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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]except about tattoos. i HATE tattoos. 40 percent of the dang millenials have tattoos! its ridiculous. i cant stand the marking of the human body. not just because it is contrary to the Torah and jewish tradition. i just think its distespectful to the body.
The source of this prohibition is Leviticus 19:28: “You shall not etch a tattoo on yourselves.” does tradition mean nothing to these people? G-d says dont scribble on your bodies! why must you deface the holy vessel that is your body?!
i would like to see tattoos discouraged, perhaps with a large tax …[/quote]LOL, scaredy. What gets me is how millenials think they should dress for job interviews and work. I see millenials at superior court counters and tax collection counters (where they frequently interact with boomers and seniors) with extremely tight shirts on showing cleavage (every female article of clothing appears to stretch today, including jeans, lol). If we dressed like that at work, we would have been summarily sent home at 8:01 am to re-dress and the time we were gone applied to our vacation time on the books. These millenials more often than not do not wear hose with skirts and have their bare toes showing in sandals and flip-flop heels with stupid-looking fake jewels on them (straight out of the Dollar Store). Again, we would have been sent out to the store (on our vacation time) to buy pantyhose before beginning our shift if we showed up to work dressed like that and open-toed shoes were not allowed under any circumstances.
I’m so glad my youngest is a member of a Greek organization on her campus. She MUST have on dress pants or a skirt WITH a jacket at their once-weekly nightly meetings (regardless of weather – they can take the jacket off at the meeting). If she was dressed in bullet-riddled “skinny jeans” with a low-cut tank or bra-top left over from the gym that day, she will have to change for the meeting or be fined. No visible tattoos larger than a quarter are allowed nor would a heavily-tattooed female who was “rushing” for membership be picked up by most of these organizations. These young women are being prepared for the professional workforce and this is how ii should be.
Yeah, you’re right, scaredy. Schumer humor aside, some of today’s grossly overweight female millennial celebrities are colossal whiners … fat-shamed or not! If you weigh too much, you are unhealthy and should endeavor to lose weight ASAP. And um, YOU DON’T LOOK GOOD in those tight clothes you’re wearing! People don’t want to see you hanging out of your clothes so lose weight so you can wear them better! This also applies to males!
I find it UNBELIEVABLE how the portion of (mostly female) millennials dress who are at least 30 lbs overweight. Boomer women had pride. As such, we wouldn’t have been caught dead wearing tight clothes with a body like that. Even nine months pregnant, we covered up with dresses with strategically-placed pleats in them and dress skirts/pants with hidden panels which longer shirts hid. Never in a million years would we go out in public with half our pregnant stomach exposed under a short t-shirt and tight yoga pants worn low or a t-shirt stretched so tight over our stomachs that it showed everything that no one really wanted to see. NOR would would we ever nurse in public (that’s what restrooms are for)! It is RIDICULOUS the demands that many female millennials are making and the things they feel entitled to do at everyone else’s expense. They have no common decency or respect for others. For many in this group, it is all about them. Gross…
Participant[quote=svelte]Should have expected it – you’ve chosen hypocrite!
Trump said he did it – why shouldn’t we believe him? He said he did it regularly!!!
You’re believing other women who have said Bill did this or that, but when Trump says he himself has made unwelcome contact with women, you say he’s just joking! My God!
You are indeed a hypocrite.[/quote]What Trump actually admitted is that he made the statement (ostensibly about O’Dell but he doesn’t mention her full name on the tape) to Bush . . . . essentially that that was his voice on the tape. He DIDN’T admit to ever assaulting women. Once again, you’re mixing up his “male bravado” statements (yes, in poor taste) to another male in private (whom I just learned is the first cousin of Trump’s former political rival, the “low-energy” Jeb Bush … imagine that) with Bill and Hillary Clinton’s criminal actions over many years.
The plot thickens, folks ….
No, I didn’t initially believe all of the things Bill Clinton’s “other women” (and there were many) were saying re: their personal experiences with him. That is, not until I read the accounts of ex-Secret-Service personnel assigned to the Clintons and ex-Clinton advisors and other civil servants assigned to the Clinton AR state capitol as well as the White House. These are people who retired honorably with full pensions who have no axe to grind as they were never disciplined or dismissed from their posts. They are percipient witnesses and even eyewitnesses to all 3 Clinton Administrations who don’t want to die without the truth of how the Clintons operated on a day-to-day basis being known. Their “testimony” (as written) actually corroborates what Bill’s numerous “other women” have said . . . even taking it a bit further by telling what the Clinton(s) (both collectively and Hillary acting on her own) did to intimidate (while surveilling them constantly) and otherwise harass these women, including having one woman’s cat killed and having at least one woman’s tires slashed in her employer’s parking lot. These authors’ personal accounts are good enough for me.
We should all be thankful that these former key faithful public servants of the Clinton Administration were willing to share their personal accounts with the world at the ages of 65 to 85 years old. Without them, the nation would only be privy to whatever became public knowledge during their (yes, their) tenure in public office. We wouldn’t know anything (and still don’t know) about what was successfully covered up by the “Clinton Machine” if the victim and/or key witnesses to the incident are now deceased.
svelte, why don’t you visit Amazon for a new reading list for yourself? You can start on the dozens of fairly easy-reading paperbacks (or kindle-books) on the Clintons on your lunch hours! And while you’re at it, why don’t you poll some other Piggs who may be “Trump Supporters,” since I’ve only officially been a Republican since May 3, 2016 (4 months ago, when I got my voter registration postcard in the mail). There are undoubtedly at least a dozen Piggs who post here either occasionally or semi-regularly that I know of who are likely or fairly likely “Trump supporters.” Why continue to attack ‘lil old me? For “convenience??” And while you’re sitting around trying to figure out who they are, bear in mind that they’re not going to participate heavily in any discussions or polls involving Trump because they read all these attacks against me calling me every name in the book and then some and don’t have time to sit around trying to defend their own political views without being personally lambasted by a very regular cohort of Clinton groupies and/or far-leftist wacko posters on this site who have nothing better to do with their time than attack others online (even with a vengeance) because they perceive their political views to be different from their own. Last time I checked, this was America.
I was under the impression that left/right slapfests were banned on this forum but I guess not for this particular election cycle :=0 And that is actually A-OK. Carry on, folks. I’ll continue to try to help dispel all the ignorance floating around out there in the blogosphere as my time permits :=]
Participant[quote=flu]Remember folks… Filner apparently was removed from office, right?[/quote]Um, Filner was a Democrat. And a very competent one at that (I can’t say the same for his Republican running mate, Carl De Maio, lol). Filner never grabbed anyone’s crotch but just got into the habit of appearing to “proposition” co-workers and colleagues. That was too much liability for City so they were able to successfully get him to resign.
Participant[quote=SK in CV] The fact that he still has support from anyone is astounding. This happened just a few months after he married wife #3. His wife was pregnant.
“I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says.“You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”
“And when you’re a star they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.
“Grab them by the pussy,” Trump says. “You can do anything”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?postshare=2491475870527101&tid=ss_tw
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Um, SK . . . as usual, you omitted here the most important part of this recorded convo . . . that is . . . the beginning, as per your article:“You know I moved on her actually,” Trump recounted to a young Bush. “You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her and I failed. I’ll admit it. I did try and fuck her. She was married … (she told me she wanted to look at some furniture and I told her I know where there is some good furniture). I took her out [for] furniture [shopping]. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got, the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look . . . .”
(bold, italicized and parenthesized words/phrase mine)
Yeah, private “locker room talk” to another male (currently anchoring his own TV show) who was ROTFALHAO in response to Trump’s joking on what turned out to be a “bugged” bus. Even if Trump’s story about O’Dell was true or partially true (they went to a furniture store together . . . BFD), it happened in the past (meaning year(s) before this discussion took place).
Notice that Zucker walked out to meet Bush and his friend, Trump off the bus after already possibly listening to what they were saying on the “bugged bus” herself. She initially hugged Bush and then decided to walk between them, with an arm around both men. I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but the female professionals in the entertainment industry and especially those who have worked in the “back lots” of said industry for years well know the “score” in an industry which has only recently gotten more females in positions of power (production) and which has been historically dominated by males who have been “running the show” for nearly 100 years and casting female actors often based solely on their looks! As such, the females in this cutthroat industry well know the “lay of the land.”
Also notice that, even though they have had 11 years to do so, neither Zucker nor any of the other bus riders nor O’Dell have ever complained about this incident to the studio (O’Dell may have not been aware of these comments prior to yesterday and she obviously doesn’t give a rat’s @ss about them now.) She only just today issued a generic, apolitical statement (not even mentioning Trump) to cover her own a$$. Ask yourselves why ALL of these people have had ample opportunity since September 16, 2005, to complain publicly about Trump or tell Trump off personally but none of them have done so NOR have ever released that tape . . . that is, until the Clinton campaign somehow got a hold of it (from an ultra-lib media mogul?). Stranger things have happened.
Donald and Melania were married January 22, 2005, just 8 days short of 8 months at the time of his conversation with Bush. Donald introduced Melania to O’Dell when she hosted the 2004 Emmy awards (February/March 2004?) when they were still dating. He was obviously NOT talking to Bush about an incident which just happened yesterday or even within the past year or even the past five years when he referred to O’Dell in his conversation with Bush. In other words, Trump was “single” during the time the “furniture store incident” with O’Dell took place . . . that is, IF it actually ever took place at all. O’Dell didn’t corroborate the event so in my mind, it’s a non-starter.
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/access-hollywood-identifies-woman-donald-trump-tape-nancy-234415707.html
[quote=svelte] [quote=bearishgurl]FIH, my opinion on Hill’s fitness for POTUS has nothing to do with “’til death do us part” or even whether Bill and Hill had an agreement to have an open marriage from day one. I don’t even care about that. It’s based upon all the public humiliation over decades that she CHOSE to repeatedly suffer at the hands of Bill and the adverse effect it had on her in every way, shape and form. [/quote]
Well now. You’ve supported Trump because, in your words above, you can’t support someone who let themselves be humiliated repeatedly. again, your words, I don’t agree with the humiliated label.
If that is so, then how on earth can you support someone who does the humiliating? See SK’s quote below.
Trump admits he is hitting on a woman he knows to be married, while his own wife his pregnant! And fingering women, while is wife is pregnant, because he knows he can get away with it! Come on BG, you either have to quit supporting Trump right now or have yourself labeled as the biggest hypocrite ever. [/quote]svelte, you’re more naïve than anyone here would have thought you to be if you actually think all this “locker room talk” represents the actual experience of the speaker, lol. I’ve heard much, much worse in and out of my own workplace (coworkers). Over my working years, I’ve heard males repeatedly and routinely talking trash about women with sheep, women with dogs and on and on. You can well imagine the rest of it. I just let it roll off my back as there is no cure for porn addiction so I just felt sorry for them. Some of the speakers were in positions of power. Actually, a handful of the speakers (off and on) made over $250K annually. This type of “male locker-room talk” isn’t meant for females to hear . . . it’s just the way a lot of them let off steam to one another. It doesn’t mean anything. No one is actually “scoring” with anyone.
I’m not condoning this type of speech but it is a reality in certain industries . . . the entertainment industry being one of them. I’m not condoning what Trump said to Bush but the MSM, of course, is having a field day with these comments (they fall into the sex, drugs and rock ‘n roll category, which is awesome for ratings). The Republican representatives who are now withdrawing their endorsements from Trump are just mightily trying to flick the flies off their starched cuffs . . . to “separate” themselves from Trump if they are currently running to keep their offices or supporting another down-ballot conservative who is . . . especially if the bulk of their “constituencies” are either Evangelical or Mormon.
I DID poll three separate families (all OOS relatives and staunch Southern Baptists) last night and was told by all of them that they still intend to vote for Trump. Honestly, after speaking to them, I get the feeling that a lot of people don’t spend several hours per day on the internet and two out of three of these families only have an antenna (getting local channels only) and thus don’t have the 24/7 cable news stream of squawking heads invading their airspace. The average voter has far more important priorities their lives than sitting around lamenting in front of the TV what dirty jokes Donald Trump was telling 11, 18, 27, 31 or 35 years ago whilst “working” in the entertainment industry and possibly being “recorded.” They actually care about the issues this country is facing which are at a greater stake in this election more than at any other time in history. Imagine that!
svelte, you have absolutely no basis with which to compare Bill Clinton’s actions with Trump’s words, however “raunchy” they are perceived. Bill Clinton actually dropped his pants, unsolicited, and requested sexual favors of many women, a handful of them being young, 21-23 year old women, either interning or working in their first good job. He and his “sidekick,” Hillary Clinton, were forced to pay out an $850K settlement for Bill exhibiting exactly this behavior (in lieu of standing trial for it whilst serving as POTUS). If my spouse had conducted himself in a lewd and lascivious manner (as Clinton did) forcing us to pay out $850K in damages to the victim, I would have walked the other way so fast it would make his head swim (POTUS or not).
You’re also forgetting that Ms. Clinton (Hillary) arranged for one of Bill’s “paramour’s” cat to be killed and for another of his paramour’s tires to be slashed while she was at work. She also arranged for state gubment lackeys (assigned to Bill while he served at Governor of AR) to follow some of these women in their private lives and intimidate them and covertly caused false rumors to be spread about some of these women in attempt to smear them and ruin their reputation and thus, livelihoods, in the small, insulated state of AR. She even managed to successfully run one of them out of town (their hometown), causing her to feel she had to leave her job behind to start over fresh in another state.
If you don’t understand the difference between words (especially those said in a joking manner by Donald Trump in an “entertainment industry setting”) and actions (such as those many egregious lewd offenses against women Bill Clinton committed over ~22 years and those criminal and slanderous attacks on women Hillary Clinton committed in the same time frame and after), then I can’t help you and neither than anyone else. You’re beyond help :=0
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl][quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl][quote=SK in CV] . . . with the exception of a blow job.[/quote]Umm, make that hundreds (thousands?) of blow jobs over a period of at least 22 years. [/quote]
No, a single blow job. That’s it.[/quote]If you say so . . . :=][/quote]You’re aware of formal investigations that came up with blow jobs other than Monica Lewinsky? . . .[/quote]There were likely dozens of instances with Monica over several months in and out of the oval office and surrounds and their respective broom closets. Bill was caught lying about one instance . . . damn blue dress! There were many other “investigations” of Bill’s philandering but I wouldn’t call them “formal investigations.” However, the percipient witness’ findings, the evidence and the “testimony” of the other party themselves in at least a dozen of Bill’s affairs is enough for me. Bill was “philandering” and Hill’s MO was to try mightily to silence (in any way, shape or form she thought she could get away with) the women who bravely came forth, even decades later, and described (with both eyewitnesses and percipient witnesses) what Bill did to them. That’s good enough for me. Even Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes assumed the Clintons’ had come to an “understanding” and had an “arrangement” as early as 1992, which they tried to emphatically deny:
That is simply how the American electorate sees it. Don’t you love Hill’s “fake” Arkansas accent?
In all cases like this, the responsibility for the adulterous liaison falls upon the “married” party. About half the time, the unmarried party initially has no idea if the “married” party is actually even married! In Bill’s case, his affair partners (plural as in double digit) did know he was married but HE did all the heavy pursuing. He held the position of power and perhaps some of the women felt they would be able to climb the ladder faster at work and thus get a promotion if they succumbed to his wishes. None of his pursuits in the line of duty were “illegal” at that time.
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl][quote=SK in CV] . . . with the exception of a blow job.[/quote]Umm, make that hundreds (thousands?) of blow jobs over a period of at least 22 years. [/quote]
No, a single blow job. That’s it.[/quote]If you say so . . . :=]
Participant[quote=SK in CV] . . . with the exception of a blow job.[/quote]Umm, make that hundreds (thousands?) of blow jobs over a period of at least 22 years. Actually, I haven’t read Stone’s latest book. They could be ongoing for all we know.
And no, I don’t blame Hill for any of this as she wasn’t involved … :=0
Does any Pigg know if there are at least two MBR suites in the White House that the Clinton’s could avail themselves of . . . that is, should they ever find themselves moving back in?
Participant[quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu]Because I never thought I would vote for Hillary, lol. Ok, let me correct that. I’m probably not a California Democrat. More like a Bible state democrat. lol.[/quote]
What does that even mean? So you’re OK with higher taxes, bigger government, just as long as they don’t touch college acceptance?[/quote]
AN you know me pretty well. And you know that I would never be Ok with higher taxes and bigger government.
BUT, at this point, I’m more concerned with a longer term damage Trump does to this country than a shorter term damage that Hillary might do to my taxes.
He represents everything wrong about this country, every sorry excuse people make for themselves on why they can’t get ahead. He’s an enabler for people who hate just for the sake of hating, latino, muslims, blacks, and later indians, asians, jews. Maybe not all Trump supporters are like that, but there’s enough of them to make it a problem. And enough of them that I believe if he wins, it could be a problem for not me, but my kids and your kids, especially if they don’t plan on growing up in CA.
I can’t for the life of me explain to my kid how a Trump “President” behaves and acts the way he does as acceptable behavior. Now extrapolate his demeanor and his behavior to the parents and family that think what he is doing is nothing wrong, and pretty soon you have a bunch of little punks that also will end up saying shit to your kid like “Trump is going to send you colored people home”. Shit that was a really bad memory when I was growing up and people like us really were a minority in CA. People always say, things can’t get “that bad” in California. And that’s true. But why must I or my kid be forced to stay in California in order to feel safe or protected? That’s bullshit. My kid has so much more to lose. Neither I or my kid has the luxury to afford a Trump fvckup and his extreme followers in charge. Neither my kid or I are white. We don’t have the privilege of “experimenting” with Trump screwing around with his talk of a theoretical border wall built to keep latinos, or profiling muslims because all of them are terrorists, or his tough talk against chinese who are all hackers and spies and stealing “our jobs”, and on and on and on. These are luxuries a (for a lack of the better word) white family and white kids have, because no matter what Trump does, or how outrageous he casts his “blame net” on, it is very unlikely to ever impact a “white family”. Sure, it’s very easy for some of his supporters to say “Trump is being honest, and I’m so glad he’s not PC”. Again, they are white, and no matter what he does, yes they are correct, their life won’t change significantly no matter what he does. You, me, your kid, my kid, we’re not so lucky. Maybe we aren’t going be a target first, maybe we won’t ever be a target. You want to take a chance? I don’t. While as I don’t give a flying fvck about me, I do care a lot about my kid and the world that my kid will have to grow up in.
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As far as the rest of Hillary is concerned, I don’t give a flying fvck about all the “other issues” that the extreme right wing noise machine continues to make. I don’t care about Bill, I don’t care about Benghazi, about the email, nor do I really give a flying fvck about the Clinton Foundation. All these issues are of no concern to me, relative to the bigger issue that a Trump presidency presents for my kid.[/quote]
flu/flu redux/bullishgurl/fat_lazy_union, et al:
I have never read such a warped version of a “woe is me, me and my kids are/will be so disadvantaged” (with a Trump presidency) diatribe in my entire life! That is the biggest crock of BS that I have seen in a lo-o-o-o-ng time. Didn’t you grow up in CA? Was that in the ’80’s or ’90’s? If so, why don’t you tell the Piggs what backwoods CA city/town you grew up in where you were called “colored?” I myself attended elementary school in a suburban area of the SF Bay area where we had 8-14 “Chinese” classmates in each class. Yes, the classes back then were larger than today (30-40 students) because we boomers were a large generation, close-in bay area cities were growing rapidly and there were no class-size limitations in place at that time. All of us kids learned in groups together and played together, no matter HOW we looked! Good L@rd, we’re talking the early ’60’s here!
Last time I looked, (9/26/16 when I was surrounded by them in LA’s SGV), most “Chinese people” were “whiter” than “Caucasian people,” lol …. you know, those same peeps you’re calling “white” and “the most advantaged” and “nothing impacts them?”
Can you point me to any videos where Trump stated that, “All Chinese are hackers or spies?” YES, he’s said China has taken millions of our jobs. WHY?? Because our esteemed “leaders in charge” GAVE THEM AWAY! THAT’s EXACTLY what Trump said . . . he has NOTHING against Chinese workers or citizens.
flu, et al, you desperately need to get out more and hit the road 1-2x per year! I think you will find that you, your family and all your “Muslim” or “East Indian” friends coming along for the ride are welcome everywhere from SD to Brownsville, TX or SD to Atlanta . . . or all the way to Key West, if you so choose. You will also find that you will be welcome from SD to Wilmington, NC, SD to Baltimore MD or SD to Teaneck, NJ. Pick your poison E/W Interstate. And be sure to stop at a few truck stops along the way and sit at the counter and start talking to people!
And your kid will most certainly be welcome in any college or job she accepts in the entire country no matter who becomes president in 2017! And I believe you actually KNOW this at some level.
It is beyond clear here that YOU have been living in some sort of a self-imposed bubble and are completely out of touch with everything outside of it. You’ve clearly got a chip on your shoulder the size of the Grand Canyon! You would do well to drop it and quit blaming others (“white people?” . . . and Trump) for everything you find distasteful in the MSM.
This mindset is mind-boggling to me, coming from the likes of you, flu. Someone who’s grown up in AMERICA with every advantage and has been more successful than most as an adult. Just unbelievable … :=0
Participant[quote=flu]Well, that didn’t take long….Lol, let the slugfest begin.
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/782756130158108672%5B/quote%5DLooks like a passel of “deplorables” has invaded Hill’s twitter feed.
Where are her “supporters?”
Participant[quote=harvey][quote=scaredyclassic]i feel that miss “universe” is a little too far. alien life forms probably have different standards of beauty.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure there’s no higher form of beauty in the universe than the earthling Latina.
So I’ll state the obvious: Trump allowed himself to get dragged down into a discussion about the weight and personal life of a has-been beauty pageant contestant. If that doesn’t disqualify him from being a serious candidate, nothing can. His supporters went right there with them.
We have someone writing multiple paragraphs on this very thread discussing with all seriousness this woman who is about as relevant to the American presidency as my dog. And I’ll bet we’ll get many more paragraphs…[/quote]It’s not just me, pri_dk. It’s SK at CV. He appears to have a LOT at stake in this issue. After all, it’s “personal” with him. He said so.
One of my very first sentences about this issue today is that I didn’t understand why this “has-been” (apt description) was able to capture the attention of the MSM for FOUR WHOLE BUSINESS DAYS. You know the liberal noobs over at MSNBC love to make fun of Donald … especially when the news cycle is “slow.” Not that the Donald gives a whit.
I agree. Machado should have disappeared into oblivion after her first 14.99 minutes of fame were up.
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]SK, you must be aware that Machado, by virtue of her vitriolic attack on a US presidential candidate just ~44 days before the general election and just 45 days after she herself became a US citizen is fair game. She is a 39-year old adult who put herself out there! The fact that she did it at the behest of the Clinton campaign is irrelevant to whether her “testimony” about her experience with DJT ~20 years ago is credible . . . or not. Her words will be judged against her demeanor, any video and print “evidence” out there to corroborate her story or past history and her own track record. She has no protection and the Clinton campaign certainly can’t offer her any.
If she can’t take the heat that SHE created, she should have never walked into the kitchen to begin with. When you make a Faustian deal with the devil, sometimes you end up inadvertently selling your soul. Just ask your candidate, HRC.[/quote]
Wrong answer. What I asked is why it’s pertinent. Trump humiliated her. His response is to attempt to humiliate her again. Any decent human being would apologize. But then, based on his response, and yours, neither of you are decent human beings. There’s no reason to dispute it based on me not knowing you. You’ve told us who you are. You think it’s ok for men to humiliate women, and then humiliate them again when their called on it.
And you really shouldn’t use phrases you don’t understand. There was nothing that fits the definition of a faustian bargain in your candidates horrendous behavior.[/quote]Trump doesn’t owe anyone an apology. It is actually Machado who owes the apology. She’s the one who came out of the woodwork and publicly and viciously attacked Trump out of the blue after ~20 years. She never indicated back in 1997 that she was displeased with Trump’s treatment of her. She actually accepted his gracious gift of gym memberships and trainers to help her get back in shape at the time.
The “Faustian bargain” refers to the several that HRC made with her so-called “spouse” over the years. Certainly, you knew that. But maybe not. Maybe you’re not as smart as I originally thought you were, SK.
ParticipantSK, you must be aware that Machado, by virtue of her vitriolic attack on a US presidential candidate just ~44 days before the general election and just 45 days after she herself became a US citizen is fair game. She is a 39-year old adult who put herself out there! The fact that she did it at the behest of the Clinton campaign is irrelevant to whether her “testimony” about her experience with DJT ~20 years ago is credible . . . or not. Her words will be judged against her demeanor, any video and print “evidence” out there to corroborate her story or past history and her own track record. She has no protection and the Clinton campaign certainly can’t offer her any.
If she can’t take the heat that SHE created, she should have never walked into the kitchen to begin with. When you make a Faustian deal with the devil, sometimes you end up inadvertently selling your soul. Just ask your candidate, HRC.
Participant[quote=flu][quote=bearishgurl]
My life will be the same no matter WHO becomes our next president. If I have to remain on obamacare (if I choose to retire in place) until I’m eligible for MC, that will be the only difference in it (if HRC should win the election). And, in any case, obamacare will still be in place for all of 2017 no matter who wins.
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Well, for starters, something that you’ve proven recently on this board is you do tend to have racist/xenophobic tendencies. That was a surprise to me. And like I said, ever since I learned about that, things are quite different imho. And more recently, you’re trying very hard to rationalize some of this behavior, which is interesting. You’re trying to make an argument that everyone is just too PC…
Uh, I’m the last person that really would care about PCness. Like I said, you learn from your Trump god, and we’re beyond just being PC.[quote]
You keep speaking here of Trump’s supposed “gaffes” and un-PC sounding talk … as you perceive it. Do you honestly believe that Trump voters are just like Trump? If you do, you’re far more delusional than I imagined you to be.
[/quote]Not everyone. I tend to evaluate people on a case by case basis. When it comes to you, most definitely, you think and act exactly like him, minus money and financial influence to get away with it..
There were a few run ins with some adults at some social gatherings too, and yes they would fit in that category with you too.
So yes, so far, my run ins with Trump supporters have been people that are
1) racists
or
2) aren’t very well educated or informed (and I’m not talking about college degrees)
or
3) have an ax to grind because for whatever reason personal decisions they made in their life that affected them financially is somehow everyone else’s fault.[quote]
(rant about Hillary)
[/quote]I wouldn’t know about Hillary. I’m not a big fan of her either. And like I said, at this point, it’s picking the lesser of two evils, especially when one side tends to be racists, xenophobic, and insists on blaming all of their social and economic woes on someone that isn’t (for the lack of the better word) white.
For whatever reasons, you’re fixated on Latinos somehow stealing finance/benefits/opportunities away from you. You thumb your nose at asians who are willing to work much harder than you, and for the most part have achieved more than you have because they were willing to put the time and energy into it. You talk about limiting asians with your simple minded “let’s give them harder English proficiency tests”, when the fact of the matter is many of them probably have better English than you or I (at least written)…
All of your arguments and ways of “addressing/limiting foreigners” are the same low class, ill-informed, low information things that that a rural bumpkin would say, based on outdated, ill-informed stereotypes that aren’t even true. I sometimes wonder why you even bother staying in California ,versus moving to a place like West Virginia.[/quote]As Reagan used to say, “There you go again,” flu, making up sh!t as you go along. You have attributed numerous ridiculous assumptions about me over the years with your posts (and that’s only the ones I’ve actually read). I have no idea how you come up with this stuff since I don’t have any posts on this board fitting the description of any of your outrageous claims of who you think I am. That is, when you’re not on here bragging about yourself and your accomplishments ad nauseam.
And btw, I don’t know if you were referring to me but you should know that I have no financial difficulties. Thanks for your concern, anyway.
Nor do I have any “ax to grind.” Do you?? It appears to me that you have had a big chip on your shoulder the past couple of years or so. And I’m not sure why.
You are certainly free to pick your “lesser of the two evils” candidate when you cast your vote. Nobody will stop you. And everyone else is free to pick their candidate. That doesn’t make them “racist,” “facist” (that comment is attributed to YOU, SK), “xenophobic,” thumbing their nose at Asians, or a “country bumpkin.”
Your perception of “Trump supporters” pidgeonholed into your three neat little boxes is not only beyond ignorant, this attitude is going to severely limit you in your life going forward, imho. Your perception does not in any way, shape or form represent reality but it is definitely all on you.
Thanks for posting. I am now more “enlightened.” :=0
Participant[quote=SK in CV]JFC. Trump has never denied that he called her what he was accused of calling her. Logically, we can stipulate that he did it. Only someone incapable of logic would dispute that. That really is the whole story. None of the rest is the least bit important.[/quote]He didn’t specifically deny it because the whole allegation blindsided him during the debate. He deals with so many people every day that he probably had to take time later, after the debate, to think back that far to try to remember the person better and what all went down between them. Fortunately, much of Trump’s life has been covered by the media.
[quote=SK in CV]You have no evidence that she gained 65 lbs or any other amount of weight. She said it was 19 lbs. That you think it’s meaningful is disgusting.[/quote]The different numbers on the web for her weight after being crowned Miss U were 160, 165 and 170. I don’t know which one was correct.
[quote=SK in CV]She has no reason to deny she had eating disorders. Are you blaming a young woman for eating disorders now?[/quote]Yes, I’m blaming her because she did not seek treatment and entered the pageant knowing she had a grave disorder which very well could have prevented her from fulfilling her duties should she win. Gaining too much weight (especially drastically yo-yo-ing with one’s weight) is inimical to holding the position of Miss Universe . . . or the post of any organized pageant winner, for that matter.
[quote=SK in CV]You have a problem with Latinas, obviously. Clinton doesn’t need to use her as a token anything. You’re a liar about her getting paid. There is zero evidence that is true, yet you continue to smear this woman who is guilty of nothing but being humiliated by your candidate.
Your disdain for women and Latinas is abhorrent, as is your support for a racist fascist.[/quote]Sorry you feel that way. Once again, you are insulting me without even knowing me. You don’t know me, my family members or friends. You have no idea who the h@ll I’m associated with on a daily, weekly and monthly basis. In some ways, I hope you don’t go off the deep end if this election doesn’t turn out as you hope it will. You seem to have a lot riding on the outcome …. to the point where everyone who posts here actually stating they will vote for someone who is not your candidate is your enemy and needs to be verbally cut down and insulted and you’re just the poster to do that. I feel a little sorry for you, SK.
Again, Machado claims she was “humiliated” 20 years ago by DJT, yet when CNN’s Cooper brought up her criminal behavior 10-15 years ago, she stated that was too long ago and so essentially she shouldn’t be judged on it today and that her life is “clear” now. She also reminded Cooper that she had been Miss Universe 20 years ago and she no longer holds that title (implying that this portion of her life was dead and buried). Yet, she came up with these made-up comments from Trump 20 years ago as if she has been emotionally damaged from them all of her life. She isn’t the least bit credible.
I think you would have to agree that her statute of limitations for bringing these accusations forward (well-timed by the Clinton campaign 5 weeks before the general election) has long ago expired.
[quote=SK in CV]And Clinton is far from my idol. Another of your outright lies absent any evidence.[/quote]Nobody stated that she was. This comment was directed to your tagalong sidekick, flu, et al.
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