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You’re kidding right? I know people several miles off the flight path in Point Loma who have installed ACs in their house because they use to keep their windows open all summer and could no longer bear the sound of aircraft anymore. I have known 2 couples that moved from Point Loma to somewhere else because of the noise. One couple moved to North Mission Beach and still installed AC in the house because of the aircraft noise. So why would NOT being directly under the flight path make that much difference?[/quote]

Ahhh, looks like it’s time for an Aircraft Fundamentals 101 refresher. You always want to take off into the wind, and in San Diego that means taking off towards the ocean over 90% of the time. At take off the plane needs to produce a lot of power very quickly to gain as much altitude as possible. Altitude=Safety in the world of aviation because the higher you are, the more time and options you have to deal with any issues that may occur. Much of Point Loma is underneath this 90+% takeoff route and the jets will have their engines at high power until they are up a few thousand feet. This is why the aircraft are so loud in PL even when they are pretty high up, they are still climbing.

On landing the pilot has the opposite problem, he needs to reduce speed as much as possible while preserving his options in case of emergency. This means cutting the engine power way down. It is true that the jets directly overhead on the Lindbergh landing path are really, really loud, but if you just go a few blocks in either direction they are much less noticeable.

Of course there is that -10% of the time where the winds change here and takeoff/landing directions are reversed. In those cases, PL gets a break and enjoys the quiet idling engines as they glide in for a landing, and Mission Hills/Hillcrest/Banker’s Hill gets the full-on roar of the big turbines at takeoff.

So being in the flight path can mean different things at different times. Better to be in the landing path than the takeoff path IMO, especially here where the directions rarely reverse. That said, I would NEVER want to live right under the landing path, it is really, really loud.

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You’re kidding right? I know people several miles off the flight path in Point Loma who have installed ACs in their house because they use to keep their windows open all summer and could no longer bear the sound of aircraft anymore. I have known 2 couples that moved from Point Loma to somewhere else because of the noise. One couple moved to North Mission Beach and still installed AC in the house because of the aircraft noise. So why would NOT being directly under the flight path make that much difference?[/quote]

Ahhh, looks like it’s time for an Aircraft Fundamentals 101 refresher. You always want to take off into the wind, and in San Diego that means taking off towards the ocean over 90% of the time. At take off the plane needs to produce a lot of power very quickly to gain as much altitude as possible. Altitude=Safety in the world of aviation because the higher you are, the more time and options you have to deal with any issues that may occur. Much of Point Loma is underneath this 90+% takeoff route and the jets will have their engines at high power until they are up a few thousand feet. This is why the aircraft are so loud in PL even when they are pretty high up, they are still climbing.

On landing the pilot has the opposite problem, he needs to reduce speed as much as possible while preserving his options in case of emergency. This means cutting the engine power way down. It is true that the jets directly overhead on the Lindbergh landing path are really, really loud, but if you just go a few blocks in either direction they are much less noticeable.

Of course there is that -10% of the time where the winds change here and takeoff/landing directions are reversed. In those cases, PL gets a break and enjoys the quiet idling engines as they glide in for a landing, and Mission Hills/Hillcrest/Banker’s Hill gets the full-on roar of the big turbines at takeoff.

So being in the flight path can mean different things at different times. Better to be in the landing path than the takeoff path IMO, especially here where the directions rarely reverse. That said, I would NEVER want to live right under the landing path, it is really, really loud.

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Someone got a good deal on that Columbia house. $325/sf for that location and quality of construction is excellent. Nice view from the roof deck as well. I am surprised that it didn’t sell for $800K at least.

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Someone got a good deal on that Columbia house. $325/sf for that location and quality of construction is excellent. Nice view from the roof deck as well. I am surprised that it didn’t sell for $800K at least.

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Someone got a good deal on that Columbia house. $325/sf for that location and quality of construction is excellent. Nice view from the roof deck as well. I am surprised that it didn’t sell for $800K at least.

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Someone got a good deal on that Columbia house. $325/sf for that location and quality of construction is excellent. Nice view from the roof deck as well. I am surprised that it didn’t sell for $800K at least.

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Someone got a good deal on that Columbia house. $325/sf for that location and quality of construction is excellent. Nice view from the roof deck as well. I am surprised that it didn’t sell for $800K at least.

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Things are going to decline very slowly there for a very long time. You have a lot of established people there who will sit out rather than sell and move up, you have a huge pool of people who want to live there and will stretch to afford it when the right place becomes available. It’s a recipe for frustration if you are looking to buy there. On the positive side, there are probably some deals if you’re willing to entertain less-than-optimal properties, like those with only 1000sf or no garage, etc… But if you’re looking for the holy grail in 92103, 1500sf+ SFH with a yard and a 2 car garage, you will probably have to pay up or wait a long time.

You might check out North/South Park, prices seem to be coming down there faster and there are some great houses, a lot more supply of quality places than in 92103. NP/SP is getting nicer all the time, in some ways I prefer SP to Mission Hills.

I bought in 2009 in 92103 because I didn’t want to have to keep waiting and I was sick of the place I was renting. I was worried about renting another place, you never know if your landlord is a scam artist/flipper/conman/whatever and I didn’t want to wake up to the sheriff banging on the door with a foreclosure notice. I’m sure my house has declined 10% since I bought it, but who cares I’m not going anywhere.

I predict falling prices in the good central neighborhoods for several more years but of course I’ve been wrong in the past.

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Things are going to decline very slowly there for a very long time. You have a lot of established people there who will sit out rather than sell and move up, you have a huge pool of people who want to live there and will stretch to afford it when the right place becomes available. It’s a recipe for frustration if you are looking to buy there. On the positive side, there are probably some deals if you’re willing to entertain less-than-optimal properties, like those with only 1000sf or no garage, etc… But if you’re looking for the holy grail in 92103, 1500sf+ SFH with a yard and a 2 car garage, you will probably have to pay up or wait a long time.

You might check out North/South Park, prices seem to be coming down there faster and there are some great houses, a lot more supply of quality places than in 92103. NP/SP is getting nicer all the time, in some ways I prefer SP to Mission Hills.

I bought in 2009 in 92103 because I didn’t want to have to keep waiting and I was sick of the place I was renting. I was worried about renting another place, you never know if your landlord is a scam artist/flipper/conman/whatever and I didn’t want to wake up to the sheriff banging on the door with a foreclosure notice. I’m sure my house has declined 10% since I bought it, but who cares I’m not going anywhere.

I predict falling prices in the good central neighborhoods for several more years but of course I’ve been wrong in the past.

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Things are going to decline very slowly there for a very long time. You have a lot of established people there who will sit out rather than sell and move up, you have a huge pool of people who want to live there and will stretch to afford it when the right place becomes available. It’s a recipe for frustration if you are looking to buy there. On the positive side, there are probably some deals if you’re willing to entertain less-than-optimal properties, like those with only 1000sf or no garage, etc… But if you’re looking for the holy grail in 92103, 1500sf+ SFH with a yard and a 2 car garage, you will probably have to pay up or wait a long time.

You might check out North/South Park, prices seem to be coming down there faster and there are some great houses, a lot more supply of quality places than in 92103. NP/SP is getting nicer all the time, in some ways I prefer SP to Mission Hills.

I bought in 2009 in 92103 because I didn’t want to have to keep waiting and I was sick of the place I was renting. I was worried about renting another place, you never know if your landlord is a scam artist/flipper/conman/whatever and I didn’t want to wake up to the sheriff banging on the door with a foreclosure notice. I’m sure my house has declined 10% since I bought it, but who cares I’m not going anywhere.

I predict falling prices in the good central neighborhoods for several more years but of course I’ve been wrong in the past.

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Things are going to decline very slowly there for a very long time. You have a lot of established people there who will sit out rather than sell and move up, you have a huge pool of people who want to live there and will stretch to afford it when the right place becomes available. It’s a recipe for frustration if you are looking to buy there. On the positive side, there are probably some deals if you’re willing to entertain less-than-optimal properties, like those with only 1000sf or no garage, etc… But if you’re looking for the holy grail in 92103, 1500sf+ SFH with a yard and a 2 car garage, you will probably have to pay up or wait a long time.

You might check out North/South Park, prices seem to be coming down there faster and there are some great houses, a lot more supply of quality places than in 92103. NP/SP is getting nicer all the time, in some ways I prefer SP to Mission Hills.

I bought in 2009 in 92103 because I didn’t want to have to keep waiting and I was sick of the place I was renting. I was worried about renting another place, you never know if your landlord is a scam artist/flipper/conman/whatever and I didn’t want to wake up to the sheriff banging on the door with a foreclosure notice. I’m sure my house has declined 10% since I bought it, but who cares I’m not going anywhere.

I predict falling prices in the good central neighborhoods for several more years but of course I’ve been wrong in the past.

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Things are going to decline very slowly there for a very long time. You have a lot of established people there who will sit out rather than sell and move up, you have a huge pool of people who want to live there and will stretch to afford it when the right place becomes available. It’s a recipe for frustration if you are looking to buy there. On the positive side, there are probably some deals if you’re willing to entertain less-than-optimal properties, like those with only 1000sf or no garage, etc… But if you’re looking for the holy grail in 92103, 1500sf+ SFH with a yard and a 2 car garage, you will probably have to pay up or wait a long time.

You might check out North/South Park, prices seem to be coming down there faster and there are some great houses, a lot more supply of quality places than in 92103. NP/SP is getting nicer all the time, in some ways I prefer SP to Mission Hills.

I bought in 2009 in 92103 because I didn’t want to have to keep waiting and I was sick of the place I was renting. I was worried about renting another place, you never know if your landlord is a scam artist/flipper/conman/whatever and I didn’t want to wake up to the sheriff banging on the door with a foreclosure notice. I’m sure my house has declined 10% since I bought it, but who cares I’m not going anywhere.

I predict falling prices in the good central neighborhoods for several more years but of course I’ve been wrong in the past.

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This thread is a perfect example of why nothing will change or get better. Look at how people who should all be on the same side are so easily pitted against one another. It is classic divide&conquer and it works every time. Here is the playbook for those that missed it the first time:

1) Declare war on private sector employees using insourcing/outsourcing, elimination of benefits/pensions, etc…

2) Private sector employees quit watching the Super Bowl/Dancing With The Stars on their 60″ flatscreens long enough to notice that they are being screwed. Looking for answers, they switch to Fox News where Glenn Beck tells them that it’s all the fault of greedy public sector workers and unions. They still have benefits and pensions — those greedy bastards!

3) The private sector people start screaming for blood from their public sector counterparts. Much anger and vitriol is released. Politicians move in to establish a consensus – public sector workers will get ass-raped just like their private sector neighbors. Now everyone is equally screwed.

As for the silly comments that there is no difference between some crooked unions shaking someone down for tens of millions and hedge funds and bankers ass-raping the entire country to the tune of trillions, these are orders of magnitude apart. Once you stop handing the country over to the financial interests, once you stop the bleeding, THEN you can deal with the crooked unions. Again, when a bear has got your leg in its mouth, you’d better reach for the axe. Sure those mosquitoes are annoying but wait until the bear is dead before trying to reach the Off spray.

Nothing is going to change. The sheepdogs will keep barking and the sheep will go whatever direction they want them to.

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This thread is a perfect example of why nothing will change or get better. Look at how people who should all be on the same side are so easily pitted against one another. It is classic divide&conquer and it works every time. Here is the playbook for those that missed it the first time:

1) Declare war on private sector employees using insourcing/outsourcing, elimination of benefits/pensions, etc…

2) Private sector employees quit watching the Super Bowl/Dancing With The Stars on their 60″ flatscreens long enough to notice that they are being screwed. Looking for answers, they switch to Fox News where Glenn Beck tells them that it’s all the fault of greedy public sector workers and unions. They still have benefits and pensions — those greedy bastards!

3) The private sector people start screaming for blood from their public sector counterparts. Much anger and vitriol is released. Politicians move in to establish a consensus – public sector workers will get ass-raped just like their private sector neighbors. Now everyone is equally screwed.

As for the silly comments that there is no difference between some crooked unions shaking someone down for tens of millions and hedge funds and bankers ass-raping the entire country to the tune of trillions, these are orders of magnitude apart. Once you stop handing the country over to the financial interests, once you stop the bleeding, THEN you can deal with the crooked unions. Again, when a bear has got your leg in its mouth, you’d better reach for the axe. Sure those mosquitoes are annoying but wait until the bear is dead before trying to reach the Off spray.

Nothing is going to change. The sheepdogs will keep barking and the sheep will go whatever direction they want them to.

[blahblahblah]

This thread is a perfect example of why nothing will change or get better. Look at how people who should all be on the same side are so easily pitted against one another. It is classic divide&conquer and it works every time. Here is the playbook for those that missed it the first time:

1) Declare war on private sector employees using insourcing/outsourcing, elimination of benefits/pensions, etc…

2) Private sector employees quit watching the Super Bowl/Dancing With The Stars on their 60″ flatscreens long enough to notice that they are being screwed. Looking for answers, they switch to Fox News where Glenn Beck tells them that it’s all the fault of greedy public sector workers and unions. They still have benefits and pensions — those greedy bastards!

3) The private sector people start screaming for blood from their public sector counterparts. Much anger and vitriol is released. Politicians move in to establish a consensus – public sector workers will get ass-raped just like their private sector neighbors. Now everyone is equally screwed.

As for the silly comments that there is no difference between some crooked unions shaking someone down for tens of millions and hedge funds and bankers ass-raping the entire country to the tune of trillions, these are orders of magnitude apart. Once you stop handing the country over to the financial interests, once you stop the bleeding, THEN you can deal with the crooked unions. Again, when a bear has got your leg in its mouth, you’d better reach for the axe. Sure those mosquitoes are annoying but wait until the bear is dead before trying to reach the Off spray.

Nothing is going to change. The sheepdogs will keep barking and the sheep will go whatever direction they want them to.

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