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ParticipantAllan again you are doing the thing where you’re trying to say that I am excusing the behavior of these pirate criminals. Why are you doing that? I am merely pointing out that this is the latest event in a cycle of criminality that started with European companies and governments using Somalia as a toxic waste dumping ground and fishing free-for-all. My point is that no one is above the law and that we can’t let these Euros off the hook. What is happening here is that these pirates, who are responsible for the deaths of tens or maybe hundreds of people will get lots of press attention and bullets shot their way, while the companies doing the dumping and illegal fishing will be left completely alone while their actions are responsible for the death and misery of tens of thousands or more.
The “civilized” countries must take the high ground and stop breaking the law if they expect the “savage” countries to follow their lead. In the meantime a few pirates must get bullets in the head, which is sad but unfortunately necessary.
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ParticipantI would take their claims of nuclear waste dumping (and other fanatical claims as well) with a grain of NaCL because these are the people who refuse vaccinations on the idea that the U.S. is giving them AIDS.
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I’m not taking the Somalis word for it, I’m taking the United Nations Environment Programme’s word for it.
Article about the dumping in the Times Online UK
And the original UNEP Report with recommendations and references
Found in about 3 seconds of googling.
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ParticipantI would take their claims of nuclear waste dumping (and other fanatical claims as well) with a grain of NaCL because these are the people who refuse vaccinations on the idea that the U.S. is giving them AIDS.
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I’m not taking the Somalis word for it, I’m taking the United Nations Environment Programme’s word for it.
Article about the dumping in the Times Online UK
And the original UNEP Report with recommendations and references
Found in about 3 seconds of googling.
blahblahblah
ParticipantI would take their claims of nuclear waste dumping (and other fanatical claims as well) with a grain of NaCL because these are the people who refuse vaccinations on the idea that the U.S. is giving them AIDS.
FAIL
I’m not taking the Somalis word for it, I’m taking the United Nations Environment Programme’s word for it.
Article about the dumping in the Times Online UK
And the original UNEP Report with recommendations and references
Found in about 3 seconds of googling.
blahblahblah
ParticipantI would take their claims of nuclear waste dumping (and other fanatical claims as well) with a grain of NaCL because these are the people who refuse vaccinations on the idea that the U.S. is giving them AIDS.
FAIL
I’m not taking the Somalis word for it, I’m taking the United Nations Environment Programme’s word for it.
Article about the dumping in the Times Online UK
And the original UNEP Report with recommendations and references
Found in about 3 seconds of googling.
blahblahblah
ParticipantI would take their claims of nuclear waste dumping (and other fanatical claims as well) with a grain of NaCL because these are the people who refuse vaccinations on the idea that the U.S. is giving them AIDS.
FAIL
I’m not taking the Somalis word for it, I’m taking the United Nations Environment Programme’s word for it.
Article about the dumping in the Times Online UK
And the original UNEP Report with recommendations and references
Found in about 3 seconds of googling.
blahblahblah
ParticipantNot excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.
I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…
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ParticipantNot excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.
I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…
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ParticipantNot excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.
I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…
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ParticipantNot excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.
I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…
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ParticipantNot excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.
I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…
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ParticipantIn the new system, mortgages aren’t supposed to be paid off. “Homebuyers” are supposed to die after making decades of payments with a still substantial balance remaining, leaving the property to the bank to then sell to the next sucker, er umm. “Homeowner”. This is the reason for home equity loans, no-money-down, etc… And now with government bailouts, the banks just can’t lose. Think of it like buying in England and getting a 99-year leasehold from the Queen who actually owns everything. Here we don’t have a Queen, we just have the banks who actually own everything.
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ParticipantIn the new system, mortgages aren’t supposed to be paid off. “Homebuyers” are supposed to die after making decades of payments with a still substantial balance remaining, leaving the property to the bank to then sell to the next sucker, er umm. “Homeowner”. This is the reason for home equity loans, no-money-down, etc… And now with government bailouts, the banks just can’t lose. Think of it like buying in England and getting a 99-year leasehold from the Queen who actually owns everything. Here we don’t have a Queen, we just have the banks who actually own everything.
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ParticipantIn the new system, mortgages aren’t supposed to be paid off. “Homebuyers” are supposed to die after making decades of payments with a still substantial balance remaining, leaving the property to the bank to then sell to the next sucker, er umm. “Homeowner”. This is the reason for home equity loans, no-money-down, etc… And now with government bailouts, the banks just can’t lose. Think of it like buying in England and getting a 99-year leasehold from the Queen who actually owns everything. Here we don’t have a Queen, we just have the banks who actually own everything.
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