[CA renter]

Submitted by stansd on October 7, 2008 – 8:49pm.
CA renter…what kind of argument is that?

First throw out a false choice of being uber wealthy versus being a gardner, and then conclude with, “I’m going to have to agree with myself on this one.”
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Fair enough. Let’s start a sign-up page where those who fear being taxed 50%+ can volunteer for another job (doesn’t have to be gardening) that would lower their income enough to be taxed at a lower rate — just like the bottom 50% of working people who they constantly complain about. They think the lower-income people are getting a better deal, right? So they should jump at the chance to get that better deal…right????

Would that work for you? How many people do you think would sign up? Would they finally stop bitching when they get these lower-paying/lower tax rate jobs?

[CA renter]

In my view the people that put it all on the line and bust their asses to keep people employed deserve the success they achieve.
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Gary,

Agree!!! Problem is, most of the **truly rich** people do not take these risks.

Hedge fund managers, CEOs, etc…even entertainers and athletes, do NOT take the same risks as someone who **uses their own capital** and **risks losing all his/her personal assets** if something fails.

How many times have we seen politicians, executives, fund managers and other financial “wizards” fail miserably only to be given another job within weeks. This after receiving millions or billions from their former ventures (irrespective of their success/failure) and they somehow manage to escape any personal liability.

If you want corporate protection against personal liability, you are NOT taking risks commensurate with the rewards.

If you are a sole proprietor and take the risks **personally** I have no problem with you charging/making whatever you want. Oddly enough, the few people I knew who ran their own companies like this often made less than their employess (like you). They understood that the company came first, and sometimes they would have to suffer in order to benefit at a later time.

Corporations shield greedy f**ks from any liability. Even criminal charges are rare because these players pay politicians for protection.

The game is rigged, and that is what most of us “socialists” are opposed to.

[CA renter]

In my view the people that put it all on the line and bust their asses to keep people employed deserve the success they achieve.
———————

Gary,

Agree!!! Problem is, most of the **truly rich** people do not take these risks.

Hedge fund managers, CEOs, etc…even entertainers and athletes, do NOT take the same risks as someone who **uses their own capital** and **risks losing all his/her personal assets** if something fails.

How many times have we seen politicians, executives, fund managers and other financial “wizards” fail miserably only to be given another job within weeks. This after receiving millions or billions from their former ventures (irrespective of their success/failure) and they somehow manage to escape any personal liability.

If you want corporate protection against personal liability, you are NOT taking risks commensurate with the rewards.

If you are a sole proprietor and take the risks **personally** I have no problem with you charging/making whatever you want. Oddly enough, the few people I knew who ran their own companies like this often made less than their employess (like you). They understood that the company came first, and sometimes they would have to suffer in order to benefit at a later time.

Corporations shield greedy f**ks from any liability. Even criminal charges are rare because these players pay politicians for protection.

The game is rigged, and that is what most of us “socialists” are opposed to.

[CA renter]

In my view the people that put it all on the line and bust their asses to keep people employed deserve the success they achieve.
———————

Gary,

Agree!!! Problem is, most of the **truly rich** people do not take these risks.

Hedge fund managers, CEOs, etc…even entertainers and athletes, do NOT take the same risks as someone who **uses their own capital** and **risks losing all his/her personal assets** if something fails.

How many times have we seen politicians, executives, fund managers and other financial “wizards” fail miserably only to be given another job within weeks. This after receiving millions or billions from their former ventures (irrespective of their success/failure) and they somehow manage to escape any personal liability.

If you want corporate protection against personal liability, you are NOT taking risks commensurate with the rewards.

If you are a sole proprietor and take the risks **personally** I have no problem with you charging/making whatever you want. Oddly enough, the few people I knew who ran their own companies like this often made less than their employess (like you). They understood that the company came first, and sometimes they would have to suffer in order to benefit at a later time.

Corporations shield greedy f**ks from any liability. Even criminal charges are rare because these players pay politicians for protection.

The game is rigged, and that is what most of us “socialists” are opposed to.

[CA renter]

In my view the people that put it all on the line and bust their asses to keep people employed deserve the success they achieve.
———————

Gary,

Agree!!! Problem is, most of the **truly rich** people do not take these risks.

Hedge fund managers, CEOs, etc…even entertainers and athletes, do NOT take the same risks as someone who **uses their own capital** and **risks losing all his/her personal assets** if something fails.

How many times have we seen politicians, executives, fund managers and other financial “wizards” fail miserably only to be given another job within weeks. This after receiving millions or billions from their former ventures (irrespective of their success/failure) and they somehow manage to escape any personal liability.

If you want corporate protection against personal liability, you are NOT taking risks commensurate with the rewards.

If you are a sole proprietor and take the risks **personally** I have no problem with you charging/making whatever you want. Oddly enough, the few people I knew who ran their own companies like this often made less than their employess (like you). They understood that the company came first, and sometimes they would have to suffer in order to benefit at a later time.

Corporations shield greedy f**ks from any liability. Even criminal charges are rare because these players pay politicians for protection.

The game is rigged, and that is what most of us “socialists” are opposed to.

[CA renter]

In my view the people that put it all on the line and bust their asses to keep people employed deserve the success they achieve.
———————

Gary,

Agree!!! Problem is, most of the **truly rich** people do not take these risks.

Hedge fund managers, CEOs, etc…even entertainers and athletes, do NOT take the same risks as someone who **uses their own capital** and **risks losing all his/her personal assets** if something fails.

How many times have we seen politicians, executives, fund managers and other financial “wizards” fail miserably only to be given another job within weeks. This after receiving millions or billions from their former ventures (irrespective of their success/failure) and they somehow manage to escape any personal liability.

If you want corporate protection against personal liability, you are NOT taking risks commensurate with the rewards.

If you are a sole proprietor and take the risks **personally** I have no problem with you charging/making whatever you want. Oddly enough, the few people I knew who ran their own companies like this often made less than their employess (like you). They understood that the company came first, and sometimes they would have to suffer in order to benefit at a later time.

Corporations shield greedy f**ks from any liability. Even criminal charges are rare because these players pay politicians for protection.

The game is rigged, and that is what most of us “socialists” are opposed to.

[CA renter]

Equality is where people receive the value of what they produce, not where everyone is equal. Like it or not, some folks are more productive than others.
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We clearly define “productive” differently.

I believe it’s the WORKERS who are productive, not the ones who sit behind the desks or on golf courses “making deals” that usually benefit themselves — often at the expense of others.

[CA renter]

Equality is where people receive the value of what they produce, not where everyone is equal. Like it or not, some folks are more productive than others.
——————–

We clearly define “productive” differently.

I believe it’s the WORKERS who are productive, not the ones who sit behind the desks or on golf courses “making deals” that usually benefit themselves — often at the expense of others.

[CA renter]

Equality is where people receive the value of what they produce, not where everyone is equal. Like it or not, some folks are more productive than others.
——————–

We clearly define “productive” differently.

I believe it’s the WORKERS who are productive, not the ones who sit behind the desks or on golf courses “making deals” that usually benefit themselves — often at the expense of others.

[CA renter]

Equality is where people receive the value of what they produce, not where everyone is equal. Like it or not, some folks are more productive than others.
——————–

We clearly define “productive” differently.

I believe it’s the WORKERS who are productive, not the ones who sit behind the desks or on golf courses “making deals” that usually benefit themselves — often at the expense of others.

[CA renter]

Equality is where people receive the value of what they produce, not where everyone is equal. Like it or not, some folks are more productive than others.
——————–

We clearly define “productive” differently.

I believe it’s the WORKERS who are productive, not the ones who sit behind the desks or on golf courses “making deals” that usually benefit themselves — often at the expense of others.

[CA renter]

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