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CricketOnTheHearth
Participantpicpoule 9:19 am:
Per your argument, I rest my case. You are a real, original-school conservative. These knuckleheads in the public spotlight are just fascists.
CricketOnTheHearth
Participantpicpoule 9:19 am:
Per your argument, I rest my case. You are a real, original-school conservative. These knuckleheads in the public spotlight are just fascists.
CricketOnTheHearth
Participantpicpoule 9:19 am:
Per your argument, I rest my case. You are a real, original-school conservative. These knuckleheads in the public spotlight are just fascists.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantAgree about Putin’s character. Even in photographs he has a very cold look in his eyes, and if it shows up in photos that’s sayin’ somthing.
Not sure what to think about spending energy and treasure to fend him off of Eastern Europe. On the one hand, it should be done. On the other hand, due to the feckless policies of the last 8 years bankrupting our nation’s treasury, we just can’t afford it. If only the Europeans could band together in that “greater sphere” they keep talking about and stand up for themselves. In aggregate, they are as big as the U.S.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantAgree about Putin’s character. Even in photographs he has a very cold look in his eyes, and if it shows up in photos that’s sayin’ somthing.
Not sure what to think about spending energy and treasure to fend him off of Eastern Europe. On the one hand, it should be done. On the other hand, due to the feckless policies of the last 8 years bankrupting our nation’s treasury, we just can’t afford it. If only the Europeans could band together in that “greater sphere” they keep talking about and stand up for themselves. In aggregate, they are as big as the U.S.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantAgree about Putin’s character. Even in photographs he has a very cold look in his eyes, and if it shows up in photos that’s sayin’ somthing.
Not sure what to think about spending energy and treasure to fend him off of Eastern Europe. On the one hand, it should be done. On the other hand, due to the feckless policies of the last 8 years bankrupting our nation’s treasury, we just can’t afford it. If only the Europeans could band together in that “greater sphere” they keep talking about and stand up for themselves. In aggregate, they are as big as the U.S.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantAgree about Putin’s character. Even in photographs he has a very cold look in his eyes, and if it shows up in photos that’s sayin’ somthing.
Not sure what to think about spending energy and treasure to fend him off of Eastern Europe. On the one hand, it should be done. On the other hand, due to the feckless policies of the last 8 years bankrupting our nation’s treasury, we just can’t afford it. If only the Europeans could band together in that “greater sphere” they keep talking about and stand up for themselves. In aggregate, they are as big as the U.S.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantAgree about Putin’s character. Even in photographs he has a very cold look in his eyes, and if it shows up in photos that’s sayin’ somthing.
Not sure what to think about spending energy and treasure to fend him off of Eastern Europe. On the one hand, it should be done. On the other hand, due to the feckless policies of the last 8 years bankrupting our nation’s treasury, we just can’t afford it. If only the Europeans could band together in that “greater sphere” they keep talking about and stand up for themselves. In aggregate, they are as big as the U.S.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantGetting back to the comment on “conservative values” including “individual rights and self-determination”, that idea often seems to end where a woman’s body begins. Contraception is portrayed as somehow sinful and similar to abortion, and once a woman gets pregnant she is expected to bear the child no matter what. These same people who want to force a woman to donate her womb to a fetus would be appalled at the idea of forcing a man to donate his kidney to a stranger.
Then they also want to prosecute a “war on drugs”, even on marijuana, whose effects are no worse than tobacco and alcohol. So much for “individual freedoms” there. Finally, they advocate hands-off policy on corporations who want to pollute and despoil our landscape, making our countryside and planet unfit for human habitation. In other words, no interest whatsoever in “conserving” our natural resources.
I think a lot of these self-styled “conservatives,” especially the noisy Washington politicians and media mouthpieces, talk out of both sides of their mouths and I don’t think they are true conservatives at all. Unfortunately, they squall so much and loudly about how “conservative” they are that everyone thinks that oppressing women and minorities, interfering in consenting adults’ private lives, and laying waste to the land we must live on are part of the “conservative” agenda.
The closest thing to a true “conservative” I’ve seen is your average Libertarian. Not the leaders of the Republican Party and the “right wing”.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantGetting back to the comment on “conservative values” including “individual rights and self-determination”, that idea often seems to end where a woman’s body begins. Contraception is portrayed as somehow sinful and similar to abortion, and once a woman gets pregnant she is expected to bear the child no matter what. These same people who want to force a woman to donate her womb to a fetus would be appalled at the idea of forcing a man to donate his kidney to a stranger.
Then they also want to prosecute a “war on drugs”, even on marijuana, whose effects are no worse than tobacco and alcohol. So much for “individual freedoms” there. Finally, they advocate hands-off policy on corporations who want to pollute and despoil our landscape, making our countryside and planet unfit for human habitation. In other words, no interest whatsoever in “conserving” our natural resources.
I think a lot of these self-styled “conservatives,” especially the noisy Washington politicians and media mouthpieces, talk out of both sides of their mouths and I don’t think they are true conservatives at all. Unfortunately, they squall so much and loudly about how “conservative” they are that everyone thinks that oppressing women and minorities, interfering in consenting adults’ private lives, and laying waste to the land we must live on are part of the “conservative” agenda.
The closest thing to a true “conservative” I’ve seen is your average Libertarian. Not the leaders of the Republican Party and the “right wing”.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantGetting back to the comment on “conservative values” including “individual rights and self-determination”, that idea often seems to end where a woman’s body begins. Contraception is portrayed as somehow sinful and similar to abortion, and once a woman gets pregnant she is expected to bear the child no matter what. These same people who want to force a woman to donate her womb to a fetus would be appalled at the idea of forcing a man to donate his kidney to a stranger.
Then they also want to prosecute a “war on drugs”, even on marijuana, whose effects are no worse than tobacco and alcohol. So much for “individual freedoms” there. Finally, they advocate hands-off policy on corporations who want to pollute and despoil our landscape, making our countryside and planet unfit for human habitation. In other words, no interest whatsoever in “conserving” our natural resources.
I think a lot of these self-styled “conservatives,” especially the noisy Washington politicians and media mouthpieces, talk out of both sides of their mouths and I don’t think they are true conservatives at all. Unfortunately, they squall so much and loudly about how “conservative” they are that everyone thinks that oppressing women and minorities, interfering in consenting adults’ private lives, and laying waste to the land we must live on are part of the “conservative” agenda.
The closest thing to a true “conservative” I’ve seen is your average Libertarian. Not the leaders of the Republican Party and the “right wing”.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantGetting back to the comment on “conservative values” including “individual rights and self-determination”, that idea often seems to end where a woman’s body begins. Contraception is portrayed as somehow sinful and similar to abortion, and once a woman gets pregnant she is expected to bear the child no matter what. These same people who want to force a woman to donate her womb to a fetus would be appalled at the idea of forcing a man to donate his kidney to a stranger.
Then they also want to prosecute a “war on drugs”, even on marijuana, whose effects are no worse than tobacco and alcohol. So much for “individual freedoms” there. Finally, they advocate hands-off policy on corporations who want to pollute and despoil our landscape, making our countryside and planet unfit for human habitation. In other words, no interest whatsoever in “conserving” our natural resources.
I think a lot of these self-styled “conservatives,” especially the noisy Washington politicians and media mouthpieces, talk out of both sides of their mouths and I don’t think they are true conservatives at all. Unfortunately, they squall so much and loudly about how “conservative” they are that everyone thinks that oppressing women and minorities, interfering in consenting adults’ private lives, and laying waste to the land we must live on are part of the “conservative” agenda.
The closest thing to a true “conservative” I’ve seen is your average Libertarian. Not the leaders of the Republican Party and the “right wing”.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantGetting back to the comment on “conservative values” including “individual rights and self-determination”, that idea often seems to end where a woman’s body begins. Contraception is portrayed as somehow sinful and similar to abortion, and once a woman gets pregnant she is expected to bear the child no matter what. These same people who want to force a woman to donate her womb to a fetus would be appalled at the idea of forcing a man to donate his kidney to a stranger.
Then they also want to prosecute a “war on drugs”, even on marijuana, whose effects are no worse than tobacco and alcohol. So much for “individual freedoms” there. Finally, they advocate hands-off policy on corporations who want to pollute and despoil our landscape, making our countryside and planet unfit for human habitation. In other words, no interest whatsoever in “conserving” our natural resources.
I think a lot of these self-styled “conservatives,” especially the noisy Washington politicians and media mouthpieces, talk out of both sides of their mouths and I don’t think they are true conservatives at all. Unfortunately, they squall so much and loudly about how “conservative” they are that everyone thinks that oppressing women and minorities, interfering in consenting adults’ private lives, and laying waste to the land we must live on are part of the “conservative” agenda.
The closest thing to a true “conservative” I’ve seen is your average Libertarian. Not the leaders of the Republican Party and the “right wing”.
CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantRegarding the rancor against Obama… What I see directed against Obama seems to be of the same flavor as what was thrown at Bill Clinton– except possibly a bit less shrill. Yes, you read that right– I was *amazed* at the intensity of hatred that was directed at Clinton upon his inauguration. It seemed like he hit the ground running through a mudstorm.
Since the tenor of the attacks feels the same to me, I wonder if it is really racism, or rather a venomous hatred of the idea of a Democratic president and all the Democrats stand for. The racism appears to me to be just another convenient handful of mud to pitch at Obama, not the main event here.
If anything, there even seems to me to be a bit of holding-back on the part of the right wingers here; clearly if they let fly all-out with racist attacks on Obama they would totally discredit themselves. They felt no such compunctions when attacking Clinton for his sexual misadventures, labeling him “Slick Willy” and so on. Or else, they *are* letting fly, but the big-media is not giving it as much coverage as the attacks on Clinton got.
Of course, some wits commented back in those days that Clinton was “our first Black president”. Hmmm.
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