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[quote=briansd1]
That’s a policy problem that has nothing to do with globalization. Blaming globalization and foreigners won’t get you anywhere. Focus on the policies.[/quote]

Excellent! I had forgotten that one, let’s add it to the list:

* If you don’t support policies which make it favorable for US companies to move jobs abroad where there are fewer worker’s rights, lower safety standards, and fewer environmental protections, you are “blaming foreigners”!

Nice one. That will pretty much put a stop to any debate and we can “win” at that point. No one wants to be accused of “blaming foreigners!” Heh heh heh we win.

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[quote=briansd1]
That’s a policy problem that has nothing to do with globalization. Blaming globalization and foreigners won’t get you anywhere. Focus on the policies.[/quote]

Excellent! I had forgotten that one, let’s add it to the list:

* If you don’t support policies which make it favorable for US companies to move jobs abroad where there are fewer worker’s rights, lower safety standards, and fewer environmental protections, you are “blaming foreigners”!

Nice one. That will pretty much put a stop to any debate and we can “win” at that point. No one wants to be accused of “blaming foreigners!” Heh heh heh we win.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=Ren]
$3/gallon:
10 miles each/day $40 total
90 miles each/day $360 total

$5/gallon:
10 miles each/day $65 total
90 miles each/day $600 total

At $5/gallon, that’s $500+ more than the SD commuter, plus the car depreciation which is negligible. Meanwhile we’re saving $1,500+/month over renting an equivalent place in SD, plus $200 in child care. We just couldn’t get past that math – the gas expense isn’t even an issue. It’s the time away from family that’s the hard choice.

If your income is substantial enough that $1,000-1,500 in savings every month isn’t a big deal, or the drive is unacceptable, then SD is a better choice for you.[/quote]

Not everything has a dollar value — at 90 miles per day versus 10 miles per day, you are 9 times more likely to be in an automobile accident. And since much of that is on high-speed roads, if it occurs it is likely to be a doozy. Of course it will never happen to me because I am an excellent driver. And even if it does my Mercedes is of excellent quality and I will not be harmed.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=Ren]
$3/gallon:
10 miles each/day $40 total
90 miles each/day $360 total

$5/gallon:
10 miles each/day $65 total
90 miles each/day $600 total

At $5/gallon, that’s $500+ more than the SD commuter, plus the car depreciation which is negligible. Meanwhile we’re saving $1,500+/month over renting an equivalent place in SD, plus $200 in child care. We just couldn’t get past that math – the gas expense isn’t even an issue. It’s the time away from family that’s the hard choice.

If your income is substantial enough that $1,000-1,500 in savings every month isn’t a big deal, or the drive is unacceptable, then SD is a better choice for you.[/quote]

Not everything has a dollar value — at 90 miles per day versus 10 miles per day, you are 9 times more likely to be in an automobile accident. And since much of that is on high-speed roads, if it occurs it is likely to be a doozy. Of course it will never happen to me because I am an excellent driver. And even if it does my Mercedes is of excellent quality and I will not be harmed.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=Ren]
$3/gallon:
10 miles each/day $40 total
90 miles each/day $360 total

$5/gallon:
10 miles each/day $65 total
90 miles each/day $600 total

At $5/gallon, that’s $500+ more than the SD commuter, plus the car depreciation which is negligible. Meanwhile we’re saving $1,500+/month over renting an equivalent place in SD, plus $200 in child care. We just couldn’t get past that math – the gas expense isn’t even an issue. It’s the time away from family that’s the hard choice.

If your income is substantial enough that $1,000-1,500 in savings every month isn’t a big deal, or the drive is unacceptable, then SD is a better choice for you.[/quote]

Not everything has a dollar value — at 90 miles per day versus 10 miles per day, you are 9 times more likely to be in an automobile accident. And since much of that is on high-speed roads, if it occurs it is likely to be a doozy. Of course it will never happen to me because I am an excellent driver. And even if it does my Mercedes is of excellent quality and I will not be harmed.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=Ren]
$3/gallon:
10 miles each/day $40 total
90 miles each/day $360 total

$5/gallon:
10 miles each/day $65 total
90 miles each/day $600 total

At $5/gallon, that’s $500+ more than the SD commuter, plus the car depreciation which is negligible. Meanwhile we’re saving $1,500+/month over renting an equivalent place in SD, plus $200 in child care. We just couldn’t get past that math – the gas expense isn’t even an issue. It’s the time away from family that’s the hard choice.

If your income is substantial enough that $1,000-1,500 in savings every month isn’t a big deal, or the drive is unacceptable, then SD is a better choice for you.[/quote]

Not everything has a dollar value — at 90 miles per day versus 10 miles per day, you are 9 times more likely to be in an automobile accident. And since much of that is on high-speed roads, if it occurs it is likely to be a doozy. Of course it will never happen to me because I am an excellent driver. And even if it does my Mercedes is of excellent quality and I will not be harmed.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=Ren]
$3/gallon:
10 miles each/day $40 total
90 miles each/day $360 total

$5/gallon:
10 miles each/day $65 total
90 miles each/day $600 total

At $5/gallon, that’s $500+ more than the SD commuter, plus the car depreciation which is negligible. Meanwhile we’re saving $1,500+/month over renting an equivalent place in SD, plus $200 in child care. We just couldn’t get past that math – the gas expense isn’t even an issue. It’s the time away from family that’s the hard choice.

If your income is substantial enough that $1,000-1,500 in savings every month isn’t a big deal, or the drive is unacceptable, then SD is a better choice for you.[/quote]

Not everything has a dollar value — at 90 miles per day versus 10 miles per day, you are 9 times more likely to be in an automobile accident. And since much of that is on high-speed roads, if it occurs it is likely to be a doozy. Of course it will never happen to me because I am an excellent driver. And even if it does my Mercedes is of excellent quality and I will not be harmed.

[blahblahblah]

In summary:

* Poor Americans aren’t really poor because there are people dying of disease and malnutrition somewhere else. Since they are better off than these people, they really have nothing to complain about.

* Poor Americans aren’t actually poor because a hundred years ago poor people couldn’t have a TV or a flush commode. Poor Americans now have both! They’re rich! What a bunch of whiners.

* There is no poverty in America. I certainly don’t see any on my commute between Encinitas and Sorrento Valley.

* Poor Americans are greedy and want free houses in Encinitas without working. Therefore all American jobs deserve to be shipped to China. Except for mine of course, Chinese people aren’t smart enough to be a (choose one) financial adviser/tax accountant/day trader/middle manager/real estate agent.

* Globalization is helping poor people in places like China by giving them jobs with no worker protection, safety, or environmental standards.

* Globalization is unstoppable and Americans are addicted to cheap goods so we must continue on our current course. What we need is more outsourcing, more movement of capital out of the US so that we can continue importing cheap furniture and cheap TVs. We’re addicted to this stuff! Everyone knows that the cure for addiction is to simply have more of whatever it is you’re addicted to.

* Anyone who uses the word “deserve” or “fair” in their argument is childish, since only children use these words. Children like Benjamin Franklin – “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” or Eleanor Roosevelt – “It is not fair to ask of others what you are not willing to do yourself. ”

[blahblahblah]

In summary:

* Poor Americans aren’t really poor because there are people dying of disease and malnutrition somewhere else. Since they are better off than these people, they really have nothing to complain about.

* Poor Americans aren’t actually poor because a hundred years ago poor people couldn’t have a TV or a flush commode. Poor Americans now have both! They’re rich! What a bunch of whiners.

* There is no poverty in America. I certainly don’t see any on my commute between Encinitas and Sorrento Valley.

* Poor Americans are greedy and want free houses in Encinitas without working. Therefore all American jobs deserve to be shipped to China. Except for mine of course, Chinese people aren’t smart enough to be a (choose one) financial adviser/tax accountant/day trader/middle manager/real estate agent.

* Globalization is helping poor people in places like China by giving them jobs with no worker protection, safety, or environmental standards.

* Globalization is unstoppable and Americans are addicted to cheap goods so we must continue on our current course. What we need is more outsourcing, more movement of capital out of the US so that we can continue importing cheap furniture and cheap TVs. We’re addicted to this stuff! Everyone knows that the cure for addiction is to simply have more of whatever it is you’re addicted to.

* Anyone who uses the word “deserve” or “fair” in their argument is childish, since only children use these words. Children like Benjamin Franklin – “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” or Eleanor Roosevelt – “It is not fair to ask of others what you are not willing to do yourself. ”

[blahblahblah]

In summary:

* Poor Americans aren’t really poor because there are people dying of disease and malnutrition somewhere else. Since they are better off than these people, they really have nothing to complain about.

* Poor Americans aren’t actually poor because a hundred years ago poor people couldn’t have a TV or a flush commode. Poor Americans now have both! They’re rich! What a bunch of whiners.

* There is no poverty in America. I certainly don’t see any on my commute between Encinitas and Sorrento Valley.

* Poor Americans are greedy and want free houses in Encinitas without working. Therefore all American jobs deserve to be shipped to China. Except for mine of course, Chinese people aren’t smart enough to be a (choose one) financial adviser/tax accountant/day trader/middle manager/real estate agent.

* Globalization is helping poor people in places like China by giving them jobs with no worker protection, safety, or environmental standards.

* Globalization is unstoppable and Americans are addicted to cheap goods so we must continue on our current course. What we need is more outsourcing, more movement of capital out of the US so that we can continue importing cheap furniture and cheap TVs. We’re addicted to this stuff! Everyone knows that the cure for addiction is to simply have more of whatever it is you’re addicted to.

* Anyone who uses the word “deserve” or “fair” in their argument is childish, since only children use these words. Children like Benjamin Franklin – “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” or Eleanor Roosevelt – “It is not fair to ask of others what you are not willing to do yourself. ”

[blahblahblah]

In summary:

* Poor Americans aren’t really poor because there are people dying of disease and malnutrition somewhere else. Since they are better off than these people, they really have nothing to complain about.

* Poor Americans aren’t actually poor because a hundred years ago poor people couldn’t have a TV or a flush commode. Poor Americans now have both! They’re rich! What a bunch of whiners.

* There is no poverty in America. I certainly don’t see any on my commute between Encinitas and Sorrento Valley.

* Poor Americans are greedy and want free houses in Encinitas without working. Therefore all American jobs deserve to be shipped to China. Except for mine of course, Chinese people aren’t smart enough to be a (choose one) financial adviser/tax accountant/day trader/middle manager/real estate agent.

* Globalization is helping poor people in places like China by giving them jobs with no worker protection, safety, or environmental standards.

* Globalization is unstoppable and Americans are addicted to cheap goods so we must continue on our current course. What we need is more outsourcing, more movement of capital out of the US so that we can continue importing cheap furniture and cheap TVs. We’re addicted to this stuff! Everyone knows that the cure for addiction is to simply have more of whatever it is you’re addicted to.

* Anyone who uses the word “deserve” or “fair” in their argument is childish, since only children use these words. Children like Benjamin Franklin – “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” or Eleanor Roosevelt – “It is not fair to ask of others what you are not willing to do yourself. ”

[blahblahblah]

In summary:

* Poor Americans aren’t really poor because there are people dying of disease and malnutrition somewhere else. Since they are better off than these people, they really have nothing to complain about.

* Poor Americans aren’t actually poor because a hundred years ago poor people couldn’t have a TV or a flush commode. Poor Americans now have both! They’re rich! What a bunch of whiners.

* There is no poverty in America. I certainly don’t see any on my commute between Encinitas and Sorrento Valley.

* Poor Americans are greedy and want free houses in Encinitas without working. Therefore all American jobs deserve to be shipped to China. Except for mine of course, Chinese people aren’t smart enough to be a (choose one) financial adviser/tax accountant/day trader/middle manager/real estate agent.

* Globalization is helping poor people in places like China by giving them jobs with no worker protection, safety, or environmental standards.

* Globalization is unstoppable and Americans are addicted to cheap goods so we must continue on our current course. What we need is more outsourcing, more movement of capital out of the US so that we can continue importing cheap furniture and cheap TVs. We’re addicted to this stuff! Everyone knows that the cure for addiction is to simply have more of whatever it is you’re addicted to.

* Anyone who uses the word “deserve” or “fair” in their argument is childish, since only children use these words. Children like Benjamin Franklin – “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” or Eleanor Roosevelt – “It is not fair to ask of others what you are not willing to do yourself. ”

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1]
But I don’t have much sympathy for somebody who blames globalization because he can’t afford to buy a house in Encinitas. What’s wrong with renting an apartment in an affordable area? Or moving to where houses are cheap? This person is living a very rich lifestyle compared to most in the world.[/quote]

I agree 100%, but I don’t think that has anything to do with the loss of millions of jobs due to outsourcing/relocation? There are jerks everywhere that don’t want to work but feel entitled to a nice lifestyle. Ever met a French waiter? Just kidding, their restaurants are great.

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[quote=briansd1]
But I don’t have much sympathy for somebody who blames globalization because he can’t afford to buy a house in Encinitas. What’s wrong with renting an apartment in an affordable area? Or moving to where houses are cheap? This person is living a very rich lifestyle compared to most in the world.[/quote]

I agree 100%, but I don’t think that has anything to do with the loss of millions of jobs due to outsourcing/relocation? There are jerks everywhere that don’t want to work but feel entitled to a nice lifestyle. Ever met a French waiter? Just kidding, their restaurants are great.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1]
But I don’t have much sympathy for somebody who blames globalization because he can’t afford to buy a house in Encinitas. What’s wrong with renting an apartment in an affordable area? Or moving to where houses are cheap? This person is living a very rich lifestyle compared to most in the world.[/quote]

I agree 100%, but I don’t think that has anything to do with the loss of millions of jobs due to outsourcing/relocation? There are jerks everywhere that don’t want to work but feel entitled to a nice lifestyle. Ever met a French waiter? Just kidding, their restaurants are great.

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