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ParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
ParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
ParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
ParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
ParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
ParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag or raise their voices, do not expect a man to buy them dinner or park their cars or open their doors. I assume they should never ask where their husbands have been if they come home late or smell of alcohol (or anything else), and they should presumably be open to the husband getting together with “the boys” whenever and wherever he wants — and never question him or expect him to attend to any of her wants or needs if it should conflict with his.
If she bears his children (who would supposedly take his name), she should care for them in addition to working outside of the home — maintaining her elegant appearance and gracious demeanor at all times. Wouldn’t want her to be out of the work force, because she might want to lounge around the house (as housewives are inclined to do) without working AND she might expect spousal support to make up for the reduction in income-earning potential if the couple should get divorced.
Most importantly, she should be available to her husband for sex, whenever and wherever he wants, and should work hard to keep things interesting and fun (this should fit somewhere between working outside the home and taking care of the home and children). Goodness knows she should never be too tired or busy. Again, maintaining an attractive appearance and a well-stocked inventory of exciting lingerie is of utmost importance.
—————–A good husband does not have to take any responsibility for his children or their mother in the event of a divorce, nor should he have to support his family, financially, if he and his wife decide to have children. He does not have to open doors, carry things, or concern himself with his wife’s wants or needs. He can be fat, lazy, bald, unattentive, drink regularly, and otherwise occupy himself with “manly” things like drinking with the boys, fishing, golfing, tinkering on cars, etc.
I’m trying to figure out who has the irrational expectations here…
FWIW, I think 25% of marriages could be classified as “happy” over the long haul. Even though some might not look like they’re skipping through the daisy fields, they would quite literally die without each other.
IMO, the most important thing a couple can focus on is being best friends. All the rest will fade over time. Too many people marry for all the wrong reasons (looks, money, power, social status, etc.), leading to the tremendous number of divorces as the cold reality of daily life slaps them in the face.
ParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag or raise their voices, do not expect a man to buy them dinner or park their cars or open their doors. I assume they should never ask where their husbands have been if they come home late or smell of alcohol (or anything else), and they should presumably be open to the husband getting together with “the boys” whenever and wherever he wants — and never question him or expect him to attend to any of her wants or needs if it should conflict with his.
If she bears his children (who would supposedly take his name), she should care for them in addition to working outside of the home — maintaining her elegant appearance and gracious demeanor at all times. Wouldn’t want her to be out of the work force, because she might want to lounge around the house (as housewives are inclined to do) without working AND she might expect spousal support to make up for the reduction in income-earning potential if the couple should get divorced.
Most importantly, she should be available to her husband for sex, whenever and wherever he wants, and should work hard to keep things interesting and fun (this should fit somewhere between working outside the home and taking care of the home and children). Goodness knows she should never be too tired or busy. Again, maintaining an attractive appearance and a well-stocked inventory of exciting lingerie is of utmost importance.
—————–A good husband does not have to take any responsibility for his children or their mother in the event of a divorce, nor should he have to support his family, financially, if he and his wife decide to have children. He does not have to open doors, carry things, or concern himself with his wife’s wants or needs. He can be fat, lazy, bald, unattentive, drink regularly, and otherwise occupy himself with “manly” things like drinking with the boys, fishing, golfing, tinkering on cars, etc.
I’m trying to figure out who has the irrational expectations here…
FWIW, I think 25% of marriages could be classified as “happy” over the long haul. Even though some might not look like they’re skipping through the daisy fields, they would quite literally die without each other.
IMO, the most important thing a couple can focus on is being best friends. All the rest will fade over time. Too many people marry for all the wrong reasons (looks, money, power, social status, etc.), leading to the tremendous number of divorces as the cold reality of daily life slaps them in the face.
ParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag or raise their voices, do not expect a man to buy them dinner or park their cars or open their doors. I assume they should never ask where their husbands have been if they come home late or smell of alcohol (or anything else), and they should presumably be open to the husband getting together with “the boys” whenever and wherever he wants — and never question him or expect him to attend to any of her wants or needs if it should conflict with his.
If she bears his children (who would supposedly take his name), she should care for them in addition to working outside of the home — maintaining her elegant appearance and gracious demeanor at all times. Wouldn’t want her to be out of the work force, because she might want to lounge around the house (as housewives are inclined to do) without working AND she might expect spousal support to make up for the reduction in income-earning potential if the couple should get divorced.
Most importantly, she should be available to her husband for sex, whenever and wherever he wants, and should work hard to keep things interesting and fun (this should fit somewhere between working outside the home and taking care of the home and children). Goodness knows she should never be too tired or busy. Again, maintaining an attractive appearance and a well-stocked inventory of exciting lingerie is of utmost importance.
—————–A good husband does not have to take any responsibility for his children or their mother in the event of a divorce, nor should he have to support his family, financially, if he and his wife decide to have children. He does not have to open doors, carry things, or concern himself with his wife’s wants or needs. He can be fat, lazy, bald, unattentive, drink regularly, and otherwise occupy himself with “manly” things like drinking with the boys, fishing, golfing, tinkering on cars, etc.
I’m trying to figure out who has the irrational expectations here…
FWIW, I think 25% of marriages could be classified as “happy” over the long haul. Even though some might not look like they’re skipping through the daisy fields, they would quite literally die without each other.
IMO, the most important thing a couple can focus on is being best friends. All the rest will fade over time. Too many people marry for all the wrong reasons (looks, money, power, social status, etc.), leading to the tremendous number of divorces as the cold reality of daily life slaps them in the face.
ParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag or raise their voices, do not expect a man to buy them dinner or park their cars or open their doors. I assume they should never ask where their husbands have been if they come home late or smell of alcohol (or anything else), and they should presumably be open to the husband getting together with “the boys” whenever and wherever he wants — and never question him or expect him to attend to any of her wants or needs if it should conflict with his.
If she bears his children (who would supposedly take his name), she should care for them in addition to working outside of the home — maintaining her elegant appearance and gracious demeanor at all times. Wouldn’t want her to be out of the work force, because she might want to lounge around the house (as housewives are inclined to do) without working AND she might expect spousal support to make up for the reduction in income-earning potential if the couple should get divorced.
Most importantly, she should be available to her husband for sex, whenever and wherever he wants, and should work hard to keep things interesting and fun (this should fit somewhere between working outside the home and taking care of the home and children). Goodness knows she should never be too tired or busy. Again, maintaining an attractive appearance and a well-stocked inventory of exciting lingerie is of utmost importance.
—————–A good husband does not have to take any responsibility for his children or their mother in the event of a divorce, nor should he have to support his family, financially, if he and his wife decide to have children. He does not have to open doors, carry things, or concern himself with his wife’s wants or needs. He can be fat, lazy, bald, unattentive, drink regularly, and otherwise occupy himself with “manly” things like drinking with the boys, fishing, golfing, tinkering on cars, etc.
I’m trying to figure out who has the irrational expectations here…
FWIW, I think 25% of marriages could be classified as “happy” over the long haul. Even though some might not look like they’re skipping through the daisy fields, they would quite literally die without each other.
IMO, the most important thing a couple can focus on is being best friends. All the rest will fade over time. Too many people marry for all the wrong reasons (looks, money, power, social status, etc.), leading to the tremendous number of divorces as the cold reality of daily life slaps them in the face.
ParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag or raise their voices, do not expect a man to buy them dinner or park their cars or open their doors. I assume they should never ask where their husbands have been if they come home late or smell of alcohol (or anything else), and they should presumably be open to the husband getting together with “the boys” whenever and wherever he wants — and never question him or expect him to attend to any of her wants or needs if it should conflict with his.
If she bears his children (who would supposedly take his name), she should care for them in addition to working outside of the home — maintaining her elegant appearance and gracious demeanor at all times. Wouldn’t want her to be out of the work force, because she might want to lounge around the house (as housewives are inclined to do) without working AND she might expect spousal support to make up for the reduction in income-earning potential if the couple should get divorced.
Most importantly, she should be available to her husband for sex, whenever and wherever he wants, and should work hard to keep things interesting and fun (this should fit somewhere between working outside the home and taking care of the home and children). Goodness knows she should never be too tired or busy. Again, maintaining an attractive appearance and a well-stocked inventory of exciting lingerie is of utmost importance.
—————–A good husband does not have to take any responsibility for his children or their mother in the event of a divorce, nor should he have to support his family, financially, if he and his wife decide to have children. He does not have to open doors, carry things, or concern himself with his wife’s wants or needs. He can be fat, lazy, bald, unattentive, drink regularly, and otherwise occupy himself with “manly” things like drinking with the boys, fishing, golfing, tinkering on cars, etc.
I’m trying to figure out who has the irrational expectations here…
FWIW, I think 25% of marriages could be classified as “happy” over the long haul. Even though some might not look like they’re skipping through the daisy fields, they would quite literally die without each other.
IMO, the most important thing a couple can focus on is being best friends. All the rest will fade over time. Too many people marry for all the wrong reasons (looks, money, power, social status, etc.), leading to the tremendous number of divorces as the cold reality of daily life slaps them in the face.
ParticipantI wonder how many men stay in a marriage because they know if they leave the wife will take half? I think that the wife is more likely to leave because she knows she will get half.
———————–Either way, half of what you had as a married couple is always going to be less than what you had. People are bitter because BOTH people lose.
ParticipantI wonder how many men stay in a marriage because they know if they leave the wife will take half? I think that the wife is more likely to leave because she knows she will get half.
———————–Either way, half of what you had as a married couple is always going to be less than what you had. People are bitter because BOTH people lose.
ParticipantI wonder how many men stay in a marriage because they know if they leave the wife will take half? I think that the wife is more likely to leave because she knows she will get half.
———————–Either way, half of what you had as a married couple is always going to be less than what you had. People are bitter because BOTH people lose.
ParticipantI wonder how many men stay in a marriage because they know if they leave the wife will take half? I think that the wife is more likely to leave because she knows she will get half.
———————–Either way, half of what you had as a married couple is always going to be less than what you had. People are bitter because BOTH people lose.
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