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bearishgurl
Participant[quote=briansd1]To build a garage, my guy is quoting me roughly:
$1,500 for plans to submit (include parcel research, looking up setbacks, buildable area, etc…
$500 if he does the permitting process.
He thinks the city fees will be about $1,200 (up to a max of 5 inspections during the building process).
Of course the cost to build the structure is extra.[/quote]
You can buy your own garage plan for $250 – $400. However, it may need to be “tweaked” a bit by a CAD/CAM operator or engineer for your application (about $50 to $250).
That leaves roughly $2000 for dealing with bureaucracy. What’s your time worth to you, brian?? If it were me, for $2K, I might elect to frequent the planning counter (but I’m the “queen” of bureaucracy, lol)!
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=briansd1]To build a garage, my guy is quoting me roughly:
$1,500 for plans to submit (include parcel research, looking up setbacks, buildable area, etc…
$500 if he does the permitting process.
He thinks the city fees will be about $1,200 (up to a max of 5 inspections during the building process).
Of course the cost to build the structure is extra.[/quote]
You can buy your own garage plan for $250 – $400. However, it may need to be “tweaked” a bit by a CAD/CAM operator or engineer for your application (about $50 to $250).
That leaves roughly $2000 for dealing with bureaucracy. What’s your time worth to you, brian?? If it were me, for $2K, I might elect to frequent the planning counter (but I’m the “queen” of bureaucracy, lol)!
bearishgurl
ParticipantIt IS a pain, brian. Get a gizmo to play with/read while you pull a number and wait in lines … that is, after you’ve already submitted plans, filled out copious forms and enough cash has been extorted from you to pay the annual heating and A/C bill on all the temp bldgs/trailers in your local elementary schoolyard :=]
bearishgurl
ParticipantIt IS a pain, brian. Get a gizmo to play with/read while you pull a number and wait in lines … that is, after you’ve already submitted plans, filled out copious forms and enough cash has been extorted from you to pay the annual heating and A/C bill on all the temp bldgs/trailers in your local elementary schoolyard :=]
bearishgurl
ParticipantIt IS a pain, brian. Get a gizmo to play with/read while you pull a number and wait in lines … that is, after you’ve already submitted plans, filled out copious forms and enough cash has been extorted from you to pay the annual heating and A/C bill on all the temp bldgs/trailers in your local elementary schoolyard :=]
bearishgurl
ParticipantIt IS a pain, brian. Get a gizmo to play with/read while you pull a number and wait in lines … that is, after you’ve already submitted plans, filled out copious forms and enough cash has been extorted from you to pay the annual heating and A/C bill on all the temp bldgs/trailers in your local elementary schoolyard :=]
bearishgurl
ParticipantIt IS a pain, brian. Get a gizmo to play with/read while you pull a number and wait in lines … that is, after you’ve already submitted plans, filled out copious forms and enough cash has been extorted from you to pay the annual heating and A/C bill on all the temp bldgs/trailers in your local elementary schoolyard :=]
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]…
“1 in 3 Employers Will Drop Health Benefits After ObamaCare Kicks In, Survey Finds”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/07/1-in-3-employers-will-drop-health-benefits-after-obamacare-fully-kicks-in/#ixzz1OctTjWmf
[/quote]For an employer, it’s w-a-a-a-a-y cheaper to pay the “penalty” of $2,000 per employee annually than provide health insurance (beginning in 2014). I predict the majority of employees will take the cash and NOT get health insurance. When they need care (emergency or otherwise), they will just take their chances that their providers will not be able to collect from them.
This is what has been going on with uninsured motorists in CA for many years who are “supposed” to have “mandatory” liability coverage. We don’t jail persons who owe fines in CA.
Whether or not an employer offers health coverage or not (or drops it) will have no effect on their turnover (if MANY employers in the same area drop coverage). Employees will just grovel and “bottom-feed” to take what they can get. Sad … but I think this is the path employees will (involuntarily) take.
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]…
“1 in 3 Employers Will Drop Health Benefits After ObamaCare Kicks In, Survey Finds”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/07/1-in-3-employers-will-drop-health-benefits-after-obamacare-fully-kicks-in/#ixzz1OctTjWmf
[/quote]For an employer, it’s w-a-a-a-a-y cheaper to pay the “penalty” of $2,000 per employee annually than provide health insurance (beginning in 2014). I predict the majority of employees will take the cash and NOT get health insurance. When they need care (emergency or otherwise), they will just take their chances that their providers will not be able to collect from them.
This is what has been going on with uninsured motorists in CA for many years who are “supposed” to have “mandatory” liability coverage. We don’t jail persons who owe fines in CA.
Whether or not an employer offers health coverage or not (or drops it) will have no effect on their turnover (if MANY employers in the same area drop coverage). Employees will just grovel and “bottom-feed” to take what they can get. Sad … but I think this is the path employees will (involuntarily) take.
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]…
“1 in 3 Employers Will Drop Health Benefits After ObamaCare Kicks In, Survey Finds”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/07/1-in-3-employers-will-drop-health-benefits-after-obamacare-fully-kicks-in/#ixzz1OctTjWmf
[/quote]For an employer, it’s w-a-a-a-a-y cheaper to pay the “penalty” of $2,000 per employee annually than provide health insurance (beginning in 2014). I predict the majority of employees will take the cash and NOT get health insurance. When they need care (emergency or otherwise), they will just take their chances that their providers will not be able to collect from them.
This is what has been going on with uninsured motorists in CA for many years who are “supposed” to have “mandatory” liability coverage. We don’t jail persons who owe fines in CA.
Whether or not an employer offers health coverage or not (or drops it) will have no effect on their turnover (if MANY employers in the same area drop coverage). Employees will just grovel and “bottom-feed” to take what they can get. Sad … but I think this is the path employees will (involuntarily) take.
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]…
“1 in 3 Employers Will Drop Health Benefits After ObamaCare Kicks In, Survey Finds”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/07/1-in-3-employers-will-drop-health-benefits-after-obamacare-fully-kicks-in/#ixzz1OctTjWmf
[/quote]For an employer, it’s w-a-a-a-a-y cheaper to pay the “penalty” of $2,000 per employee annually than provide health insurance (beginning in 2014). I predict the majority of employees will take the cash and NOT get health insurance. When they need care (emergency or otherwise), they will just take their chances that their providers will not be able to collect from them.
This is what has been going on with uninsured motorists in CA for many years who are “supposed” to have “mandatory” liability coverage. We don’t jail persons who owe fines in CA.
Whether or not an employer offers health coverage or not (or drops it) will have no effect on their turnover (if MANY employers in the same area drop coverage). Employees will just grovel and “bottom-feed” to take what they can get. Sad … but I think this is the path employees will (involuntarily) take.
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]…
“1 in 3 Employers Will Drop Health Benefits After ObamaCare Kicks In, Survey Finds”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/07/1-in-3-employers-will-drop-health-benefits-after-obamacare-fully-kicks-in/#ixzz1OctTjWmf
[/quote]For an employer, it’s w-a-a-a-a-y cheaper to pay the “penalty” of $2,000 per employee annually than provide health insurance (beginning in 2014). I predict the majority of employees will take the cash and NOT get health insurance. When they need care (emergency or otherwise), they will just take their chances that their providers will not be able to collect from them.
This is what has been going on with uninsured motorists in CA for many years who are “supposed” to have “mandatory” liability coverage. We don’t jail persons who owe fines in CA.
Whether or not an employer offers health coverage or not (or drops it) will have no effect on their turnover (if MANY employers in the same area drop coverage). Employees will just grovel and “bottom-feed” to take what they can get. Sad … but I think this is the path employees will (involuntarily) take.
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]More accomplishments of the Obama administration:
“1 in 3 Employers Will Drop Health Benefits After ObamaCare Kicks In, Survey Finds”
Zeitgeist, I DO believe this will come to pass. I know several people who are currently employed FT who have “employer-sponsored” health plans. Their co-pays are higher than mine, hospital deductibles are higher than mine, they have LESS “choice” than I do, their drug co-pay is higher than mine, etc. One of them has more taken out of their monthly paycheck for their share of their healthcare premium (themselves only) than the cost of my entire monthly premium! And I have a high deductible health plan (HDHP)! I don’t think some companies/non-profits are getting a good deal at all on health insurance for their employees. Since my policy was individually underwritten, my premium is partially set on the state of MY health (past and present). NOT SO with employer-sponsored health plans where the healthy are obviously subsidizing the sick (in the same group) :={
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]More accomplishments of the Obama administration:
“1 in 3 Employers Will Drop Health Benefits After ObamaCare Kicks In, Survey Finds”
Zeitgeist, I DO believe this will come to pass. I know several people who are currently employed FT who have “employer-sponsored” health plans. Their co-pays are higher than mine, hospital deductibles are higher than mine, they have LESS “choice” than I do, their drug co-pay is higher than mine, etc. One of them has more taken out of their monthly paycheck for their share of their healthcare premium (themselves only) than the cost of my entire monthly premium! And I have a high deductible health plan (HDHP)! I don’t think some companies/non-profits are getting a good deal at all on health insurance for their employees. Since my policy was individually underwritten, my premium is partially set on the state of MY health (past and present). NOT SO with employer-sponsored health plans where the healthy are obviously subsidizing the sick (in the same group) :={
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