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June 30, 2010 at 12:50 PM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #574619June 30, 2010 at 12:50 PM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #574917
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Participant[quote=davelj][quote=jpinpb][quote=KSMountain]I took that test once, about 20 years ago. I don’t remember at all what my letters were, but I somehow kept it and I have the results in a binder in the garage which I’ve never reopened…
I wonder if I’d get the same letters now…[/quote]
I wonder that, too, if in different periods in one’s life the score changes.[/quote]
I’ve taken the Myers-Briggs test a few times (maybe 3) over the last 20 years and always come up with the same type (INTJ). While people clearly change over time, I don’t think their basic personality type changes much. There must be reams of studies on this type of thing.[/quote]
There are, and you’re right.
June 29, 2010 at 9:20 AM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #573122Participant[quote=walterwhite]i didn’t make clear but in the article the writer says she had no idea how to do the requested task. she knew she didn’t know how to do it, but she didn’t know she’d be able to figure out how to do it, which in a way is like not knowing you don’t know how to do something. But I suppose the costs of showing “weakness” exceed the possible perception of unfoidence if you are truthful, so the rational direction is to live ina general state of denial of your limits, always proclaim ability and proceed with throttle wfo.[/quote]
One important difference, Scaredy: “…she knew she didn’t know how to do it…”
A true anosognosic wouldn’t know that.However, the practice you mention is one I have come upon frequently in the workplace. The trait, in itself, can and does create serious problems in a work situation. But it also has undesirable consequences. People tend to instill their own deleterious qualities in their co-workers, i.e., people who fake it think everybody else is faking it.
June 29, 2010 at 9:20 AM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #573215Participant[quote=walterwhite]i didn’t make clear but in the article the writer says she had no idea how to do the requested task. she knew she didn’t know how to do it, but she didn’t know she’d be able to figure out how to do it, which in a way is like not knowing you don’t know how to do something. But I suppose the costs of showing “weakness” exceed the possible perception of unfoidence if you are truthful, so the rational direction is to live ina general state of denial of your limits, always proclaim ability and proceed with throttle wfo.[/quote]
One important difference, Scaredy: “…she knew she didn’t know how to do it…”
A true anosognosic wouldn’t know that.However, the practice you mention is one I have come upon frequently in the workplace. The trait, in itself, can and does create serious problems in a work situation. But it also has undesirable consequences. People tend to instill their own deleterious qualities in their co-workers, i.e., people who fake it think everybody else is faking it.
June 29, 2010 at 9:20 AM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #573732Participant[quote=walterwhite]i didn’t make clear but in the article the writer says she had no idea how to do the requested task. she knew she didn’t know how to do it, but she didn’t know she’d be able to figure out how to do it, which in a way is like not knowing you don’t know how to do something. But I suppose the costs of showing “weakness” exceed the possible perception of unfoidence if you are truthful, so the rational direction is to live ina general state of denial of your limits, always proclaim ability and proceed with throttle wfo.[/quote]
One important difference, Scaredy: “…she knew she didn’t know how to do it…”
A true anosognosic wouldn’t know that.However, the practice you mention is one I have come upon frequently in the workplace. The trait, in itself, can and does create serious problems in a work situation. But it also has undesirable consequences. People tend to instill their own deleterious qualities in their co-workers, i.e., people who fake it think everybody else is faking it.
June 29, 2010 at 9:20 AM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #573837Participant[quote=walterwhite]i didn’t make clear but in the article the writer says she had no idea how to do the requested task. she knew she didn’t know how to do it, but she didn’t know she’d be able to figure out how to do it, which in a way is like not knowing you don’t know how to do something. But I suppose the costs of showing “weakness” exceed the possible perception of unfoidence if you are truthful, so the rational direction is to live ina general state of denial of your limits, always proclaim ability and proceed with throttle wfo.[/quote]
One important difference, Scaredy: “…she knew she didn’t know how to do it…”
A true anosognosic wouldn’t know that.However, the practice you mention is one I have come upon frequently in the workplace. The trait, in itself, can and does create serious problems in a work situation. But it also has undesirable consequences. People tend to instill their own deleterious qualities in their co-workers, i.e., people who fake it think everybody else is faking it.
June 29, 2010 at 9:20 AM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #574134Participant[quote=walterwhite]i didn’t make clear but in the article the writer says she had no idea how to do the requested task. she knew she didn’t know how to do it, but she didn’t know she’d be able to figure out how to do it, which in a way is like not knowing you don’t know how to do something. But I suppose the costs of showing “weakness” exceed the possible perception of unfoidence if you are truthful, so the rational direction is to live ina general state of denial of your limits, always proclaim ability and proceed with throttle wfo.[/quote]
One important difference, Scaredy: “…she knew she didn’t know how to do it…”
A true anosognosic wouldn’t know that.However, the practice you mention is one I have come upon frequently in the workplace. The trait, in itself, can and does create serious problems in a work situation. But it also has undesirable consequences. People tend to instill their own deleterious qualities in their co-workers, i.e., people who fake it think everybody else is faking it.
June 28, 2010 at 12:40 PM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #572777Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Possibly then community organizers are not….. whoa there nellie!!!! Just having some fun.. I need to read the article but plan to do so with my example in mind. I’ve always personally felt, and this may sound a little funny….Too intelligent which allows me to understand just how stupid I am….[/quote]
Cardiff, it may sound a little funny, but I’ve thought the same thing, and daresay some other Piggs have, also. But you’re right: you do recognize your shortcomings in some areas, which, in most individuals, shows intelligence and maturity.
You definitely should read the articles – really thought-provoking. I think they’ve published four of the five parts. But keep in mind that there’s everyday garden-variety incompetence, which is fairly common, and then there’s cluelessness to the point of genuine cerebral dysfunction. The author does a very proficient job of exploring the phenomenon.
June 28, 2010 at 12:40 PM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #572873Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Possibly then community organizers are not….. whoa there nellie!!!! Just having some fun.. I need to read the article but plan to do so with my example in mind. I’ve always personally felt, and this may sound a little funny….Too intelligent which allows me to understand just how stupid I am….[/quote]
Cardiff, it may sound a little funny, but I’ve thought the same thing, and daresay some other Piggs have, also. But you’re right: you do recognize your shortcomings in some areas, which, in most individuals, shows intelligence and maturity.
You definitely should read the articles – really thought-provoking. I think they’ve published four of the five parts. But keep in mind that there’s everyday garden-variety incompetence, which is fairly common, and then there’s cluelessness to the point of genuine cerebral dysfunction. The author does a very proficient job of exploring the phenomenon.
June 28, 2010 at 12:40 PM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #573384Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Possibly then community organizers are not….. whoa there nellie!!!! Just having some fun.. I need to read the article but plan to do so with my example in mind. I’ve always personally felt, and this may sound a little funny….Too intelligent which allows me to understand just how stupid I am….[/quote]
Cardiff, it may sound a little funny, but I’ve thought the same thing, and daresay some other Piggs have, also. But you’re right: you do recognize your shortcomings in some areas, which, in most individuals, shows intelligence and maturity.
You definitely should read the articles – really thought-provoking. I think they’ve published four of the five parts. But keep in mind that there’s everyday garden-variety incompetence, which is fairly common, and then there’s cluelessness to the point of genuine cerebral dysfunction. The author does a very proficient job of exploring the phenomenon.
June 28, 2010 at 12:40 PM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #573489Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Possibly then community organizers are not….. whoa there nellie!!!! Just having some fun.. I need to read the article but plan to do so with my example in mind. I’ve always personally felt, and this may sound a little funny….Too intelligent which allows me to understand just how stupid I am….[/quote]
Cardiff, it may sound a little funny, but I’ve thought the same thing, and daresay some other Piggs have, also. But you’re right: you do recognize your shortcomings in some areas, which, in most individuals, shows intelligence and maturity.
You definitely should read the articles – really thought-provoking. I think they’ve published four of the five parts. But keep in mind that there’s everyday garden-variety incompetence, which is fairly common, and then there’s cluelessness to the point of genuine cerebral dysfunction. The author does a very proficient job of exploring the phenomenon.
June 28, 2010 at 12:40 PM in reply to: OT: NYT article on, among other things, the limits of our ability to acknowledge what we don’t know #573784Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Possibly then community organizers are not….. whoa there nellie!!!! Just having some fun.. I need to read the article but plan to do so with my example in mind. I’ve always personally felt, and this may sound a little funny….Too intelligent which allows me to understand just how stupid I am….[/quote]
Cardiff, it may sound a little funny, but I’ve thought the same thing, and daresay some other Piggs have, also. But you’re right: you do recognize your shortcomings in some areas, which, in most individuals, shows intelligence and maturity.
You definitely should read the articles – really thought-provoking. I think they’ve published four of the five parts. But keep in mind that there’s everyday garden-variety incompetence, which is fairly common, and then there’s cluelessness to the point of genuine cerebral dysfunction. The author does a very proficient job of exploring the phenomenon.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor] ….Honestly the impact of the flippers is much less then people make them out to be. The impact of the banks behavior with the loan mods DWARFS the flipper impact with respect to available inventory.[/quote]
I concur 100 percent. Astute observation, SD, and one that, mysteriously, continues to go unobserved by those in power.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor] ….Honestly the impact of the flippers is much less then people make them out to be. The impact of the banks behavior with the loan mods DWARFS the flipper impact with respect to available inventory.[/quote]
I concur 100 percent. Astute observation, SD, and one that, mysteriously, continues to go unobserved by those in power.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor] ….Honestly the impact of the flippers is much less then people make them out to be. The impact of the banks behavior with the loan mods DWARFS the flipper impact with respect to available inventory.[/quote]
I concur 100 percent. Astute observation, SD, and one that, mysteriously, continues to go unobserved by those in power.
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