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jficquette
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John[/quote]
John: So, no? You never served in the military and/or law enforcement? What about team sports, like football or baseball?[/quote]
Football in jr high, high school.
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John[/quote]
John: So, no? You never served in the military and/or law enforcement? What about team sports, like football or baseball?[/quote]
Football in jr high, high school.
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John[/quote]
John: So, no? You never served in the military and/or law enforcement? What about team sports, like football or baseball?[/quote]
Football in jr high, high school.
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John[/quote]
John: So, no? You never served in the military and/or law enforcement? What about team sports, like football or baseball?[/quote]
Football in jr high, high school.
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
[/quote]John, I don’t think you read CAR’s post above completely. Firemen do spend up to 24hrs at a stretch in the firehouse, and they cook/eat as a team, using the kitchen in the firehouse to do so. Therefore, they provision accordingly, which means shopping, which means they bring the fire truck shopping. I’m not sure what point you’re making here, or if you’re just nit-picking. It makes perfect sense and it isn’t a waste of taxpayer dollars, given their operating requirements.
Out of curiosity, have ever served in the military or law enforcement, and have you participated in a team sport? Like I said, just curious.[/quote]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.
I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
[/quote]John, I don’t think you read CAR’s post above completely. Firemen do spend up to 24hrs at a stretch in the firehouse, and they cook/eat as a team, using the kitchen in the firehouse to do so. Therefore, they provision accordingly, which means shopping, which means they bring the fire truck shopping. I’m not sure what point you’re making here, or if you’re just nit-picking. It makes perfect sense and it isn’t a waste of taxpayer dollars, given their operating requirements.
Out of curiosity, have ever served in the military or law enforcement, and have you participated in a team sport? Like I said, just curious.[/quote]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.
I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
[/quote]John, I don’t think you read CAR’s post above completely. Firemen do spend up to 24hrs at a stretch in the firehouse, and they cook/eat as a team, using the kitchen in the firehouse to do so. Therefore, they provision accordingly, which means shopping, which means they bring the fire truck shopping. I’m not sure what point you’re making here, or if you’re just nit-picking. It makes perfect sense and it isn’t a waste of taxpayer dollars, given their operating requirements.
Out of curiosity, have ever served in the military or law enforcement, and have you participated in a team sport? Like I said, just curious.[/quote]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.
I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
[/quote]John, I don’t think you read CAR’s post above completely. Firemen do spend up to 24hrs at a stretch in the firehouse, and they cook/eat as a team, using the kitchen in the firehouse to do so. Therefore, they provision accordingly, which means shopping, which means they bring the fire truck shopping. I’m not sure what point you’re making here, or if you’re just nit-picking. It makes perfect sense and it isn’t a waste of taxpayer dollars, given their operating requirements.
Out of curiosity, have ever served in the military or law enforcement, and have you participated in a team sport? Like I said, just curious.[/quote]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.
I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jficquette]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
[/quote]John, I don’t think you read CAR’s post above completely. Firemen do spend up to 24hrs at a stretch in the firehouse, and they cook/eat as a team, using the kitchen in the firehouse to do so. Therefore, they provision accordingly, which means shopping, which means they bring the fire truck shopping. I’m not sure what point you’re making here, or if you’re just nit-picking. It makes perfect sense and it isn’t a waste of taxpayer dollars, given their operating requirements.
Out of curiosity, have ever served in the military or law enforcement, and have you participated in a team sport? Like I said, just curious.[/quote]
If I had been in Law Enforcement I wouldn’t be complaining about how over paid they are lol.
I just resent using a vehicle that costs approx $10 a mile to operate being used for personal errands.
No reason why it has to be that way. Can’t they try and be efficient at something?
John
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette]CA Renter,
Comparing pay for mercenaries in Iraq to public safety employees in California is not apples and apples. Also the military doesn’t retire at full pay. Quite frankly public safety people probably make more money than the mercenaries when you include 30-40 years on pension.
Concerning the firemen who tool around in fire trucks to run personal errands should probably not be allowed to leave the firehouse while they are on duty.
John[/quote]
Public safety personnel don’t retire at full pay, either. Mind you, public safety personnel weren’t complaining about their pensions before the pension boost, either (not anyone I’ve ever met). That was a disaster from the start, and as I’ve said many times before, it was not the boots-on-the-ground workers who were asking for it. They’re the ones taking all the flak for it now, though.
As to the “tooling around in the fire engines” how do you think firefighters get to calls? The fire station isn’t what goes on calls; the fire engines/trucks do. Firefighters are tied to the fire engines/trucks (and their zones), not the fire station.
Besides, how do you think groceries get to the fire stations when firefighters often 24+ hours at a stretch? Firefighters work 24 or even 120 hours (not an unusual overtime situation) at a time. You don’t think they should eat? Or, perhaps you think the city should hire additional workers who will keep the fire stations supplied all the time?
Just want to clarify…firefighters do not “run personal errands” while on duty. That’s absolutely not allowed. If you see them in the store, they are ON DUTY. If a call comes in, the groceries are dropped and they run to the call.[/quote]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.
For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
A lawyer friend of mine has a son who just retired as a sherrif deputy. He is making MORE then his salary since he loaded it up with overtime before he left.
John
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette]CA Renter,
Comparing pay for mercenaries in Iraq to public safety employees in California is not apples and apples. Also the military doesn’t retire at full pay. Quite frankly public safety people probably make more money than the mercenaries when you include 30-40 years on pension.
Concerning the firemen who tool around in fire trucks to run personal errands should probably not be allowed to leave the firehouse while they are on duty.
John[/quote]
Public safety personnel don’t retire at full pay, either. Mind you, public safety personnel weren’t complaining about their pensions before the pension boost, either (not anyone I’ve ever met). That was a disaster from the start, and as I’ve said many times before, it was not the boots-on-the-ground workers who were asking for it. They’re the ones taking all the flak for it now, though.
As to the “tooling around in the fire engines” how do you think firefighters get to calls? The fire station isn’t what goes on calls; the fire engines/trucks do. Firefighters are tied to the fire engines/trucks (and their zones), not the fire station.
Besides, how do you think groceries get to the fire stations when firefighters often 24+ hours at a stretch? Firefighters work 24 or even 120 hours (not an unusual overtime situation) at a time. You don’t think they should eat? Or, perhaps you think the city should hire additional workers who will keep the fire stations supplied all the time?
Just want to clarify…firefighters do not “run personal errands” while on duty. That’s absolutely not allowed. If you see them in the store, they are ON DUTY. If a call comes in, the groceries are dropped and they run to the call.[/quote]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.
For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
A lawyer friend of mine has a son who just retired as a sherrif deputy. He is making MORE then his salary since he loaded it up with overtime before he left.
John
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette]CA Renter,
Comparing pay for mercenaries in Iraq to public safety employees in California is not apples and apples. Also the military doesn’t retire at full pay. Quite frankly public safety people probably make more money than the mercenaries when you include 30-40 years on pension.
Concerning the firemen who tool around in fire trucks to run personal errands should probably not be allowed to leave the firehouse while they are on duty.
John[/quote]
Public safety personnel don’t retire at full pay, either. Mind you, public safety personnel weren’t complaining about their pensions before the pension boost, either (not anyone I’ve ever met). That was a disaster from the start, and as I’ve said many times before, it was not the boots-on-the-ground workers who were asking for it. They’re the ones taking all the flak for it now, though.
As to the “tooling around in the fire engines” how do you think firefighters get to calls? The fire station isn’t what goes on calls; the fire engines/trucks do. Firefighters are tied to the fire engines/trucks (and their zones), not the fire station.
Besides, how do you think groceries get to the fire stations when firefighters often 24+ hours at a stretch? Firefighters work 24 or even 120 hours (not an unusual overtime situation) at a time. You don’t think they should eat? Or, perhaps you think the city should hire additional workers who will keep the fire stations supplied all the time?
Just want to clarify…firefighters do not “run personal errands” while on duty. That’s absolutely not allowed. If you see them in the store, they are ON DUTY. If a call comes in, the groceries are dropped and they run to the call.[/quote]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.
For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
A lawyer friend of mine has a son who just retired as a sherrif deputy. He is making MORE then his salary since he loaded it up with overtime before he left.
John
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette]CA Renter,
Comparing pay for mercenaries in Iraq to public safety employees in California is not apples and apples. Also the military doesn’t retire at full pay. Quite frankly public safety people probably make more money than the mercenaries when you include 30-40 years on pension.
Concerning the firemen who tool around in fire trucks to run personal errands should probably not be allowed to leave the firehouse while they are on duty.
John[/quote]
Public safety personnel don’t retire at full pay, either. Mind you, public safety personnel weren’t complaining about their pensions before the pension boost, either (not anyone I’ve ever met). That was a disaster from the start, and as I’ve said many times before, it was not the boots-on-the-ground workers who were asking for it. They’re the ones taking all the flak for it now, though.
As to the “tooling around in the fire engines” how do you think firefighters get to calls? The fire station isn’t what goes on calls; the fire engines/trucks do. Firefighters are tied to the fire engines/trucks (and their zones), not the fire station.
Besides, how do you think groceries get to the fire stations when firefighters often 24+ hours at a stretch? Firefighters work 24 or even 120 hours (not an unusual overtime situation) at a time. You don’t think they should eat? Or, perhaps you think the city should hire additional workers who will keep the fire stations supplied all the time?
Just want to clarify…firefighters do not “run personal errands” while on duty. That’s absolutely not allowed. If you see them in the store, they are ON DUTY. If a call comes in, the groceries are dropped and they run to the call.[/quote]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.
For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
A lawyer friend of mine has a son who just retired as a sherrif deputy. He is making MORE then his salary since he loaded it up with overtime before he left.
John
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette]CA Renter,
Comparing pay for mercenaries in Iraq to public safety employees in California is not apples and apples. Also the military doesn’t retire at full pay. Quite frankly public safety people probably make more money than the mercenaries when you include 30-40 years on pension.
Concerning the firemen who tool around in fire trucks to run personal errands should probably not be allowed to leave the firehouse while they are on duty.
John[/quote]
Public safety personnel don’t retire at full pay, either. Mind you, public safety personnel weren’t complaining about their pensions before the pension boost, either (not anyone I’ve ever met). That was a disaster from the start, and as I’ve said many times before, it was not the boots-on-the-ground workers who were asking for it. They’re the ones taking all the flak for it now, though.
As to the “tooling around in the fire engines” how do you think firefighters get to calls? The fire station isn’t what goes on calls; the fire engines/trucks do. Firefighters are tied to the fire engines/trucks (and their zones), not the fire station.
Besides, how do you think groceries get to the fire stations when firefighters often 24+ hours at a stretch? Firefighters work 24 or even 120 hours (not an unusual overtime situation) at a time. You don’t think they should eat? Or, perhaps you think the city should hire additional workers who will keep the fire stations supplied all the time?
Just want to clarify…firefighters do not “run personal errands” while on duty. That’s absolutely not allowed. If you see them in the store, they are ON DUTY. If a call comes in, the groceries are dropped and they run to the call.[/quote]
In my mind going shopping is a personal errand. I have also seen them parked in a bank’s parking lot.
For every truck I see with lights flashing I see 10 going shopping.
If being on call is so important then they need to stay in the fire house and bring food with them when they get on shift.
A lawyer friend of mine has a son who just retired as a sherrif deputy. He is making MORE then his salary since he loaded it up with overtime before he left.
John
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