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ParticipantI’d be curious as to what was found in those two months phone records of 20 reporters that would rise to the level of “leaking US secrets” and “cooperating with spies.”
Since hardly any or none of them possess any type of security clearance, the CIA/US AG sure seem to be giving these lowly news reporters a lot of credit.
I would be surprised to learn if any “untoward” numbers at all were dialed/rec’d from in that thick stack of phone bills for 20 rptrs x 2 mos, lol. If they were, how would any of these peons’ KNOW the caller/callee was a spy??
This whole debacle may very well have been “engineered” for naught, IMHO.
Participant[quote=all][quote=bearishgurl]
Isn’t the CIA part of the Justice Dept??
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No.
It does disseminate justice, but it is not a part of the Department of Justice.[quote=bearishgurl]
If not, which Department is it under…
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CIA is an executive agency and reports directly to the Director of National Intelligence.The Director of National Intelligence (DNI) is the United States government official – subject to the authority, direction, and control of the President.
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… and does the US Atty General work for them?
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AG does not report to the Director of National Intelligence, no.[quote=bearishgurl]
Did you think the CIA had subpoena powers on their own?
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I don’t know. Maybe it does, maybe it does not. In this particular case it was not the CIA.[/quote]No, the US AG is part of the Presidential Cabinet. Under normal circumstances, an entity or person wishing to subpoena phone records would be required to send a “Notice to Consumer” or similar notice to the entity or individual for whom records were being sought a certain number of days in advance of the deadline for those records to be produced. This is to give the individual or entity served enough time to file a motion to quash the subpoena duces tecum.
This wasn’t done in this case. I don’t know what special powers the US AG’s Office would possess in order to get around this procedure.
Perhaps the semi-well-versed-in-Constitutional-law Pigg SK in CV can shed some light on how/why the AG got the AP to cooperate with their (improper?) SDT in the absence of proper notice, since Pigg scaredycat/Walter has been ignoring us of late.
Certainly the AP has permanent counsel chained to their ankle. There is much to learn here as to why Holder is seemingly large and in charge … but um, really isn’t.
Holder’s Lackey, Cole, stated that two months of phone records were obtained from the AP by subpoena
It is CLEAR here that the US AG was “representing” the CIA in the “acquisition” of the AP’s phone records of 20 of its reporters.
Participant[quote=all]And the article says CIA issued the subpoena?[/quote]
craptcha WHO do you think is the “subpeonaing body” for the “Justice Dept?” Might it be the US Attorney General? Isn’t the CIA part of the Justice Dept?? If not, which Department is it under and does the US Atty General work for them? Did you think the CIA had subpoena powers on their own? Isn’t that what Holder’s office is for?
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=all][quote=bearishgurl]I just believe that a law-abiding American citzen has a right to privacy.[/quote]Right. But how do we know you are a law-abiding citizen without investigating you?[/quote]
Well, craptcha, I doubt any of us have spent much time in communist countries. But we don’t have to to know what the (gubment-controlled) media tells their public (“measured,” of course) in those regimes.
In the US, a prospective employer cannot even “investigate” a job candidate (beyond easily-obtainable local public record) without a full release signed by the candidate. Even past employers of a candidate will say NOTHING beyond dates of tenure to a prospective employer without seeing (and comparing) the candidate’s signature on a release. If a job candidate has limited access to their social networking page, a prospective employer cannot see it without the owner’s consent, i.e. he/she has to “friend” them to grant them access.
[quote=all][quote=beearishgurl]I’m particularly disturbed about the journalists’ phone records being subpeonaed by the CIA in the absence of any arrests.
[/quote]Don’t be. The CIA did not subpoena AP journalists’ phone records, so it’s all good. ….[/quote]craptcha, that’s not what it says here, posted a little over an hour ago:
http://news.yahoo.com/associated-press-says-u-government-seized-journalists-phone-001433899.html
Atty General Holder “recused himself” from the subpoena by fobbing the dirty job off onto one of his lackeys. He even tried to justify it to an outraged citizenry and Congress:
. . . “It put the American people at risk, and that is not hyperbole,” he said. “It put the American people at risk. And trying to determine who was responsible for that I think required very aggressive action.”
The AP has said it was informed last Friday that the Justice Department had gathered records for more than 20 phone lines assigned to the news agency and its reporters.
The records covered April and May of last year, and were obtained earlier this year, the AP said.
It described the seizures as a “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into news-gathering operations.
“There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters,” Pruitt said in a letter sent to Holder on Monday.
Reid, the Senate’s top Democrat, told reporters at the Capitol, “I have trouble defending what the Justice Department did, in … looking at AP.”
“I don’t know who did it, why it was done, but it’s inexcusable, and there is no way to justify this,” Reid said.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Tuesday that President Barack Obama sought to balance support for a free press with the need to investigate leaks of classified information.
“The president believes that the press as a rule needs to have an unfettered ability to pursue investigative journalism,” Carney told a news briefing.
“He is also committed, as president and as a citizen, to the proposition that we cannot allow classified information, that can do harm to our national security interests or do harm to individuals, to be leaked,” Carney said.
Carney reiterated that the White House was not involved in the decision to seize the AP records.
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The White House (Pres Obama) tried to appear to support the Fourth Amendment whilst straddling the fence.
Participant[quote=all][quote=bearishgurl]
I don’t have any Big Brothers, don’t need any and don’t want any … for good reason.[/quote]That sound suspicious. You got something to hide?[/quote]
No, craptcha.
I just believe that a law-abiding American citzen has a right to privacy.
I’m particularly disturbed about the journalists’ phone records being subpeonaed by the CIA in the absence of any arrests.
It looks like I’m not the only one.
If journalists had to be constantly worried about the confidentiality of their sources, the American public would never get any “truthful” information. We would have access only to the “propaganda” shown to the public in Communist countries or those countries with otherwise corrupt regimes.
Participant[quote=kev374]which Toyota’s brakes are $750-800?? I got new brake pads AND brand new rotors for my Nissan Frontier pickup for $350 installed![/quote]
Sorry, I wasn’t clear. That price is for a complete brake job on the 4WD Toyota Tacoma or 4Runner. The parts and labor for Toyota Corolla, Camry, Avalon, etc is less.
ParticipantWOW, it looks like we have overarching gubment at all levels and/or who have the (dangerous) “power of subpoena” without any arrests already made.
Just, wow.
Now I know why I don’t use the Chrome browser, don’t engage in social networking, opted out of all e-mail lists, set my browsers and shopping lists to “private,” heavily control online “cookies,” opted out of junk snail mail, keep my nos updated on the “Do Not Call” registry and have always had an unlisted phone number.
What happened? Did Fourth Amendment rights fly out the window?
I don’t have any Big Brothers, don’t need any and don’t want any … for good reason.
May 14, 2013 at 8:45 AM in reply to: Need help hiring estate planner, CPA/Financial Planner and contractor #761989Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Make certain that the GC is licensed and that the license is current and in good standing. The CSLB, Contractors State License Board, will have this information, including any claims against the GC, as well as complaints.
For permitting, contact the County of San Diego and they’ll walk you through the necessary permits and navigating plan check. It’s been a while, but if memory serves, their offices are off Ruffin Road. It can be a major pain in the ass, but around your 20th phone call and tenth visit, things start flowing more smoothly. If you choose to have a GC honcho your project, the permitting should be included for all phases of work that require it.
The advice about staying on top of the GC is excellent. I’m in engineering and work with a wide variety of GCs, subs, vendors and suppliers. You learn the hard way to watch them all like hawks.
Do your homework and READ THE FINE PRINT ON EVERYTHING, especially the bids and quotes and statements of work.[/quote]
All good advice Allan, except the permitting location. That is good advice for YOU (in Fallbrook) but NOT for the OP. He stated his property is located in the City.
http://www.sandiego.gov/development-services/index.shtml
Pigg UCGal would know a lot more about the ins and outs of this bureaucracy.
I myself have hired a couple of GCs in the past but they were only GCs in their specialty. I hired them for ONE type of job only. I have never done any interior remodeling which required a permit or worked with any GC overseeing multiple projects.
Participant[quote=spdrun]Totally understood, actually:
Frankly, I *wish* that GM would release the police Caprice with a diesel engine (rather than a gas-guzzling piggie V-8) when it comes out for civilian use in 2014. I’d love a 30+ mpg “land barge” — I drove a Caprice wagon in college before some fool stole it and exported it to Saudi Arabia(*), and it had awesome carrying capacity, got high-mid 20s highway MPG, and handled better than any SUV.
(*) – no joke.[/quote]
I believe you, spdrun. Ask yourself why this happened.
I have another 3 relatives who have enjoyed driving their loudmouthed-blabbering Cadillac Northstars for years. One drives her white one 8 miles thru the mud at least once a month to her “vacation home.” We must keep in mind that gas is usually .80 – $1.00 cheaper per gallon in flyover America than it costs on the coasts. I don’t have ONE SINGLE RELATIVE who has ever cared about gas prices. They are from all walks of life but drive ONLY land barges and full-sized and duelly pickups, some with full back seats. NONE of them will sacrifice comfort and safety for gas mileage.
Their younger Gen X/Gen Y kids (my second cousins) drive more Japanese vehicles but not my aunts, uncles and cousins.
German vehicles are sold in those parts but are not preferred by the masses. It is rare to see a locally tagged one on the street.
I think vehicle preference in the US is culturally-based, depending on region.
Participant[quote=spdrun]That’s why overweight SUVs lugging around 5500 lb of pigfat and with 400 hp so a soccer mooooomy can plaster her ill-behaved sprogs to the leather seats by pressing the loud pedal are impractical to own. Yep, the 5500 lb is CURB weight, not GVWR. 1500lb heavier than your average 70s or 80s American land barge. Fail.
Q7? Just call it the Audi Suburban, Canyonero, or Power Wagon. Every time I see one of those things on the road, and think back to when Audi made light, innovative, fun-to-drive cars, I want to burst into tears.[/quote]
spdrun, most of my family members in those “flyover states” still insist on driving American-made barges today. Unlike, living on the east or west coast, they have to drive daily with a LOT of comm’l trucks and it just feels safer to be surrounded by all that metal and padding. Besides, unlike those ’70’s and ’80’s barges, the *newer* models have an annoying “personality” in that they talk incessantly about EVERYTHING :-0
The Lincoln Towncar is the preferred barge of choice of my brethren back in flyover America with the Chrysler New Yorker coming in at a close second 🙂
Participant[quote=kev374]$1300 for brakes?? Oh my lord! This is the definition of insanity. This is the reason I say German cars are fantastic to drive but impractical to own. If you feel the itch to drive one just rent one but own a Japanese make.[/quote]
Lexus brakes are $800-$900 all around (with machining, if needed). Toyota brakes are about $750-$800. I’ve also heard the Volvo needs brakes every 10-12K miles. I think that’s ridiculous.
Participant[quote=spdrun]I’d take a jeep or dunebuggy for hard-core off roading, but as a daily driver, no thx.[/quote]
I love the Jeep Cherokee, even for everyday driving, but with all the optons these vehicles have had since the late nineties, they are almost as expensive as a Lexus LX.
A dunebuggy is okay out in the sand near the CA/AZ border or out in the Mojave Desert but is NOT okay to take off road on high mtn trails with no guardrails with switchbacks crossing streams and rocks. That’s what a Jeep and Toy Tacoma 4WD are for. The Jeep Wrangler and Cherokee are the very best vehicles for this purpose.
Participant[quote=spdrun]Me, I *LOATHE!* SUVs and their tank-like feeling. Feels tippy and awkward to drive to me.[/quote]
I would much prefer to be up high driving a 4WD “tank” (read Toy 4-Runner or Lexus LX) and wave to professional drivers than drive a Fiat 500 or Miata (with the gas/brake/clutch 6-8″ from the ground) and be at the mercy of ALL drivers out there.
Especially in snow and ice. Those cars have no place to even store sandbags in order to add a little weight to them.
My brush with death was going downhill on southbound 805 in heavy rain in my Honda Prelude when a triple tractor trailer (MX plates) lost its brakes and was furiously trying to downshift carrying 80 tons of large concrete pipe no doubt on its way to the Tijuana Estuary project being constructed at the time. When its headlights were within 2′ of me shining in my rear view mirror and it was honking loudly, I managed to jump over one lane without looking and safely got off the next exit. This vehicle could have run right over me :=0
This was in 1991 during evening rush hour and I will never, ever forget it. I had PTSD regarding this incident for a couple of years afterwards dreaming of bright lights engulfing me. That Prelude was my last “little fun sports car with a clutch.” I drove tank sedans and a 4X4 after that and will continue to do so.
Participant[quote=spdrun]Bg – haha.
All you fraidy cats can bite me. Just took a 2000 mi road trip in a Fiat 500![/quote]
I hope you only tailgated comm’l trailers with a rear crash guard :=0
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