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jp, you made a wise choice over a condo. SFR’s typically hold their value much better, even those that need work :=]

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jp, you made a wise choice over a condo. SFR’s typically hold their value much better, even those that need work :=]

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jp, you made a wise choice over a condo. SFR’s typically hold their value much better, even those that need work :=]

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[quote=cvmom]Hooray for downsizing! Since we (family of 4) moved from 3100 to 1300 sq ft a year and a half ago, we have missed NONE of our “stuff”. In fact, my (many fewer) cabinets are much more empty…and it’s a lot easier to find the stuff we DO need. It is worth the effort to pare the possessions that somehow just seem to procreate like rabbits in the cabinets.

And another hooray for fiscal responsibility, which does not necessarily = conservatism. I am a liberal who believes in paying my own way and not buying things if you don’t have the $ (not credit) to buy them. Including real estate.[/quote]

Good for YOU, cvmom! I am a liberal-turned-independent but am in agreement with your entire post :=]

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[quote=cvmom]Hooray for downsizing! Since we (family of 4) moved from 3100 to 1300 sq ft a year and a half ago, we have missed NONE of our “stuff”. In fact, my (many fewer) cabinets are much more empty…and it’s a lot easier to find the stuff we DO need. It is worth the effort to pare the possessions that somehow just seem to procreate like rabbits in the cabinets.

And another hooray for fiscal responsibility, which does not necessarily = conservatism. I am a liberal who believes in paying my own way and not buying things if you don’t have the $ (not credit) to buy them. Including real estate.[/quote]

Good for YOU, cvmom! I am a liberal-turned-independent but am in agreement with your entire post :=]

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[quote=cvmom]Hooray for downsizing! Since we (family of 4) moved from 3100 to 1300 sq ft a year and a half ago, we have missed NONE of our “stuff”. In fact, my (many fewer) cabinets are much more empty…and it’s a lot easier to find the stuff we DO need. It is worth the effort to pare the possessions that somehow just seem to procreate like rabbits in the cabinets.

And another hooray for fiscal responsibility, which does not necessarily = conservatism. I am a liberal who believes in paying my own way and not buying things if you don’t have the $ (not credit) to buy them. Including real estate.[/quote]

Good for YOU, cvmom! I am a liberal-turned-independent but am in agreement with your entire post :=]

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[quote=cvmom]Hooray for downsizing! Since we (family of 4) moved from 3100 to 1300 sq ft a year and a half ago, we have missed NONE of our “stuff”. In fact, my (many fewer) cabinets are much more empty…and it’s a lot easier to find the stuff we DO need. It is worth the effort to pare the possessions that somehow just seem to procreate like rabbits in the cabinets.

And another hooray for fiscal responsibility, which does not necessarily = conservatism. I am a liberal who believes in paying my own way and not buying things if you don’t have the $ (not credit) to buy them. Including real estate.[/quote]

Good for YOU, cvmom! I am a liberal-turned-independent but am in agreement with your entire post :=]

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[quote=cvmom]Hooray for downsizing! Since we (family of 4) moved from 3100 to 1300 sq ft a year and a half ago, we have missed NONE of our “stuff”. In fact, my (many fewer) cabinets are much more empty…and it’s a lot easier to find the stuff we DO need. It is worth the effort to pare the possessions that somehow just seem to procreate like rabbits in the cabinets.

And another hooray for fiscal responsibility, which does not necessarily = conservatism. I am a liberal who believes in paying my own way and not buying things if you don’t have the $ (not credit) to buy them. Including real estate.[/quote]

Good for YOU, cvmom! I am a liberal-turned-independent but am in agreement with your entire post :=]

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[quote=threadkiller]Maybe my mind set is stuck in the ’50s. I’m pretty sure back then anybody with above average wage could buy a nice 3/2 1200 sq ft house in San Diego. What about all the service members that will be getting out of the military? Will they be able to afford to live here in San Diego? Not unless they have their 20 in and then get a job in addition to that retirement. During that 20 years however what were they doing? Unless getting officer pay my bet is they were renting (I do agree their housing allowance is too high, did it go down when homes prices went down, I doubt it). New housing is too expensive here in San Diego, that is my basic premise. Alot of it is because builders build houses that are too big, and if you look at their books I’m sure they are way fatter than my wallet.[/quote]

Actually, TK, in the “’50’s,” even working-class families could purchase the average 1000 – 1200 sf new (or used) home. However, I’ve made this offer before here and it is still on offer, “Would YOU move your family into one of these (unremodeled) homes (built 1947 – 1952)??”

Service members who retire from their last duty station (SD or anywhere) will be moved FREE OF CHARGE by the goverment back to the city or town of the MEPPS station where they first enlisted into the military. Some of these areas no doubt are far cheaper than SD to live in and they may be able to survive on their pensions, alone. Retiring service members have 30 days from their official retirement date to vacate their military housing units (any Pigg please correct me here if this time frame has been lengthened). As a “retiree,” they are no longer eligible for a housing allowance or military housing.

TK, you can’t expect a developer today to build entry level housing when their MR bonds and other fees alone (not even incl the price of the lot) could add up to a third or more of the price an entry-level house would bear on the open market! Where’s their profit?? Economies of scale apply here (even if there are already too many “McMansion” developments out there).

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[quote=threadkiller]Maybe my mind set is stuck in the ’50s. I’m pretty sure back then anybody with above average wage could buy a nice 3/2 1200 sq ft house in San Diego. What about all the service members that will be getting out of the military? Will they be able to afford to live here in San Diego? Not unless they have their 20 in and then get a job in addition to that retirement. During that 20 years however what were they doing? Unless getting officer pay my bet is they were renting (I do agree their housing allowance is too high, did it go down when homes prices went down, I doubt it). New housing is too expensive here in San Diego, that is my basic premise. Alot of it is because builders build houses that are too big, and if you look at their books I’m sure they are way fatter than my wallet.[/quote]

Actually, TK, in the “’50’s,” even working-class families could purchase the average 1000 – 1200 sf new (or used) home. However, I’ve made this offer before here and it is still on offer, “Would YOU move your family into one of these (unremodeled) homes (built 1947 – 1952)??”

Service members who retire from their last duty station (SD or anywhere) will be moved FREE OF CHARGE by the goverment back to the city or town of the MEPPS station where they first enlisted into the military. Some of these areas no doubt are far cheaper than SD to live in and they may be able to survive on their pensions, alone. Retiring service members have 30 days from their official retirement date to vacate their military housing units (any Pigg please correct me here if this time frame has been lengthened). As a “retiree,” they are no longer eligible for a housing allowance or military housing.

TK, you can’t expect a developer today to build entry level housing when their MR bonds and other fees alone (not even incl the price of the lot) could add up to a third or more of the price an entry-level house would bear on the open market! Where’s their profit?? Economies of scale apply here (even if there are already too many “McMansion” developments out there).

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[quote=threadkiller]Maybe my mind set is stuck in the ’50s. I’m pretty sure back then anybody with above average wage could buy a nice 3/2 1200 sq ft house in San Diego. What about all the service members that will be getting out of the military? Will they be able to afford to live here in San Diego? Not unless they have their 20 in and then get a job in addition to that retirement. During that 20 years however what were they doing? Unless getting officer pay my bet is they were renting (I do agree their housing allowance is too high, did it go down when homes prices went down, I doubt it). New housing is too expensive here in San Diego, that is my basic premise. Alot of it is because builders build houses that are too big, and if you look at their books I’m sure they are way fatter than my wallet.[/quote]

Actually, TK, in the “’50’s,” even working-class families could purchase the average 1000 – 1200 sf new (or used) home. However, I’ve made this offer before here and it is still on offer, “Would YOU move your family into one of these (unremodeled) homes (built 1947 – 1952)??”

Service members who retire from their last duty station (SD or anywhere) will be moved FREE OF CHARGE by the goverment back to the city or town of the MEPPS station where they first enlisted into the military. Some of these areas no doubt are far cheaper than SD to live in and they may be able to survive on their pensions, alone. Retiring service members have 30 days from their official retirement date to vacate their military housing units (any Pigg please correct me here if this time frame has been lengthened). As a “retiree,” they are no longer eligible for a housing allowance or military housing.

TK, you can’t expect a developer today to build entry level housing when their MR bonds and other fees alone (not even incl the price of the lot) could add up to a third or more of the price an entry-level house would bear on the open market! Where’s their profit?? Economies of scale apply here (even if there are already too many “McMansion” developments out there).

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[quote=threadkiller]Maybe my mind set is stuck in the ’50s. I’m pretty sure back then anybody with above average wage could buy a nice 3/2 1200 sq ft house in San Diego. What about all the service members that will be getting out of the military? Will they be able to afford to live here in San Diego? Not unless they have their 20 in and then get a job in addition to that retirement. During that 20 years however what were they doing? Unless getting officer pay my bet is they were renting (I do agree their housing allowance is too high, did it go down when homes prices went down, I doubt it). New housing is too expensive here in San Diego, that is my basic premise. Alot of it is because builders build houses that are too big, and if you look at their books I’m sure they are way fatter than my wallet.[/quote]

Actually, TK, in the “’50’s,” even working-class families could purchase the average 1000 – 1200 sf new (or used) home. However, I’ve made this offer before here and it is still on offer, “Would YOU move your family into one of these (unremodeled) homes (built 1947 – 1952)??”

Service members who retire from their last duty station (SD or anywhere) will be moved FREE OF CHARGE by the goverment back to the city or town of the MEPPS station where they first enlisted into the military. Some of these areas no doubt are far cheaper than SD to live in and they may be able to survive on their pensions, alone. Retiring service members have 30 days from their official retirement date to vacate their military housing units (any Pigg please correct me here if this time frame has been lengthened). As a “retiree,” they are no longer eligible for a housing allowance or military housing.

TK, you can’t expect a developer today to build entry level housing when their MR bonds and other fees alone (not even incl the price of the lot) could add up to a third or more of the price an entry-level house would bear on the open market! Where’s their profit?? Economies of scale apply here (even if there are already too many “McMansion” developments out there).

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[quote=threadkiller]Maybe my mind set is stuck in the ’50s. I’m pretty sure back then anybody with above average wage could buy a nice 3/2 1200 sq ft house in San Diego. What about all the service members that will be getting out of the military? Will they be able to afford to live here in San Diego? Not unless they have their 20 in and then get a job in addition to that retirement. During that 20 years however what were they doing? Unless getting officer pay my bet is they were renting (I do agree their housing allowance is too high, did it go down when homes prices went down, I doubt it). New housing is too expensive here in San Diego, that is my basic premise. Alot of it is because builders build houses that are too big, and if you look at their books I’m sure they are way fatter than my wallet.[/quote]

Actually, TK, in the “’50’s,” even working-class families could purchase the average 1000 – 1200 sf new (or used) home. However, I’ve made this offer before here and it is still on offer, “Would YOU move your family into one of these (unremodeled) homes (built 1947 – 1952)??”

Service members who retire from their last duty station (SD or anywhere) will be moved FREE OF CHARGE by the goverment back to the city or town of the MEPPS station where they first enlisted into the military. Some of these areas no doubt are far cheaper than SD to live in and they may be able to survive on their pensions, alone. Retiring service members have 30 days from their official retirement date to vacate their military housing units (any Pigg please correct me here if this time frame has been lengthened). As a “retiree,” they are no longer eligible for a housing allowance or military housing.

TK, you can’t expect a developer today to build entry level housing when their MR bonds and other fees alone (not even incl the price of the lot) could add up to a third or more of the price an entry-level house would bear on the open market! Where’s their profit?? Economies of scale apply here (even if there are already too many “McMansion” developments out there).

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[quote=walterwhite]however many cabinets you have, you fill them up. That’s why i think there should be a lot less cabinets. every family member should have one plate and one cup. perhaps and extra setting for a guest. silverware, ditto.

unfortunately, I have a lot of full cabinets. but i long for a minimalist cabinet lifestyle. in fact, eff it, i don’t even need a cabinet. I think they didn’t have cabinets in the olde days, they just had freestanding dish racks. one of those. we have too much, require too much to store it in and then when we get the boot, we have to take not only the stuff but the stuff to put the stuff in.[/quote]

scaredy, I am in full agreement with you here :=}

I’m going to be giving away A LOT of stuff to charity early next month to slowly get ready for “downsizing.” I think having “stuff” you use once a year (or less) is just ridiculous. Hit the road or get on a plane, instead :=]

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[quote=walterwhite]however many cabinets you have, you fill them up. That’s why i think there should be a lot less cabinets. every family member should have one plate and one cup. perhaps and extra setting for a guest. silverware, ditto.

unfortunately, I have a lot of full cabinets. but i long for a minimalist cabinet lifestyle. in fact, eff it, i don’t even need a cabinet. I think they didn’t have cabinets in the olde days, they just had freestanding dish racks. one of those. we have too much, require too much to store it in and then when we get the boot, we have to take not only the stuff but the stuff to put the stuff in.[/quote]

scaredy, I am in full agreement with you here :=}

I’m going to be giving away A LOT of stuff to charity early next month to slowly get ready for “downsizing.” I think having “stuff” you use once a year (or less) is just ridiculous. Hit the road or get on a plane, instead :=]

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