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Participant[quote=desmond]FormerSD, From your link it says total moves, in or out, for each city, so 5000 is not the minimum for people moving in. Still a meaningless example. btw, I cannot see how people moving in using a U-haul is something to brag about, that is one step above the Beverly Hillbillies moving firm.[/quote]
I have not formed an opinon nor expressed an opinion on these data in this thread that the Uhaul numbers are an indicator to brag about.
I also have not written anything in this thread (so far) that says these are an indication of strength or weakness in the housing or rental markets.
I am simply trying to point to and examine examples and data that people used previously to indicate that people were moving out of San Diego. I agree that these statistics and examples are as meaningless now as they were in 2005-2006. But, in retrospect they were consistent with observations and other data that followed back then.
ParticipantThis is probably a waste of time, but here goes … informal quotes of UHaul rates form their web site.
17-foot trucks for May 15 pick-up:San Diego to Dallas : 1198
Dallas to San Diego : 724Wow the disparity must still exist, but what about other cities …
San Diego to Kansas City : $1386
Kansas City to San Diego : $1386Hmmmm… Maybe the San Diego/Dallas disparity has more to do with Dallas/Texas inmigration than San Diego outmigration …
Kansas City to Dallas : 440
Dallas to Kansas City : 262Must be a premium to go to Texas.
What about SD to/from other regional cities:
San Diego to Phoenix: 194
Phoenix to San Diego 224San Diego to LA: 110
LA to San Diego: 173San Diego to San Francisco : 269
San Fran to San Diego : 326San Diego to Las Vegas : 227
Las Vegas to San Diego : 227ParticipantThis is probably a waste of time, but here goes … informal quotes of UHaul rates form their web site.
17-foot trucks for May 15 pick-up:San Diego to Dallas : 1198
Dallas to San Diego : 724Wow the disparity must still exist, but what about other cities …
San Diego to Kansas City : $1386
Kansas City to San Diego : $1386Hmmmm… Maybe the San Diego/Dallas disparity has more to do with Dallas/Texas inmigration than San Diego outmigration …
Kansas City to Dallas : 440
Dallas to Kansas City : 262Must be a premium to go to Texas.
What about SD to/from other regional cities:
San Diego to Phoenix: 194
Phoenix to San Diego 224San Diego to LA: 110
LA to San Diego: 173San Diego to San Francisco : 269
San Fran to San Diego : 326San Diego to Las Vegas : 227
Las Vegas to San Diego : 227ParticipantThis is probably a waste of time, but here goes … informal quotes of UHaul rates form their web site.
17-foot trucks for May 15 pick-up:San Diego to Dallas : 1198
Dallas to San Diego : 724Wow the disparity must still exist, but what about other cities …
San Diego to Kansas City : $1386
Kansas City to San Diego : $1386Hmmmm… Maybe the San Diego/Dallas disparity has more to do with Dallas/Texas inmigration than San Diego outmigration …
Kansas City to Dallas : 440
Dallas to Kansas City : 262Must be a premium to go to Texas.
What about SD to/from other regional cities:
San Diego to Phoenix: 194
Phoenix to San Diego 224San Diego to LA: 110
LA to San Diego: 173San Diego to San Francisco : 269
San Fran to San Diego : 326San Diego to Las Vegas : 227
Las Vegas to San Diego : 227ParticipantThis is probably a waste of time, but here goes … informal quotes of UHaul rates form their web site.
17-foot trucks for May 15 pick-up:San Diego to Dallas : 1198
Dallas to San Diego : 724Wow the disparity must still exist, but what about other cities …
San Diego to Kansas City : $1386
Kansas City to San Diego : $1386Hmmmm… Maybe the San Diego/Dallas disparity has more to do with Dallas/Texas inmigration than San Diego outmigration …
Kansas City to Dallas : 440
Dallas to Kansas City : 262Must be a premium to go to Texas.
What about SD to/from other regional cities:
San Diego to Phoenix: 194
Phoenix to San Diego 224San Diego to LA: 110
LA to San Diego: 173San Diego to San Francisco : 269
San Fran to San Diego : 326San Diego to Las Vegas : 227
Las Vegas to San Diego : 227ParticipantThis is probably a waste of time, but here goes … informal quotes of UHaul rates form their web site.
17-foot trucks for May 15 pick-up:San Diego to Dallas : 1198
Dallas to San Diego : 724Wow the disparity must still exist, but what about other cities …
San Diego to Kansas City : $1386
Kansas City to San Diego : $1386Hmmmm… Maybe the San Diego/Dallas disparity has more to do with Dallas/Texas inmigration than San Diego outmigration …
Kansas City to Dallas : 440
Dallas to Kansas City : 262Must be a premium to go to Texas.
What about SD to/from other regional cities:
San Diego to Phoenix: 194
Phoenix to San Diego 224San Diego to LA: 110
LA to San Diego: 173San Diego to San Francisco : 269
San Fran to San Diego : 326San Diego to Las Vegas : 227
Las Vegas to San Diego : 227Participant[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]All I can tell you is that yes there is domestic migration out, but immigration these days is more and more coming from Asia , and they generally don’t move to Texas,
L.A and NYC are the top destinations followed by San Jose.[/quote]
Net domestic migration in San Diego county in 2009 was -2588 people (that many more left than came in). However, in the mid 2000’s we were averaging about -35,000 to -38,000 in net domestic migration.
Participant[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]All I can tell you is that yes there is domestic migration out, but immigration these days is more and more coming from Asia , and they generally don’t move to Texas,
L.A and NYC are the top destinations followed by San Jose.[/quote]
Net domestic migration in San Diego county in 2009 was -2588 people (that many more left than came in). However, in the mid 2000’s we were averaging about -35,000 to -38,000 in net domestic migration.
Participant[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]All I can tell you is that yes there is domestic migration out, but immigration these days is more and more coming from Asia , and they generally don’t move to Texas,
L.A and NYC are the top destinations followed by San Jose.[/quote]
Net domestic migration in San Diego county in 2009 was -2588 people (that many more left than came in). However, in the mid 2000’s we were averaging about -35,000 to -38,000 in net domestic migration.
Participant[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]All I can tell you is that yes there is domestic migration out, but immigration these days is more and more coming from Asia , and they generally don’t move to Texas,
L.A and NYC are the top destinations followed by San Jose.[/quote]
Net domestic migration in San Diego county in 2009 was -2588 people (that many more left than came in). However, in the mid 2000’s we were averaging about -35,000 to -38,000 in net domestic migration.
Participant[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]All I can tell you is that yes there is domestic migration out, but immigration these days is more and more coming from Asia , and they generally don’t move to Texas,
L.A and NYC are the top destinations followed by San Jose.[/quote]
Net domestic migration in San Diego county in 2009 was -2588 people (that many more left than came in). However, in the mid 2000’s we were averaging about -35,000 to -38,000 in net domestic migration.
Participant[quote=EconProf]Not sure this indicator means much about a city’s growth or decline. After all, Las Vegas was the #2 destination, but it was recently reported that Clark County (Las Vegas) had its first population decline in decades last year. It’s ranking as #2 is just a lot of churning as many people are coming and going, but mostly going.
The better indicator is the occassionally published ratio of the cost of U-haul trucks into a city compared to the cost of a U-haul out. Since the U-haul company varies the price depending on demand, we get a valuable peek into the apparent desirability of a city. By this measure cities in Texas, Idaho, Utah and other economically healthy areas were gaining at the expense of CA, according to data I saw some time ago.
Anybody have the latest figures?[/quote]Yes, I agree those numbers would definitely be more telling. But, I have not found a source, other than some anecdotal articles that are typically several years old.
Participant[quote=EconProf]Not sure this indicator means much about a city’s growth or decline. After all, Las Vegas was the #2 destination, but it was recently reported that Clark County (Las Vegas) had its first population decline in decades last year. It’s ranking as #2 is just a lot of churning as many people are coming and going, but mostly going.
The better indicator is the occassionally published ratio of the cost of U-haul trucks into a city compared to the cost of a U-haul out. Since the U-haul company varies the price depending on demand, we get a valuable peek into the apparent desirability of a city. By this measure cities in Texas, Idaho, Utah and other economically healthy areas were gaining at the expense of CA, according to data I saw some time ago.
Anybody have the latest figures?[/quote]Yes, I agree those numbers would definitely be more telling. But, I have not found a source, other than some anecdotal articles that are typically several years old.
Participant[quote=EconProf]Not sure this indicator means much about a city’s growth or decline. After all, Las Vegas was the #2 destination, but it was recently reported that Clark County (Las Vegas) had its first population decline in decades last year. It’s ranking as #2 is just a lot of churning as many people are coming and going, but mostly going.
The better indicator is the occassionally published ratio of the cost of U-haul trucks into a city compared to the cost of a U-haul out. Since the U-haul company varies the price depending on demand, we get a valuable peek into the apparent desirability of a city. By this measure cities in Texas, Idaho, Utah and other economically healthy areas were gaining at the expense of CA, according to data I saw some time ago.
Anybody have the latest figures?[/quote]Yes, I agree those numbers would definitely be more telling. But, I have not found a source, other than some anecdotal articles that are typically several years old.
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