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ParticipantThe East India Company was a government-created monopoly; essentially an arm of the British government. True conservatives hate government sponsored monopolies.
Where did I say that conservatives were for government-sponsored monopolies? My post mentioned neither conservatives nor liberals. Also, the East India Company was a private corporation, not part of the British government. If it appeared to be an arm of the British government, that is only evidence of the power it was able to amass through corruption and collusion. East India Company profits went to shareholders (and of course as bribes to British officials), not to the British government as revenue.
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ParticipantIt’s worth remembering that the American Revolution was, in part, a revolution against corporate power. What was the famous Boston Tea Party about? Parliament had granted the powerful East India Company a license to sell tea directly to colonial agents, cutting American merchants out of the valuable tea trade. The Boston Tea Party was organized in response to this unfair collusion between a corrupt government and a powerful corporation.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/revolution/rev-prel.htm
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ParticipantIt’s worth remembering that the American Revolution was, in part, a revolution against corporate power. What was the famous Boston Tea Party about? Parliament had granted the powerful East India Company a license to sell tea directly to colonial agents, cutting American merchants out of the valuable tea trade. The Boston Tea Party was organized in response to this unfair collusion between a corrupt government and a powerful corporation.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/revolution/rev-prel.htm
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ParticipantIt’s worth remembering that the American Revolution was, in part, a revolution against corporate power. What was the famous Boston Tea Party about? Parliament had granted the powerful East India Company a license to sell tea directly to colonial agents, cutting American merchants out of the valuable tea trade. The Boston Tea Party was organized in response to this unfair collusion between a corrupt government and a powerful corporation.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/revolution/rev-prel.htm
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ParticipantIt’s worth remembering that the American Revolution was, in part, a revolution against corporate power. What was the famous Boston Tea Party about? Parliament had granted the powerful East India Company a license to sell tea directly to colonial agents, cutting American merchants out of the valuable tea trade. The Boston Tea Party was organized in response to this unfair collusion between a corrupt government and a powerful corporation.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/revolution/rev-prel.htm
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ParticipantIt’s worth remembering that the American Revolution was, in part, a revolution against corporate power. What was the famous Boston Tea Party about? Parliament had granted the powerful East India Company a license to sell tea directly to colonial agents, cutting American merchants out of the valuable tea trade. The Boston Tea Party was organized in response to this unfair collusion between a corrupt government and a powerful corporation.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/revolution/rev-prel.htm
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ParticipantSwitzerland, which has a system the most similar to the proposed reform, has neither one of those problems.
The Swiss system has several provisions that our new system does not. Without these provisions we will still be getting expensive, crappy care. The only difference will be that more of us will have it and those that don’t can be thrown in the pokey. What are the differences?
1) The Swiss government defines what a health insurance policy is, what it will pay for (almost everything BTW), and how much it costs.
2) The Swiss government will revoke the license of an insurance company for denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, for revoking the policy after someone gets sick, etc…
Essentially, the Swiss system is an extremely highly regulated private system. Health insurance provider profits (for the baseline policies) are regulated by the Swiss government and are kept quite low. It is IMO the best private system in the world. The best public system? The French IMO. Either would be a good model depending on your political bent. Ours will be neither, the insurance companies will continue to do as they please, they will continue to price however they see fit, they will continue to deny you service if you get sick, they will continue to charge you and arm and a leg if you have any sort of pre-existing condition, etc… I’m sure the bill will say they can’t do some of these things but if you believe they’re going to stop, you’ll believe anything. They run the show and they’ll get what they want.
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ParticipantSwitzerland, which has a system the most similar to the proposed reform, has neither one of those problems.
The Swiss system has several provisions that our new system does not. Without these provisions we will still be getting expensive, crappy care. The only difference will be that more of us will have it and those that don’t can be thrown in the pokey. What are the differences?
1) The Swiss government defines what a health insurance policy is, what it will pay for (almost everything BTW), and how much it costs.
2) The Swiss government will revoke the license of an insurance company for denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, for revoking the policy after someone gets sick, etc…
Essentially, the Swiss system is an extremely highly regulated private system. Health insurance provider profits (for the baseline policies) are regulated by the Swiss government and are kept quite low. It is IMO the best private system in the world. The best public system? The French IMO. Either would be a good model depending on your political bent. Ours will be neither, the insurance companies will continue to do as they please, they will continue to price however they see fit, they will continue to deny you service if you get sick, they will continue to charge you and arm and a leg if you have any sort of pre-existing condition, etc… I’m sure the bill will say they can’t do some of these things but if you believe they’re going to stop, you’ll believe anything. They run the show and they’ll get what they want.
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ParticipantSwitzerland, which has a system the most similar to the proposed reform, has neither one of those problems.
The Swiss system has several provisions that our new system does not. Without these provisions we will still be getting expensive, crappy care. The only difference will be that more of us will have it and those that don’t can be thrown in the pokey. What are the differences?
1) The Swiss government defines what a health insurance policy is, what it will pay for (almost everything BTW), and how much it costs.
2) The Swiss government will revoke the license of an insurance company for denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, for revoking the policy after someone gets sick, etc…
Essentially, the Swiss system is an extremely highly regulated private system. Health insurance provider profits (for the baseline policies) are regulated by the Swiss government and are kept quite low. It is IMO the best private system in the world. The best public system? The French IMO. Either would be a good model depending on your political bent. Ours will be neither, the insurance companies will continue to do as they please, they will continue to price however they see fit, they will continue to deny you service if you get sick, they will continue to charge you and arm and a leg if you have any sort of pre-existing condition, etc… I’m sure the bill will say they can’t do some of these things but if you believe they’re going to stop, you’ll believe anything. They run the show and they’ll get what they want.
blahblahblah
ParticipantSwitzerland, which has a system the most similar to the proposed reform, has neither one of those problems.
The Swiss system has several provisions that our new system does not. Without these provisions we will still be getting expensive, crappy care. The only difference will be that more of us will have it and those that don’t can be thrown in the pokey. What are the differences?
1) The Swiss government defines what a health insurance policy is, what it will pay for (almost everything BTW), and how much it costs.
2) The Swiss government will revoke the license of an insurance company for denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, for revoking the policy after someone gets sick, etc…
Essentially, the Swiss system is an extremely highly regulated private system. Health insurance provider profits (for the baseline policies) are regulated by the Swiss government and are kept quite low. It is IMO the best private system in the world. The best public system? The French IMO. Either would be a good model depending on your political bent. Ours will be neither, the insurance companies will continue to do as they please, they will continue to price however they see fit, they will continue to deny you service if you get sick, they will continue to charge you and arm and a leg if you have any sort of pre-existing condition, etc… I’m sure the bill will say they can’t do some of these things but if you believe they’re going to stop, you’ll believe anything. They run the show and they’ll get what they want.
blahblahblah
ParticipantSwitzerland, which has a system the most similar to the proposed reform, has neither one of those problems.
The Swiss system has several provisions that our new system does not. Without these provisions we will still be getting expensive, crappy care. The only difference will be that more of us will have it and those that don’t can be thrown in the pokey. What are the differences?
1) The Swiss government defines what a health insurance policy is, what it will pay for (almost everything BTW), and how much it costs.
2) The Swiss government will revoke the license of an insurance company for denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, for revoking the policy after someone gets sick, etc…
Essentially, the Swiss system is an extremely highly regulated private system. Health insurance provider profits (for the baseline policies) are regulated by the Swiss government and are kept quite low. It is IMO the best private system in the world. The best public system? The French IMO. Either would be a good model depending on your political bent. Ours will be neither, the insurance companies will continue to do as they please, they will continue to price however they see fit, they will continue to deny you service if you get sick, they will continue to charge you and arm and a leg if you have any sort of pre-existing condition, etc… I’m sure the bill will say they can’t do some of these things but if you believe they’re going to stop, you’ll believe anything. They run the show and they’ll get what they want.
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ParticipantI don’t know many married men that – if they could snap their fingers tomorrow and keep their money and kids and not have a messy divorce – wouldn’t want a divorce. Instead, they endure… and screw around discreetly.
Sounds like you hang out with a bunch of assholes.
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ParticipantI don’t know many married men that – if they could snap their fingers tomorrow and keep their money and kids and not have a messy divorce – wouldn’t want a divorce. Instead, they endure… and screw around discreetly.
Sounds like you hang out with a bunch of assholes.
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ParticipantI don’t know many married men that – if they could snap their fingers tomorrow and keep their money and kids and not have a messy divorce – wouldn’t want a divorce. Instead, they endure… and screw around discreetly.
Sounds like you hang out with a bunch of assholes.
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