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Participant[quote=carli]You’re welcome, BG. I don’t know CCA’s exact enrollment figure, but I believe it’s just under 2000 students. I’m not sure what the odds are of students being selected via the lottery (by the way, the lottery is purely based on chance), but the rumor is that this school year, 200 students had to be turned away, which is far more than in past years. Again, this figure is not official, just what was discussed among parents. I don’t have time right now, but maybe later I’ll see if any of this info can be confirmed on the district website at http://www.sduhsd.net.[/quote%5D
carli, it is not uncommon for ANY HS to have to turn away +/- 200 students (zone/inter-district transfer hopefuls) regardless of whether the “turnaway procedure” is by lottery or lack of space for out-of-area students.
Due to the fact that CCA has +/- 2000 students and that there is no other requirement for admission except for entering the lottery (no auditions, etc required), it should have been the County’s top scoring HS on my list, dumping Eastlake as #12. I apologize for the omission :=]
Participant[quote=joec]. . . no idea why you like to always add blurbs on HOA/MR, it gets old and makes you look less open minded / wise to meaningful discussions or what anyone has to say.[/quote]
The reason I use those terms (more MR than HOA, actually) is because that is precisely the “bill of goods” that parents and potential parents are sold when deciding to buy in a particular area solely for the school scores. The parents are no doubt also attracted by the newer school facilities (pd for w/MR bonds). The reason they are purchasing solely for the area school scores is because there is more often than not no other redeeming qualities to the property in question. It is often inferior in location, build quality and lot size to older properties of the same size in the more established areas as well as being identical or a mirror image to every fifth house on the block. You can’t deny that the right to attend particular school(s) is the foremost and only reason why most young parents flock to a particular area when they are in the market to buy. Nothing else seems to matter. We have recently discussed ad infinitum on this board how these “school-score chasing” parents are outbidding each other in certain tracts in these *coveted* school attendance areas and driving up these properties’ prices well over their actual worth.
Before “API scores” even came out or became a “hot topic” of debate, what criteria do you think families in coastal CA used to purchased homes?
How about . . . close to other relatives and/or best location they could afford?
Now, location doesn’t seem to matter anymore to the biggest segment of the buying public. It’s all about finding a quickly-built tract thrown up in lizard-land to reside in the attendance area of that *newer* sterile-looking “high-scoring” school with the desert landscaping.
The most important fundamental of buying RE in CA coastal counties has always been “location, location, location.” Obviously, this basic fundamental has taken a back seat in recent years to “elementary school, middle school and high school” (no matter what the additional encumbrances are). The 22-45 year-old age group is the biggest buying segment of the population. The vast majority of the over 45 age group and especially the over-55 age group already has all the housing they need and want (and then some). We just didn’t buy it in the same way. We bought for the most convenient and/or best location we could afford and (hopefully) appreciation.
I don’t have a personal “area bias” for or against here as MR is all over the county.
Participant[quote=joec]. . . no idea why you like to always add blurbs on HOA/MR, it gets old and makes you look less open minded / wise to meaningful discussions or what anyone has to say.[/quote]
The reason I use those terms (more MR than HOA, actually) is because that is precisely the “bill of goods” that parents and potential parents are sold when deciding to buy in a particular area solely for the school scores. The parents are no doubt also attracted by the newer school facilities (pd for w/MR bonds). The reason they are purchasing solely for the area school scores is because there is more often than not no other redeeming qualities to the property in question. It is often inferior in location, build quality and lot size to older properties of the same size in the more established areas as well as being identical or a mirror image to every fifth house on the block. You can’t deny that the right to attend particular school(s) is the foremost and only reason why most young parents flock to a particular area when they are in the market to buy. Nothing else seems to matter. We have recently discussed ad infinitum on this board how these “school-score chasing” parents are outbidding each other in certain tracts in these *coveted* school attendance areas and driving up these properties’ prices well over their actual worth.
Before “API scores” even came out or became a “hot topic” of debate, what criteria do you think families in coastal CA used to purchased homes?
How about . . . close to other relatives and/or best location they could afford?
Now, location doesn’t seem to matter anymore to the biggest segment of the buying public. It’s all about finding a quickly-built tract thrown up in lizard-land to reside in the attendance area of that *newer* sterile-looking “high-scoring” school with the desert landscaping.
The most important fundamental of buying RE in CA coastal counties has always been “location, location, location.” Obviously, this basic fundamental has taken a back seat in recent years to “elementary school, middle school and high school” (no matter what the additional encumbrances are). The 22-45 year-old age group is the biggest buying segment of the population. The vast majority of the over 45 age group and especially the over-55 age group already has all the housing they need and want (and then some). We just didn’t buy it in the same way. We bought for the most convenient and/or best location we could afford and (hopefully) appreciation.
I don’t have a personal “area bias” for or against here as MR is all over the county.
Participant[quote=joec]. . . no idea why you like to always add blurbs on HOA/MR, it gets old and makes you look less open minded / wise to meaningful discussions or what anyone has to say.[/quote]
The reason I use those terms (more MR than HOA, actually) is because that is precisely the “bill of goods” that parents and potential parents are sold when deciding to buy in a particular area solely for the school scores. The parents are no doubt also attracted by the newer school facilities (pd for w/MR bonds). The reason they are purchasing solely for the area school scores is because there is more often than not no other redeeming qualities to the property in question. It is often inferior in location, build quality and lot size to older properties of the same size in the more established areas as well as being identical or a mirror image to every fifth house on the block. You can’t deny that the right to attend particular school(s) is the foremost and only reason why most young parents flock to a particular area when they are in the market to buy. Nothing else seems to matter. We have recently discussed ad infinitum on this board how these “school-score chasing” parents are outbidding each other in certain tracts in these *coveted* school attendance areas and driving up these properties’ prices well over their actual worth.
Before “API scores” even came out or became a “hot topic” of debate, what criteria do you think families in coastal CA used to purchased homes?
How about . . . close to other relatives and/or best location they could afford?
Now, location doesn’t seem to matter anymore to the biggest segment of the buying public. It’s all about finding a quickly-built tract thrown up in lizard-land to reside in the attendance area of that *newer* sterile-looking “high-scoring” school with the desert landscaping.
The most important fundamental of buying RE in CA coastal counties has always been “location, location, location.” Obviously, this basic fundamental has taken a back seat in recent years to “elementary school, middle school and high school” (no matter what the additional encumbrances are). The 22-45 year-old age group is the biggest buying segment of the population. The vast majority of the over 45 age group and especially the over-55 age group already has all the housing they need and want (and then some). We just didn’t buy it in the same way. We bought for the most convenient and/or best location we could afford and (hopefully) appreciation.
I don’t have a personal “area bias” for or against here as MR is all over the county.
ParticipantThank you, carli. CCA sounds like an innovative school with a performing arts slant. Due to the extra workload (extra credits over a “mainstream” HS?), it may not be the right school for every student.
How many students will it hold and what are the chances of a students being selected for it from the lottery?
ParticipantThank you, carli. CCA sounds like an innovative school with a performing arts slant. Due to the extra workload (extra credits over a “mainstream” HS?), it may not be the right school for every student.
How many students will it hold and what are the chances of a students being selected for it from the lottery?
ParticipantThank you, carli. CCA sounds like an innovative school with a performing arts slant. Due to the extra workload (extra credits over a “mainstream” HS?), it may not be the right school for every student.
How many students will it hold and what are the chances of a students being selected for it from the lottery?
Participant[quote=cvmom]Although I think BG is correct about elementary school, once you get up to middle and high school I lean toward sdr’s perspective. That is where the peer group begins to have a huge effect. I see my sister’s kid (just as bright as my kid) just coasting along because he is a smart fish in a small pond in a rural school. Whereas my kid is so much much more motivated because he is running full-speed (academically speaking) to keep up with his peers.[/quote]
Totally agree here, cvmom. However, the MORE “peers” your kid “associates” with (successful or not) the more “distractions” they have (texting/facebook, etc). The focused kid who is a little bit of a loner will probably get the higher GPA, IMHO. There is so much work to do to get through HS these days that I believe the less distracted the kid is, the better. For example, if your kid already HAS 397 online “friends,” why does he/she now need 512, even if these “add-on friends” make good grades or come from “more affluent” families??
How many times can you rescue your kid from an “impromptu afterschool party” at one of the neighborhood “McMansions” before their interim grades determine that they have too much on their plates??
You make a good argument here for just “renting” for 4-6 years if the “coveted, high-scoring” HS you want your kid to go to is surrounded by expensive HOA’s and CFD’s (which have 20-45 yrs of MR left).
Why imprison yourself for life with HOA/exorbitant MR and possibly not even be able to recover your purchase price in the foreseeable future if you can just “borrow” the property only for the few years that you need it for your kid and then move out??
Many newly minted HS graduates are just itching to spread their wings and work and/or attend school in another locale. As a parent, if you “downsize” out of their old “stomping grounds” after your kid(s) graduate from HS, hopefully they won’t later try to come back to “haunt you” as “boomerang kids.”
Of course, this suggestion would not apply if the great-scoring school is not surrounded by expensive HOAs/MRs (such as LJHS – primarily surrounded by older homeowners). In that case, buy property whenever you are able to there and “retire in place.” :=]
Participant[quote=cvmom]Although I think BG is correct about elementary school, once you get up to middle and high school I lean toward sdr’s perspective. That is where the peer group begins to have a huge effect. I see my sister’s kid (just as bright as my kid) just coasting along because he is a smart fish in a small pond in a rural school. Whereas my kid is so much much more motivated because he is running full-speed (academically speaking) to keep up with his peers.[/quote]
Totally agree here, cvmom. However, the MORE “peers” your kid “associates” with (successful or not) the more “distractions” they have (texting/facebook, etc). The focused kid who is a little bit of a loner will probably get the higher GPA, IMHO. There is so much work to do to get through HS these days that I believe the less distracted the kid is, the better. For example, if your kid already HAS 397 online “friends,” why does he/she now need 512, even if these “add-on friends” make good grades or come from “more affluent” families??
How many times can you rescue your kid from an “impromptu afterschool party” at one of the neighborhood “McMansions” before their interim grades determine that they have too much on their plates??
You make a good argument here for just “renting” for 4-6 years if the “coveted, high-scoring” HS you want your kid to go to is surrounded by expensive HOA’s and CFD’s (which have 20-45 yrs of MR left).
Why imprison yourself for life with HOA/exorbitant MR and possibly not even be able to recover your purchase price in the foreseeable future if you can just “borrow” the property only for the few years that you need it for your kid and then move out??
Many newly minted HS graduates are just itching to spread their wings and work and/or attend school in another locale. As a parent, if you “downsize” out of their old “stomping grounds” after your kid(s) graduate from HS, hopefully they won’t later try to come back to “haunt you” as “boomerang kids.”
Of course, this suggestion would not apply if the great-scoring school is not surrounded by expensive HOAs/MRs (such as LJHS – primarily surrounded by older homeowners). In that case, buy property whenever you are able to there and “retire in place.” :=]
Participant[quote=cvmom]Although I think BG is correct about elementary school, once you get up to middle and high school I lean toward sdr’s perspective. That is where the peer group begins to have a huge effect. I see my sister’s kid (just as bright as my kid) just coasting along because he is a smart fish in a small pond in a rural school. Whereas my kid is so much much more motivated because he is running full-speed (academically speaking) to keep up with his peers.[/quote]
Totally agree here, cvmom. However, the MORE “peers” your kid “associates” with (successful or not) the more “distractions” they have (texting/facebook, etc). The focused kid who is a little bit of a loner will probably get the higher GPA, IMHO. There is so much work to do to get through HS these days that I believe the less distracted the kid is, the better. For example, if your kid already HAS 397 online “friends,” why does he/she now need 512, even if these “add-on friends” make good grades or come from “more affluent” families??
How many times can you rescue your kid from an “impromptu afterschool party” at one of the neighborhood “McMansions” before their interim grades determine that they have too much on their plates??
You make a good argument here for just “renting” for 4-6 years if the “coveted, high-scoring” HS you want your kid to go to is surrounded by expensive HOA’s and CFD’s (which have 20-45 yrs of MR left).
Why imprison yourself for life with HOA/exorbitant MR and possibly not even be able to recover your purchase price in the foreseeable future if you can just “borrow” the property only for the few years that you need it for your kid and then move out??
Many newly minted HS graduates are just itching to spread their wings and work and/or attend school in another locale. As a parent, if you “downsize” out of their old “stomping grounds” after your kid(s) graduate from HS, hopefully they won’t later try to come back to “haunt you” as “boomerang kids.”
Of course, this suggestion would not apply if the great-scoring school is not surrounded by expensive HOAs/MRs (such as LJHS – primarily surrounded by older homeowners). In that case, buy property whenever you are able to there and “retire in place.” :=]
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
Do you really beleive that all kids arrive at 10th grade or even 7th grade evenly prepared? Only an idiot would think the elementary scores are used for college admissions and we are not idiots here. What they are is an indicator of the quality of students your child will be surrounded by. The competitive landscape so to speak. A student surrounded by top performers is more likely to be motivated and the teachers are less likely to have to dumb down the curriculumn to the lower performers. That is the biggest reason for searching out top performing schools. If you want to play in the big leagues of life you need to be prepared to compete at every level.[/quote]sdr, curriculumns (sic) aren’t “dumbed down” in elem schools scoring below 900. Children are placed in classes according to their abilities in EVERY school. Many parents don’t wish their kids to be surrounded by multitudes of “helicopter parents” (mostly “soccer moms” with nothing better to do) constantly attempting to disrupt the teaching going on in there with their own personal agendas, as in many “900+ scoring” elem schools.
Social and economic class has nothing to do with the “quality” of a child … either as a student or a friend/human being.
You seem to be getting worked up here about your “perceived social class level” of the classmates of your children. When all is said and done, these “classmates” will not have had any part in how well your child performed in elem school.
Even when newly-minted HS graduates move their tassels from one side of their mortar boards to the other, they all say goodbye to each other and each goes their separate ways.
TEACHERS can make a HUGE difference in a student’s performance but their classmates are just a distraction to a kid during school hours. Too many “other student-friends” in your child’s life will simply end up as another notch on their Facebook walls.
You would be surprised how many of the girls with the highest grades and/or whose families have the most $ end up marrying a sailor right out of HS due to pregnancy …. yes, even today. And how many of the upper MC or “rich” boys join the military right out of HS or decide to travel cross-country for a couple of years in a 1968 VW Van before enrolling in college.
I sincerely hope your kids never disappoint you and only “mingle” with what you consider to be “quality” children along their respective paths in life, sdr.
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
Do you really beleive that all kids arrive at 10th grade or even 7th grade evenly prepared? Only an idiot would think the elementary scores are used for college admissions and we are not idiots here. What they are is an indicator of the quality of students your child will be surrounded by. The competitive landscape so to speak. A student surrounded by top performers is more likely to be motivated and the teachers are less likely to have to dumb down the curriculumn to the lower performers. That is the biggest reason for searching out top performing schools. If you want to play in the big leagues of life you need to be prepared to compete at every level.[/quote]sdr, curriculumns (sic) aren’t “dumbed down” in elem schools scoring below 900. Children are placed in classes according to their abilities in EVERY school. Many parents don’t wish their kids to be surrounded by multitudes of “helicopter parents” (mostly “soccer moms” with nothing better to do) constantly attempting to disrupt the teaching going on in there with their own personal agendas, as in many “900+ scoring” elem schools.
Social and economic class has nothing to do with the “quality” of a child … either as a student or a friend/human being.
You seem to be getting worked up here about your “perceived social class level” of the classmates of your children. When all is said and done, these “classmates” will not have had any part in how well your child performed in elem school.
Even when newly-minted HS graduates move their tassels from one side of their mortar boards to the other, they all say goodbye to each other and each goes their separate ways.
TEACHERS can make a HUGE difference in a student’s performance but their classmates are just a distraction to a kid during school hours. Too many “other student-friends” in your child’s life will simply end up as another notch on their Facebook walls.
You would be surprised how many of the girls with the highest grades and/or whose families have the most $ end up marrying a sailor right out of HS due to pregnancy …. yes, even today. And how many of the upper MC or “rich” boys join the military right out of HS or decide to travel cross-country for a couple of years in a 1968 VW Van before enrolling in college.
I sincerely hope your kids never disappoint you and only “mingle” with what you consider to be “quality” children along their respective paths in life, sdr.
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]BG
Do you really beleive that all kids arrive at 10th grade or even 7th grade evenly prepared? Only an idiot would think the elementary scores are used for college admissions and we are not idiots here. What they are is an indicator of the quality of students your child will be surrounded by. The competitive landscape so to speak. A student surrounded by top performers is more likely to be motivated and the teachers are less likely to have to dumb down the curriculumn to the lower performers. That is the biggest reason for searching out top performing schools. If you want to play in the big leagues of life you need to be prepared to compete at every level.[/quote]sdr, curriculumns (sic) aren’t “dumbed down” in elem schools scoring below 900. Children are placed in classes according to their abilities in EVERY school. Many parents don’t wish their kids to be surrounded by multitudes of “helicopter parents” (mostly “soccer moms” with nothing better to do) constantly attempting to disrupt the teaching going on in there with their own personal agendas, as in many “900+ scoring” elem schools.
Social and economic class has nothing to do with the “quality” of a child … either as a student or a friend/human being.
You seem to be getting worked up here about your “perceived social class level” of the classmates of your children. When all is said and done, these “classmates” will not have had any part in how well your child performed in elem school.
Even when newly-minted HS graduates move their tassels from one side of their mortar boards to the other, they all say goodbye to each other and each goes their separate ways.
TEACHERS can make a HUGE difference in a student’s performance but their classmates are just a distraction to a kid during school hours. Too many “other student-friends” in your child’s life will simply end up as another notch on their Facebook walls.
You would be surprised how many of the girls with the highest grades and/or whose families have the most $ end up marrying a sailor right out of HS due to pregnancy …. yes, even today. And how many of the upper MC or “rich” boys join the military right out of HS or decide to travel cross-country for a couple of years in a 1968 VW Van before enrolling in college.
I sincerely hope your kids never disappoint you and only “mingle” with what you consider to be “quality” children along their respective paths in life, sdr.
Participant[quote=UCGal]Did you exclude charter schools (which are still public.)?
Some SD Unified Charter schools scored very well:
Preuss: 899
San Diego International Studies: 873
Kearny International Business: 860I know Preuss limits who can attend based on meeting demographic statistical needs. But I’m pretty sure that any student can apply to go to San Diego HS or Kearny.
I see Beatrix already mentioned her daughter’s school.[/quote]
Thanks, UCGal. I did not include Preuss because it is primarily VEEP and also application only.
I will check out Kearny. I know this school went from a low-scoring HS/adult education/GED center to a “niche school.” If the Int’l Business program is the only program it has, then this school should have made it into the top 12, even though it likely draws its business program students from all over the City.
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