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jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
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I read the article you cited, John, and you’re only bolstering my point that you and so many others will believe what they read on the internet regardless of its easy disprovability.
I was watching a documentary on the hippie movement the other day, and towards the end Steve Jobs was talking (in the ’70s) about how personal computers will take so much power out of the hands of “the man” and give it to the people. And that did, in some ways, come to pass. But along with it came a whole new era of ignorance and hysteria.
I think most of the (very large) segment of the population that eschews skepticism would, prior to their internet access, simply not get involved too much in politics. They were busy getting their palms read or looking at their horoscopes or attending seances. But political operatives have learned that they can spoon feed easy-to-access, easy-to-read, bite-sized chunks of bull slop to these people and get them to vote for (or against) the candidates they like (or don’t like).
John, I think you should stand up to these people who are pulling the wool over your eyes. Don’t let them make a fool of you. [/quote]
Who is pulling wool over whose eyes?? A guy who has painstakenly researched a matter or a guy who refuses to furnish conclusive evidence putting the matter to rest.
Obama is treating the entire matter like it doesn’t exist. He has no choice because he can’t address it without the documentation.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
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I read the article you cited, John, and you’re only bolstering my point that you and so many others will believe what they read on the internet regardless of its easy disprovability.
I was watching a documentary on the hippie movement the other day, and towards the end Steve Jobs was talking (in the ’70s) about how personal computers will take so much power out of the hands of “the man” and give it to the people. And that did, in some ways, come to pass. But along with it came a whole new era of ignorance and hysteria.
I think most of the (very large) segment of the population that eschews skepticism would, prior to their internet access, simply not get involved too much in politics. They were busy getting their palms read or looking at their horoscopes or attending seances. But political operatives have learned that they can spoon feed easy-to-access, easy-to-read, bite-sized chunks of bull slop to these people and get them to vote for (or against) the candidates they like (or don’t like).
John, I think you should stand up to these people who are pulling the wool over your eyes. Don’t let them make a fool of you. [/quote]
Who is pulling wool over whose eyes?? A guy who has painstakenly researched a matter or a guy who refuses to furnish conclusive evidence putting the matter to rest.
Obama is treating the entire matter like it doesn’t exist. He has no choice because he can’t address it without the documentation.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
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I read the article you cited, John, and you’re only bolstering my point that you and so many others will believe what they read on the internet regardless of its easy disprovability.
I was watching a documentary on the hippie movement the other day, and towards the end Steve Jobs was talking (in the ’70s) about how personal computers will take so much power out of the hands of “the man” and give it to the people. And that did, in some ways, come to pass. But along with it came a whole new era of ignorance and hysteria.
I think most of the (very large) segment of the population that eschews skepticism would, prior to their internet access, simply not get involved too much in politics. They were busy getting their palms read or looking at their horoscopes or attending seances. But political operatives have learned that they can spoon feed easy-to-access, easy-to-read, bite-sized chunks of bull slop to these people and get them to vote for (or against) the candidates they like (or don’t like).
John, I think you should stand up to these people who are pulling the wool over your eyes. Don’t let them make a fool of you. [/quote]
Who is pulling wool over whose eyes?? A guy who has painstakenly researched a matter or a guy who refuses to furnish conclusive evidence putting the matter to rest.
Obama is treating the entire matter like it doesn’t exist. He has no choice because he can’t address it without the documentation.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
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I read the article you cited, John, and you’re only bolstering my point that you and so many others will believe what they read on the internet regardless of its easy disprovability.
I was watching a documentary on the hippie movement the other day, and towards the end Steve Jobs was talking (in the ’70s) about how personal computers will take so much power out of the hands of “the man” and give it to the people. And that did, in some ways, come to pass. But along with it came a whole new era of ignorance and hysteria.
I think most of the (very large) segment of the population that eschews skepticism would, prior to their internet access, simply not get involved too much in politics. They were busy getting their palms read or looking at their horoscopes or attending seances. But political operatives have learned that they can spoon feed easy-to-access, easy-to-read, bite-sized chunks of bull slop to these people and get them to vote for (or against) the candidates they like (or don’t like).
John, I think you should stand up to these people who are pulling the wool over your eyes. Don’t let them make a fool of you. [/quote]
Who is pulling wool over whose eyes?? A guy who has painstakenly researched a matter or a guy who refuses to furnish conclusive evidence putting the matter to rest.
Obama is treating the entire matter like it doesn’t exist. He has no choice because he can’t address it without the documentation.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I agree with Aecetia. Putin is former KGB, and is dedicated to returning Russia to it’s former glory. Russia’s intimidation has now moved beyond saber rattling into direct intervention.
The Europeans are entirely too dependent on Russian fuel and afraid of a resurgent “bear” in their backyard to do much of anything.
God love McCain, but I don’t think he has much of solution beyond sending the USAF in to try and interdict the Russians as they move their big iron into Georgia.
And, make no mistake, Putin has the stones to play a high-speed game of chicken with us and NATO. This the potential to get real ugly and spread into a wider war.[/quote]
What do you think we should do about Georgia?? As far as I am concerned, Russia can have at it. I am not interested in risking war over former Soviet Territory.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I agree with Aecetia. Putin is former KGB, and is dedicated to returning Russia to it’s former glory. Russia’s intimidation has now moved beyond saber rattling into direct intervention.
The Europeans are entirely too dependent on Russian fuel and afraid of a resurgent “bear” in their backyard to do much of anything.
God love McCain, but I don’t think he has much of solution beyond sending the USAF in to try and interdict the Russians as they move their big iron into Georgia.
And, make no mistake, Putin has the stones to play a high-speed game of chicken with us and NATO. This the potential to get real ugly and spread into a wider war.[/quote]
What do you think we should do about Georgia?? As far as I am concerned, Russia can have at it. I am not interested in risking war over former Soviet Territory.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I agree with Aecetia. Putin is former KGB, and is dedicated to returning Russia to it’s former glory. Russia’s intimidation has now moved beyond saber rattling into direct intervention.
The Europeans are entirely too dependent on Russian fuel and afraid of a resurgent “bear” in their backyard to do much of anything.
God love McCain, but I don’t think he has much of solution beyond sending the USAF in to try and interdict the Russians as they move their big iron into Georgia.
And, make no mistake, Putin has the stones to play a high-speed game of chicken with us and NATO. This the potential to get real ugly and spread into a wider war.[/quote]
What do you think we should do about Georgia?? As far as I am concerned, Russia can have at it. I am not interested in risking war over former Soviet Territory.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I agree with Aecetia. Putin is former KGB, and is dedicated to returning Russia to it’s former glory. Russia’s intimidation has now moved beyond saber rattling into direct intervention.
The Europeans are entirely too dependent on Russian fuel and afraid of a resurgent “bear” in their backyard to do much of anything.
God love McCain, but I don’t think he has much of solution beyond sending the USAF in to try and interdict the Russians as they move their big iron into Georgia.
And, make no mistake, Putin has the stones to play a high-speed game of chicken with us and NATO. This the potential to get real ugly and spread into a wider war.[/quote]
What do you think we should do about Georgia?? As far as I am concerned, Russia can have at it. I am not interested in risking war over former Soviet Territory.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I agree with Aecetia. Putin is former KGB, and is dedicated to returning Russia to it’s former glory. Russia’s intimidation has now moved beyond saber rattling into direct intervention.
The Europeans are entirely too dependent on Russian fuel and afraid of a resurgent “bear” in their backyard to do much of anything.
God love McCain, but I don’t think he has much of solution beyond sending the USAF in to try and interdict the Russians as they move their big iron into Georgia.
And, make no mistake, Putin has the stones to play a high-speed game of chicken with us and NATO. This the potential to get real ugly and spread into a wider war.[/quote]
What do you think we should do about Georgia?? As far as I am concerned, Russia can have at it. I am not interested in risking war over former Soviet Territory.
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?[/quote]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.
If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?[/quote]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.
If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?[/quote]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.
If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?[/quote]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.
If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
jficquette
Participant[quote=zk][quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?[/quote]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.
If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
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