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ParticipantOh Yeah!
Kool-Aid’s here, wearing’ a smile!
Good bye thirst, smile for a while!
A big, fine, happy ear-to-ear Kool-Aid smi-yi-yile!!afx114, I’m with ya, friend.
ParticipantOh Yeah!
Kool-Aid’s here, wearing’ a smile!
Good bye thirst, smile for a while!
A big, fine, happy ear-to-ear Kool-Aid smi-yi-yile!!afx114, I’m with ya, friend.
ParticipantOh Yeah!
Kool-Aid’s here, wearing’ a smile!
Good bye thirst, smile for a while!
A big, fine, happy ear-to-ear Kool-Aid smi-yi-yile!!afx114, I’m with ya, friend.
ParticipantHi, 4S:
I have a number of comments.
I have been watching those very same areas for a number of years, because I want to eventually buy in there too. According to Zillow, prices have dropped ~20-30% from the (bubble) peak overall. But a reality check– they are still about 2X the inflation-adjusted equivalent of the 1996 bottom. RB/RPQ/CMR are what we Piggs are calling a “sticky” area. As jameswenn pointed out, owners here are (currently) in a better position to sit tight if they can’t sell at the price they want.
Remember that normally there is a late spring/summer bump in housing markets, as people want to move over summer vacation. Winter things tend to slow down; I’d keep an eye out and look for cheaper stuff this winter (I know I am).
Also, there has been a ton of government (and bank?) intervention in this market. No wonder you are confused with it. You may have heard of “shadow inventory”; that is those houses & condos whose owners have defaulted on their mortgages, or gone even further in the foreclosure process, but the properties have not come out the other end to become REOs and be for sale (“foreclosure sales”). These properties have backlogged because of foreclosure moratoriums, HAMP and other “loan mod” schemes, and maybe just the banks just sitting back and waiting to see if the gov’t(s) can somehow “fix it” before they go ahead with the foreclosures.
However, a Bank of America spokeswoman (unnamed) recently said basically that they are fed up with waiting and they are going to be “pulling the ripcord” on a lot of these in-process properties between now and December. So I’m watching to see if we start seeing these properties too.
Just in my cursory Zillowing around in the area you name, I’ve noticed a fairly high number of places that were bought in 2005, 2006 timeframe (= right at the peak). Depending what kind of mortgage those people had, those properties may be vulnerable to foreclosure.
Finally, take everything that realtors, especially spokesmen for the National Association of Realtors, say with a grain of salt the size of a Rubik’s cube. What realtors get out of home sales is a % commission, and sad to say this becomes motivation for too many of them to urge you to buy no matter what. Sometimes the worse ones seem like a line of Indians flapping blankets trying to get the buffalo to run off the cliff: “You better buy now, prices will never be this low again!” etc. My advice is don’t be a buffalo.
That said, our own (here on this forum) sdrealtor and SD Realtor seem to be pretty level-headed sources of advice.
Most of all, Read this piece of timeless advice from Temeculaguy.
ParticipantHi, 4S:
I have a number of comments.
I have been watching those very same areas for a number of years, because I want to eventually buy in there too. According to Zillow, prices have dropped ~20-30% from the (bubble) peak overall. But a reality check– they are still about 2X the inflation-adjusted equivalent of the 1996 bottom. RB/RPQ/CMR are what we Piggs are calling a “sticky” area. As jameswenn pointed out, owners here are (currently) in a better position to sit tight if they can’t sell at the price they want.
Remember that normally there is a late spring/summer bump in housing markets, as people want to move over summer vacation. Winter things tend to slow down; I’d keep an eye out and look for cheaper stuff this winter (I know I am).
Also, there has been a ton of government (and bank?) intervention in this market. No wonder you are confused with it. You may have heard of “shadow inventory”; that is those houses & condos whose owners have defaulted on their mortgages, or gone even further in the foreclosure process, but the properties have not come out the other end to become REOs and be for sale (“foreclosure sales”). These properties have backlogged because of foreclosure moratoriums, HAMP and other “loan mod” schemes, and maybe just the banks just sitting back and waiting to see if the gov’t(s) can somehow “fix it” before they go ahead with the foreclosures.
However, a Bank of America spokeswoman (unnamed) recently said basically that they are fed up with waiting and they are going to be “pulling the ripcord” on a lot of these in-process properties between now and December. So I’m watching to see if we start seeing these properties too.
Just in my cursory Zillowing around in the area you name, I’ve noticed a fairly high number of places that were bought in 2005, 2006 timeframe (= right at the peak). Depending what kind of mortgage those people had, those properties may be vulnerable to foreclosure.
Finally, take everything that realtors, especially spokesmen for the National Association of Realtors, say with a grain of salt the size of a Rubik’s cube. What realtors get out of home sales is a % commission, and sad to say this becomes motivation for too many of them to urge you to buy no matter what. Sometimes the worse ones seem like a line of Indians flapping blankets trying to get the buffalo to run off the cliff: “You better buy now, prices will never be this low again!” etc. My advice is don’t be a buffalo.
That said, our own (here on this forum) sdrealtor and SD Realtor seem to be pretty level-headed sources of advice.
Most of all, Read this piece of timeless advice from Temeculaguy.
ParticipantHi, 4S:
I have a number of comments.
I have been watching those very same areas for a number of years, because I want to eventually buy in there too. According to Zillow, prices have dropped ~20-30% from the (bubble) peak overall. But a reality check– they are still about 2X the inflation-adjusted equivalent of the 1996 bottom. RB/RPQ/CMR are what we Piggs are calling a “sticky” area. As jameswenn pointed out, owners here are (currently) in a better position to sit tight if they can’t sell at the price they want.
Remember that normally there is a late spring/summer bump in housing markets, as people want to move over summer vacation. Winter things tend to slow down; I’d keep an eye out and look for cheaper stuff this winter (I know I am).
Also, there has been a ton of government (and bank?) intervention in this market. No wonder you are confused with it. You may have heard of “shadow inventory”; that is those houses & condos whose owners have defaulted on their mortgages, or gone even further in the foreclosure process, but the properties have not come out the other end to become REOs and be for sale (“foreclosure sales”). These properties have backlogged because of foreclosure moratoriums, HAMP and other “loan mod” schemes, and maybe just the banks just sitting back and waiting to see if the gov’t(s) can somehow “fix it” before they go ahead with the foreclosures.
However, a Bank of America spokeswoman (unnamed) recently said basically that they are fed up with waiting and they are going to be “pulling the ripcord” on a lot of these in-process properties between now and December. So I’m watching to see if we start seeing these properties too.
Just in my cursory Zillowing around in the area you name, I’ve noticed a fairly high number of places that were bought in 2005, 2006 timeframe (= right at the peak). Depending what kind of mortgage those people had, those properties may be vulnerable to foreclosure.
Finally, take everything that realtors, especially spokesmen for the National Association of Realtors, say with a grain of salt the size of a Rubik’s cube. What realtors get out of home sales is a % commission, and sad to say this becomes motivation for too many of them to urge you to buy no matter what. Sometimes the worse ones seem like a line of Indians flapping blankets trying to get the buffalo to run off the cliff: “You better buy now, prices will never be this low again!” etc. My advice is don’t be a buffalo.
That said, our own (here on this forum) sdrealtor and SD Realtor seem to be pretty level-headed sources of advice.
Most of all, Read this piece of timeless advice from Temeculaguy.
ParticipantHi, 4S:
I have a number of comments.
I have been watching those very same areas for a number of years, because I want to eventually buy in there too. According to Zillow, prices have dropped ~20-30% from the (bubble) peak overall. But a reality check– they are still about 2X the inflation-adjusted equivalent of the 1996 bottom. RB/RPQ/CMR are what we Piggs are calling a “sticky” area. As jameswenn pointed out, owners here are (currently) in a better position to sit tight if they can’t sell at the price they want.
Remember that normally there is a late spring/summer bump in housing markets, as people want to move over summer vacation. Winter things tend to slow down; I’d keep an eye out and look for cheaper stuff this winter (I know I am).
Also, there has been a ton of government (and bank?) intervention in this market. No wonder you are confused with it. You may have heard of “shadow inventory”; that is those houses & condos whose owners have defaulted on their mortgages, or gone even further in the foreclosure process, but the properties have not come out the other end to become REOs and be for sale (“foreclosure sales”). These properties have backlogged because of foreclosure moratoriums, HAMP and other “loan mod” schemes, and maybe just the banks just sitting back and waiting to see if the gov’t(s) can somehow “fix it” before they go ahead with the foreclosures.
However, a Bank of America spokeswoman (unnamed) recently said basically that they are fed up with waiting and they are going to be “pulling the ripcord” on a lot of these in-process properties between now and December. So I’m watching to see if we start seeing these properties too.
Just in my cursory Zillowing around in the area you name, I’ve noticed a fairly high number of places that were bought in 2005, 2006 timeframe (= right at the peak). Depending what kind of mortgage those people had, those properties may be vulnerable to foreclosure.
Finally, take everything that realtors, especially spokesmen for the National Association of Realtors, say with a grain of salt the size of a Rubik’s cube. What realtors get out of home sales is a % commission, and sad to say this becomes motivation for too many of them to urge you to buy no matter what. Sometimes the worse ones seem like a line of Indians flapping blankets trying to get the buffalo to run off the cliff: “You better buy now, prices will never be this low again!” etc. My advice is don’t be a buffalo.
That said, our own (here on this forum) sdrealtor and SD Realtor seem to be pretty level-headed sources of advice.
Most of all, Read this piece of timeless advice from Temeculaguy.
ParticipantHi, 4S:
I have a number of comments.
I have been watching those very same areas for a number of years, because I want to eventually buy in there too. According to Zillow, prices have dropped ~20-30% from the (bubble) peak overall. But a reality check– they are still about 2X the inflation-adjusted equivalent of the 1996 bottom. RB/RPQ/CMR are what we Piggs are calling a “sticky” area. As jameswenn pointed out, owners here are (currently) in a better position to sit tight if they can’t sell at the price they want.
Remember that normally there is a late spring/summer bump in housing markets, as people want to move over summer vacation. Winter things tend to slow down; I’d keep an eye out and look for cheaper stuff this winter (I know I am).
Also, there has been a ton of government (and bank?) intervention in this market. No wonder you are confused with it. You may have heard of “shadow inventory”; that is those houses & condos whose owners have defaulted on their mortgages, or gone even further in the foreclosure process, but the properties have not come out the other end to become REOs and be for sale (“foreclosure sales”). These properties have backlogged because of foreclosure moratoriums, HAMP and other “loan mod” schemes, and maybe just the banks just sitting back and waiting to see if the gov’t(s) can somehow “fix it” before they go ahead with the foreclosures.
However, a Bank of America spokeswoman (unnamed) recently said basically that they are fed up with waiting and they are going to be “pulling the ripcord” on a lot of these in-process properties between now and December. So I’m watching to see if we start seeing these properties too.
Just in my cursory Zillowing around in the area you name, I’ve noticed a fairly high number of places that were bought in 2005, 2006 timeframe (= right at the peak). Depending what kind of mortgage those people had, those properties may be vulnerable to foreclosure.
Finally, take everything that realtors, especially spokesmen for the National Association of Realtors, say with a grain of salt the size of a Rubik’s cube. What realtors get out of home sales is a % commission, and sad to say this becomes motivation for too many of them to urge you to buy no matter what. Sometimes the worse ones seem like a line of Indians flapping blankets trying to get the buffalo to run off the cliff: “You better buy now, prices will never be this low again!” etc. My advice is don’t be a buffalo.
That said, our own (here on this forum) sdrealtor and SD Realtor seem to be pretty level-headed sources of advice.
Most of all, Read this piece of timeless advice from Temeculaguy.
ParticipantOops, argument over.
Shadow inventory is going up in smokeJ/K, these are probably in Detroit or something.
I think.😯
ParticipantOops, argument over.
Shadow inventory is going up in smokeJ/K, these are probably in Detroit or something.
I think.😯
ParticipantOops, argument over.
Shadow inventory is going up in smokeJ/K, these are probably in Detroit or something.
I think.😯
ParticipantOops, argument over.
Shadow inventory is going up in smokeJ/K, these are probably in Detroit or something.
I think.😯
ParticipantOops, argument over.
Shadow inventory is going up in smokeJ/K, these are probably in Detroit or something.
I think.😯
ParticipantScaredy:
I’m thinking of buying solid silver and gold themselves with my savings, not just the mines.
I visited my local purveyor of Krugerrands, Eagles and Maple Leaves yesterday, and he said he’d been visited by a guy who swore Israel is gonna nuke Iran’s nuclear enrichment facility. I said my money was on conventional-explosives bunker busters, not nukes (that radioactive cloud would go just everywhere, write off half of the Middle East’s oil fields, etc). That said, a few 5000-lb bombs dropping down Ah-maniac-a-jad’s throat might be enough to rattle the markets right there.
Allan, are the commercial real estate loans also bundled (Freudian, I initially typed “bungled”) into impenetrable CDS’s, or can the banks cram down the balance in those cases to at least keep the borrowers alive and cash-flowing into the banks’ coffers to some extent?
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