy and increase taxes for them.[/quote]

A vote for Obama is a vote for much higher taxes. I hope everyone understands that and if that is important to them then they need to vote for McCain.

It just shows how clueless he is about the problems facing the country. Our main problem is the bloodsucking government We need less taxes less government not more.

[jficquette]

[quote=asianautica][quote=jficquette]
125k is about 3 times the median. That is wealthy by any standards.
[/quote]
Well, then you support the idea of lowering the bar for increasing taxes for single filer to $125k from $200k that Obama set. All I can say is, good luck to expensive cities like SF, NYC, etc. in trying to find workers to relocate there if Obama hold the same view of $125k/yr/person as wealthy and increase taxes for them.[/quote]

A vote for Obama is a vote for much higher taxes. I hope everyone understands that and if that is important to them then they need to vote for McCain.

It just shows how clueless he is about the problems facing the country. Our main problem is the bloodsucking government We need less taxes less government not more.

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