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Participant[quote=briansd1]. . . Good documentary:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/collegeinc/econprof is right, an adjustment is good.[/quote]
I read part of the commentary and will look at the video tonight.
These “for-profit” vocational schools and Ph.D internet mills are the WORST, IMO.
Many of these vocational schools claim to have contacts in the industry and can place their students into FT employment upon graduation. This is a crock. They make these grandiose promises to potential students to sign them up and get their student loan proceeds. I’ve never seen anyone obtain a job from these schools’ “placement services.” When I worked for local government, I once had a supervisor/mgr who taught ROP classes at a local community college. She encouraged some of her graduates to apply for entry-level openings at local agencies and some DID get hired. Cost for program? $0. Most of her students were single moms who were getting free child care while they went to school and then worked their way off the welfare system.
Participant[quote=briansd1]. . . Good documentary:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/collegeinc/econprof is right, an adjustment is good.[/quote]
I read part of the commentary and will look at the video tonight.
These “for-profit” vocational schools and Ph.D internet mills are the WORST, IMO.
Many of these vocational schools claim to have contacts in the industry and can place their students into FT employment upon graduation. This is a crock. They make these grandiose promises to potential students to sign them up and get their student loan proceeds. I’ve never seen anyone obtain a job from these schools’ “placement services.” When I worked for local government, I once had a supervisor/mgr who taught ROP classes at a local community college. She encouraged some of her graduates to apply for entry-level openings at local agencies and some DID get hired. Cost for program? $0. Most of her students were single moms who were getting free child care while they went to school and then worked their way off the welfare system.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]. . . Much of their food came from dumpster diving. They know exactly when the bakery and produce stores throw out their unsalable stuff. The used clothing stores in downtown Santa Cruz are packed with students every weekend…[/quote]
SK, I don’t think “dumpster diving” is doable for a college student living in urban SD County. On my once or twice weekly early-morning treks to the major supermarkets in search of just marked-down items, I frequently see Father Joe’s “moving vans” backing into the loading docks of Vons, Albertsons and Henry’s. I have no doubt that FJ’s picks up at local restaurants as well.
There must not be very much of a homeless population in Santa Cruz.
My kid got a lot of very good-quality clothing at “consignment shops” in SF. The city is full of them.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]. . . Much of their food came from dumpster diving. They know exactly when the bakery and produce stores throw out their unsalable stuff. The used clothing stores in downtown Santa Cruz are packed with students every weekend…[/quote]
SK, I don’t think “dumpster diving” is doable for a college student living in urban SD County. On my once or twice weekly early-morning treks to the major supermarkets in search of just marked-down items, I frequently see Father Joe’s “moving vans” backing into the loading docks of Vons, Albertsons and Henry’s. I have no doubt that FJ’s picks up at local restaurants as well.
There must not be very much of a homeless population in Santa Cruz.
My kid got a lot of very good-quality clothing at “consignment shops” in SF. The city is full of them.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]. . . Much of their food came from dumpster diving. They know exactly when the bakery and produce stores throw out their unsalable stuff. The used clothing stores in downtown Santa Cruz are packed with students every weekend…[/quote]
SK, I don’t think “dumpster diving” is doable for a college student living in urban SD County. On my once or twice weekly early-morning treks to the major supermarkets in search of just marked-down items, I frequently see Father Joe’s “moving vans” backing into the loading docks of Vons, Albertsons and Henry’s. I have no doubt that FJ’s picks up at local restaurants as well.
There must not be very much of a homeless population in Santa Cruz.
My kid got a lot of very good-quality clothing at “consignment shops” in SF. The city is full of them.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]. . . Much of their food came from dumpster diving. They know exactly when the bakery and produce stores throw out their unsalable stuff. The used clothing stores in downtown Santa Cruz are packed with students every weekend…[/quote]
SK, I don’t think “dumpster diving” is doable for a college student living in urban SD County. On my once or twice weekly early-morning treks to the major supermarkets in search of just marked-down items, I frequently see Father Joe’s “moving vans” backing into the loading docks of Vons, Albertsons and Henry’s. I have no doubt that FJ’s picks up at local restaurants as well.
There must not be very much of a homeless population in Santa Cruz.
My kid got a lot of very good-quality clothing at “consignment shops” in SF. The city is full of them.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]. . . Much of their food came from dumpster diving. They know exactly when the bakery and produce stores throw out their unsalable stuff. The used clothing stores in downtown Santa Cruz are packed with students every weekend…[/quote]
SK, I don’t think “dumpster diving” is doable for a college student living in urban SD County. On my once or twice weekly early-morning treks to the major supermarkets in search of just marked-down items, I frequently see Father Joe’s “moving vans” backing into the loading docks of Vons, Albertsons and Henry’s. I have no doubt that FJ’s picks up at local restaurants as well.
There must not be very much of a homeless population in Santa Cruz.
My kid got a lot of very good-quality clothing at “consignment shops” in SF. The city is full of them.
Participant[quote=SK in CV] . . . Not a lot different than when I was in college, when my first semester cost $200 including books. And we ate tuna from a can and a lot of quesadillas.[/quote]
I still eat tuna from a can and quesadillas :=]
Participant[quote=SK in CV] . . . Not a lot different than when I was in college, when my first semester cost $200 including books. And we ate tuna from a can and a lot of quesadillas.[/quote]
I still eat tuna from a can and quesadillas :=]
Participant[quote=SK in CV] . . . Not a lot different than when I was in college, when my first semester cost $200 including books. And we ate tuna from a can and a lot of quesadillas.[/quote]
I still eat tuna from a can and quesadillas :=]
Participant[quote=SK in CV] . . . Not a lot different than when I was in college, when my first semester cost $200 including books. And we ate tuna from a can and a lot of quesadillas.[/quote]
I still eat tuna from a can and quesadillas :=]
Participant[quote=SK in CV] . . . Not a lot different than when I was in college, when my first semester cost $200 including books. And we ate tuna from a can and a lot of quesadillas.[/quote]
I still eat tuna from a can and quesadillas :=]
Participant[quote=Scarlett]totally true. And nice clothing isn’t necessary. We don’t know how many of those with premium clothes and iphones have students loans and how many don’t – but there seem to be the majority of them. Maybe those with nice clothes do eat top ramen because those are their priorities. So it’s hard to prove one way or the other, who is doing what, but in general student life seems better and more expensive and more people are enjoying better clothes/electronics etc. than when I was in college 20 years ago.[/quote]
Scarlett, it’s just a function of those electronics not being available 20 years ago. Most of these young students are no doubt still on their parents’ cell phone plan. It only costs about $30 month to add an i-phone (incl mandatory services) to a parent’s “family plan.” The parents are paying the bill and probably only paid $100 for their student’s (subsidized) phone.
As far as clothing, etc., I agree. For instance, my own kid(s) carry real designer bags (and also designer knockoffs) as well as wear designer boots. I do not, never have and could care less. They’re also far more picky about clothing than I am. Believe it or not, I still wear their perfectly good old clothing they left at my house years ago :=]
The preferences are generational and also there are many more designer items available now, as well as knockoffs than there were in “yesteryear.”
Participant[quote=Scarlett]totally true. And nice clothing isn’t necessary. We don’t know how many of those with premium clothes and iphones have students loans and how many don’t – but there seem to be the majority of them. Maybe those with nice clothes do eat top ramen because those are their priorities. So it’s hard to prove one way or the other, who is doing what, but in general student life seems better and more expensive and more people are enjoying better clothes/electronics etc. than when I was in college 20 years ago.[/quote]
Scarlett, it’s just a function of those electronics not being available 20 years ago. Most of these young students are no doubt still on their parents’ cell phone plan. It only costs about $30 month to add an i-phone (incl mandatory services) to a parent’s “family plan.” The parents are paying the bill and probably only paid $100 for their student’s (subsidized) phone.
As far as clothing, etc., I agree. For instance, my own kid(s) carry real designer bags (and also designer knockoffs) as well as wear designer boots. I do not, never have and could care less. They’re also far more picky about clothing than I am. Believe it or not, I still wear their perfectly good old clothing they left at my house years ago :=]
The preferences are generational and also there are many more designer items available now, as well as knockoffs than there were in “yesteryear.”
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