[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=Enorah]This law protects children who lives in homes where they are being abused – sexually, verbally, physically, etc.

If your parents are beating the crap out of you and you get pregnant, what do you think they are going to do when you tell them you are pregnant? Take your hand, give you a hug, and counsel you?
[/quote]

Huh ?

What about all those children who are in abusive households who are not pregnant ?
How are we going to protect them.

My point is that their are laws to protect children from abuse. A child in an abusive household should seek protection from authorities or a trusted relative, whether or not they are pregnant.

The proposition that was defeated has nothing to do with abuse. That argument was simply a red herring argument to get your vote.

The proposition sought to provide parental notification in the case where minors sought a specific elective medical procedure.

The problem is that the type of specific medical procedure is one that incites extreme emotions from both sides.

Personally, I do not believe that minors under a certain age (we can argue whether it is 14, 16 or 18) should be able to obtain any elective medical procedure without parental consent.

Are there other non-emergency medical procedures that can be performed on minors without parental consent ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=Enorah]This law protects children who lives in homes where they are being abused – sexually, verbally, physically, etc.

If your parents are beating the crap out of you and you get pregnant, what do you think they are going to do when you tell them you are pregnant? Take your hand, give you a hug, and counsel you?
[/quote]

Huh ?

What about all those children who are in abusive households who are not pregnant ?
How are we going to protect them.

My point is that their are laws to protect children from abuse. A child in an abusive household should seek protection from authorities or a trusted relative, whether or not they are pregnant.

The proposition that was defeated has nothing to do with abuse. That argument was simply a red herring argument to get your vote.

The proposition sought to provide parental notification in the case where minors sought a specific elective medical procedure.

The problem is that the type of specific medical procedure is one that incites extreme emotions from both sides.

Personally, I do not believe that minors under a certain age (we can argue whether it is 14, 16 or 18) should be able to obtain any elective medical procedure without parental consent.

Are there other non-emergency medical procedures that can be performed on minors without parental consent ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Not to belabor the point, but can our children get other elective outpatient surgeries without our consent ?

I think we should ban parental notification for children seeking nose jobs. There are mean parents out there who might make things right by an honor killing of their child that gets a nose job, because they have defiled the human body given to them by mother nature.

Also, while we are at it, we should allow children to be prescribed medication without their parent’s consent. There are whack job parents out there who for religious or other reasons do not want their kids to have medicine. This will avoid parents harming their children and the negative effects of children self-medicating by sniffing glue or huffing toxic chemicals.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Not to belabor the point, but can our children get other elective outpatient surgeries without our consent ?

I think we should ban parental notification for children seeking nose jobs. There are mean parents out there who might make things right by an honor killing of their child that gets a nose job, because they have defiled the human body given to them by mother nature.

Also, while we are at it, we should allow children to be prescribed medication without their parent’s consent. There are whack job parents out there who for religious or other reasons do not want their kids to have medicine. This will avoid parents harming their children and the negative effects of children self-medicating by sniffing glue or huffing toxic chemicals.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Not to belabor the point, but can our children get other elective outpatient surgeries without our consent ?

I think we should ban parental notification for children seeking nose jobs. There are mean parents out there who might make things right by an honor killing of their child that gets a nose job, because they have defiled the human body given to them by mother nature.

Also, while we are at it, we should allow children to be prescribed medication without their parent’s consent. There are whack job parents out there who for religious or other reasons do not want their kids to have medicine. This will avoid parents harming their children and the negative effects of children self-medicating by sniffing glue or huffing toxic chemicals.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Not to belabor the point, but can our children get other elective outpatient surgeries without our consent ?

I think we should ban parental notification for children seeking nose jobs. There are mean parents out there who might make things right by an honor killing of their child that gets a nose job, because they have defiled the human body given to them by mother nature.

Also, while we are at it, we should allow children to be prescribed medication without their parent’s consent. There are whack job parents out there who for religious or other reasons do not want their kids to have medicine. This will avoid parents harming their children and the negative effects of children self-medicating by sniffing glue or huffing toxic chemicals.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Not to belabor the point, but can our children get other elective outpatient surgeries without our consent ?

I think we should ban parental notification for children seeking nose jobs. There are mean parents out there who might make things right by an honor killing of their child that gets a nose job, because they have defiled the human body given to them by mother nature.

Also, while we are at it, we should allow children to be prescribed medication without their parent’s consent. There are whack job parents out there who for religious or other reasons do not want their kids to have medicine. This will avoid parents harming their children and the negative effects of children self-medicating by sniffing glue or huffing toxic chemicals.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=DWCAP]

uhhhh, ask? “So (insert daughters namer here), I have noticed that you seem troubled, is anything wrong?”

I mean comeon here. If your teenage daughter cant go to you with one of the most troubling events any teenager could ever have to deal with, do we really want a doctors note/call outa nowhere to be the notice? This law was defeated for teen protection from the terrible parents. The “honor killing” types who see no problem ‘regaining their honor’ by all the unhonorable means possible. No one wants teenage abortions, no one wants dead babies murdered by moms to scared to admit they are pregnant. And no one wants to put themselves between you and your kids.

But no one wants to find out that “instert female name here” died last week cause an irate parent “regained their honor” or that “insert male name here” got met with a 12gage rebuke from soon to be grandpa. These things happen, and this law would increase the incidences of this. Or perhaps most common/troubling of all, the “insert name” died after she decided to take a punch of pills to try to kill the fetus, or used a coat hanger incorrectly for the same purpose.

Id take my daughter (nope, no kids for me yet) going to a trusted and regulated health professional without my knowledge any day over the alternatives. [/quote]

There was really no need to indicate that you don’t have children, it was obvious be the rest of the post.

By age two kids are hiding things from their parents. They will shit their pants and if you ask them if they are poopy they will tell you “no”.

It definitely can get worse as they near adolescence. Also, from what I remember as a teen, there were plenty of things my parents didn’t know about what me and my siblings did (or at least that’s what I thought).

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=DWCAP]

uhhhh, ask? “So (insert daughters namer here), I have noticed that you seem troubled, is anything wrong?”

I mean comeon here. If your teenage daughter cant go to you with one of the most troubling events any teenager could ever have to deal with, do we really want a doctors note/call outa nowhere to be the notice? This law was defeated for teen protection from the terrible parents. The “honor killing” types who see no problem ‘regaining their honor’ by all the unhonorable means possible. No one wants teenage abortions, no one wants dead babies murdered by moms to scared to admit they are pregnant. And no one wants to put themselves between you and your kids.

But no one wants to find out that “instert female name here” died last week cause an irate parent “regained their honor” or that “insert male name here” got met with a 12gage rebuke from soon to be grandpa. These things happen, and this law would increase the incidences of this. Or perhaps most common/troubling of all, the “insert name” died after she decided to take a punch of pills to try to kill the fetus, or used a coat hanger incorrectly for the same purpose.

Id take my daughter (nope, no kids for me yet) going to a trusted and regulated health professional without my knowledge any day over the alternatives. [/quote]

There was really no need to indicate that you don’t have children, it was obvious be the rest of the post.

By age two kids are hiding things from their parents. They will shit their pants and if you ask them if they are poopy they will tell you “no”.

It definitely can get worse as they near adolescence. Also, from what I remember as a teen, there were plenty of things my parents didn’t know about what me and my siblings did (or at least that’s what I thought).

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=DWCAP]

uhhhh, ask? “So (insert daughters namer here), I have noticed that you seem troubled, is anything wrong?”

I mean comeon here. If your teenage daughter cant go to you with one of the most troubling events any teenager could ever have to deal with, do we really want a doctors note/call outa nowhere to be the notice? This law was defeated for teen protection from the terrible parents. The “honor killing” types who see no problem ‘regaining their honor’ by all the unhonorable means possible. No one wants teenage abortions, no one wants dead babies murdered by moms to scared to admit they are pregnant. And no one wants to put themselves between you and your kids.

But no one wants to find out that “instert female name here” died last week cause an irate parent “regained their honor” or that “insert male name here” got met with a 12gage rebuke from soon to be grandpa. These things happen, and this law would increase the incidences of this. Or perhaps most common/troubling of all, the “insert name” died after she decided to take a punch of pills to try to kill the fetus, or used a coat hanger incorrectly for the same purpose.

Id take my daughter (nope, no kids for me yet) going to a trusted and regulated health professional without my knowledge any day over the alternatives. [/quote]

There was really no need to indicate that you don’t have children, it was obvious be the rest of the post.

By age two kids are hiding things from their parents. They will shit their pants and if you ask them if they are poopy they will tell you “no”.

It definitely can get worse as they near adolescence. Also, from what I remember as a teen, there were plenty of things my parents didn’t know about what me and my siblings did (or at least that’s what I thought).

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=DWCAP]

uhhhh, ask? “So (insert daughters namer here), I have noticed that you seem troubled, is anything wrong?”

I mean comeon here. If your teenage daughter cant go to you with one of the most troubling events any teenager could ever have to deal with, do we really want a doctors note/call outa nowhere to be the notice? This law was defeated for teen protection from the terrible parents. The “honor killing” types who see no problem ‘regaining their honor’ by all the unhonorable means possible. No one wants teenage abortions, no one wants dead babies murdered by moms to scared to admit they are pregnant. And no one wants to put themselves between you and your kids.

But no one wants to find out that “instert female name here” died last week cause an irate parent “regained their honor” or that “insert male name here” got met with a 12gage rebuke from soon to be grandpa. These things happen, and this law would increase the incidences of this. Or perhaps most common/troubling of all, the “insert name” died after she decided to take a punch of pills to try to kill the fetus, or used a coat hanger incorrectly for the same purpose.

Id take my daughter (nope, no kids for me yet) going to a trusted and regulated health professional without my knowledge any day over the alternatives. [/quote]

There was really no need to indicate that you don’t have children, it was obvious be the rest of the post.

By age two kids are hiding things from their parents. They will shit their pants and if you ask them if they are poopy they will tell you “no”.

It definitely can get worse as they near adolescence. Also, from what I remember as a teen, there were plenty of things my parents didn’t know about what me and my siblings did (or at least that’s what I thought).

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=DWCAP]

uhhhh, ask? “So (insert daughters namer here), I have noticed that you seem troubled, is anything wrong?”

I mean comeon here. If your teenage daughter cant go to you with one of the most troubling events any teenager could ever have to deal with, do we really want a doctors note/call outa nowhere to be the notice? This law was defeated for teen protection from the terrible parents. The “honor killing” types who see no problem ‘regaining their honor’ by all the unhonorable means possible. No one wants teenage abortions, no one wants dead babies murdered by moms to scared to admit they are pregnant. And no one wants to put themselves between you and your kids.

But no one wants to find out that “instert female name here” died last week cause an irate parent “regained their honor” or that “insert male name here” got met with a 12gage rebuke from soon to be grandpa. These things happen, and this law would increase the incidences of this. Or perhaps most common/troubling of all, the “insert name” died after she decided to take a punch of pills to try to kill the fetus, or used a coat hanger incorrectly for the same purpose.

Id take my daughter (nope, no kids for me yet) going to a trusted and regulated health professional without my knowledge any day over the alternatives. [/quote]

There was really no need to indicate that you don’t have children, it was obvious be the rest of the post.

By age two kids are hiding things from their parents. They will shit their pants and if you ask them if they are poopy they will tell you “no”.

It definitely can get worse as they near adolescence. Also, from what I remember as a teen, there were plenty of things my parents didn’t know about what me and my siblings did (or at least that’s what I thought).

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Seriously, I think that the time to short has passed.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Seriously, I think that the time to short has passed.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Seriously, I think that the time to short has passed.

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