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Participant[quote=ucodegen] . . . There also seems to be a second issue. Jessica Leeds told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that it was a Braniff International Airways 707 Dallas to NYC 1979. Braniff didn’t have 707 flights on that route, only 727’s and they had the fixed center on first class.
according to: http://gotnews.com/breaking-nytimes-trump-accuser-jessicaleeds-confirmed-liar-cnn-airplane-details/I still want to dig a bit more on the above article because I do have questions due to one of the statements.[/quote]The above article seems to have been well-researched, uco.
I just ran across this piece from the same source.
Could the “plot” be thickening re: Leeds’ claim coming out of the blue at this time . . . after 37 years?
ParticipantIf Gilberthorpe could identify the date (or even the week or month) of the flight, the airline and the time of day it took off (I think he stated it was a Dallas to NYC flight), he would be even more credible. The problem with him is that he is impeachable. That is often the case with good “eyewitnesses.”
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=ucodegen]
My opinion is that there are too many people trying to get their two minutes of fame in the whole situation.Considering that Gilberthorpe (who made the claims that he witnessed the whole thing) also made claims that he procured boys for under-aged sex parties for high-ranking British politicians in 2014 – means that your source may be questionable, as well as his statement. I don’t think he could be used to show Trump was innocent by not committing sexual harassment nor that he was even on the plane.
[/quote]Wait, but wasn’t it the Trump camp that found and presented Gilberthorpe?
So you’re saying the Trump camp supplied a false witness?
Say it ain’t so~! 🙂
http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/
[/quote]No. Gilberthorpe contacted the Trump campaign on his own after he recognized Ms. Leeds photo in the news (holding up a photo of a younger version of herself).Participant[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . It outdid BG’s claim that female county employees should give deference to an old slumlord by wearing clothing he would approve.[/quote]FIH, I thought you were smarter than this. Surely you must know that . . . just like casinos do for their “high rollers,” CA County Assessors give deference and “special treatment” to those taxpayers who pay their taxes for multiple (even dozens) of expensive residential, commercial and agricultural parcels often into the hundreds of thousands of dollars in the last week before taxes are considered delinquent (April 10 and December 10), as they should. Would YOU pay $89,742.67 in your total 1st or 2nd installments of property taxes weeks or months before they are delinquent?? Developers and multiple property owners (or their representative) can make a personal appointment with the assessor’s office to pay their taxes and receive individual receipts for each parcel OR drop their entire sheaf of tax bills and corresponding checks to a supervisor and receive an envelope back with their receipts from their multiple processed tax payments. They’re not even charged for return postage, because they would have to hold up the line for 30 minutes to an hour if they were served in line.
Property taxes are the lifeblood of the state, county and city operations in CA! It doesn’t matter how old the taxpayer is. If they’re coming into the assessor’s office to pay big money to the county, then they deserved to be treated with courtesy, respect and professionalism. That doesn’t include being greeted by a gum-chewing, cleavage-baring, tube-skirted, heavily-tattooed and and/or pierced Millenial denizen with matching purple ball earrings from behind the tax collection counter.
Not only has the county and superior court dress code appeared to have obviously been “relaxed” over the years, wait staff grooming standards in (even expensive) restaurants has also been relaxed … especially for females. During my years as a professional food and cocktail waitress, never in a million years was I or my co-workers allowed to: wear our hair down (shedding in food and drinks served); wear dirty uniforms (or with dirty pockets); wear fake fingernails (esp with decals on them); wear large dangling earrings; have visible tattoos, have body and face piercings; have our bare legs showing; wear dark undergarments under light uniforms (esp with straps showing), etc. Female Millenials are now whining all over the interwebz about being “victims” of a prevailing “rape culture” that they themselves perpetuate by the way they dress and come off in public.
This is why I think Greek organizations serve a purpose, especially for a HS graduate out of an urban CA public high school. College freshmen can rush and be chosen into one of these organizations a little “rough around the edges” in every way, shape and form and graduate as a college senior with a long experience of being required to groom it, walk it and talk it with a variety of adults (incl well-known philanthropists and local CEOs) in different professional and social settings. It gives them a window into the world of work after graduation and provides them with valuable contacts for internships and jobs. To a lesser extent, clubs for different majors on campus also accomplish some of these goals but they are not all-encompassing and require the new “pledge” to take an oath of loyalty as well as certain behavior standards.
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=bearishgurl]
Frankly, I’m tired of hearing about all these “bimbo eruptions” that the Clinton Campaign has recently dug up. These women have had up to 34 years to come forward to “complain” about the way Trump treated them but did not choose to do so until the Clinton campaign dug them out of the archives and made them an offer they couldn’t refuse. I don’t consider any of them “victims,” ESPecially the now 74-year-old former “beauty queen” who claimed she was once groped while Trump’s seat-mate on a commercial flight 34 years ago, lol …..[/quote]Hypocrite again!
Bill gets accused years afterwards – his wife shouldn’t be prez.
Don gets accused years afterwards – they waited too long to say something, ignore them please.[/quote]Bill isn’t just now being accused of anything. He was accused shortly after or a few years after he sexually assaulted or conducted himself in a lewd and lascivious manner with many women (not to mention his dozens of consensual affairs). These women aren’t just now coming forward. Their stories (and related media frenzy accompanying them) is old, very well-known news which is all on the record.
Trump’s recent accusers (of him purportedly walking into a women’s locker room and “groping” his seat-mate on a plane) just came out of the blue after all these years. Where were these women when these incidences (presumably) took place? I’ve never heard of them and I have a l-o-o-ong memory.
Participant[quote=millennial][quote=bearishgurl]
There are sofas in the outer portion of many restrooms which can be used for nursing. And there is always one’s vehicle or a spare room if they are at a house party OR (gasp) leaving the baby with a sitter for a couple of hours with bottle(s) of pumped milk.[/quote]Sounds horrible and primitive. Every employer I have worked for has a private (locked) nursing room where new mothers can pump in their own privacy. Doesn’t sound like a place where most “best and brightest” would want to work…unless of course the vehicle is a Bentley. I heard those can be rather comfy.[/quote]That is nice to hear that employers are offering that now. Do they allow you to take your baby to work??
This was never the case during my working years. I was unaware of any laws compelling employers to do this so am unsure why they are offering nursing rooms. If I’ve overlooked any new state/Federal employment laws regarding offering employees a place to nurse, please post a link here.
Participantbtw, nj, I had another kid who was a Greek throughout college and obtained very valuable contacts for internships, their first job and good friends/colleagues for life!
Many college freshman NEED the influence of Greek organizations. Let loose on a large public college campus by themselves, they flounder and get lost in the shuffle and bureaucracy. I think they’re wonderful organizations who do a lot of good and open doors for a lot of young men and women who may not have had those doors opened for them otherwise.
So many kids come out of public HS today very rough around the edges in their demeanor, dress and speech. Especially in CA because of the omnipresent influence of “popular culture.” Rushing Greek organizations, getting chosen and choosing one is an excellent way to move on with one’s life after HS and mature into a college graduate who can walk it, talk it and groom it enough to get hired. You must know that the competition for jobs among recent college grads is fierce.
Going to a 4-year college as a freshman, majoring in an employable field and knowing how to sell oneself to employers (those who are offering living-wage, FT jobs) is the goal by the 2nd half of senior year. As for the thousands of millenials sitting in mom and/or dad’s back bdrm after HS and working at Pep Boys part time while taking 1-2 community college classes at a time, well, that is a slow-motion time bomb that isn’t going to end well, imho.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=bearishgurl]
I’m so glad my youngest is a member of a Greek organization on her campus. [/quote]
Considering all that you say I find it odd that you’re happy about sorority membership – it increases the odds of sexual assault by about 70% http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/campus/pages/increased-risk.aspx
Also, I once read that writers are allowed 3 exclamation points in their lifetimes. You should really rethink your punctuation. http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/09/plea-self-control-regarding-exclamation-point/323290/
[quote bearishgurl] Even nine months pregnant, we covered up with dresses with strategically-placed pleats in them and dress skirts/pants with hidden panels which longer shirts hid. Never in a million years would we go out in public with half our pregnant stomach exposed under a short t-shirt and tight yoga pants worn low or a t-shirt stretched so tight over our stomachs that it showed everything that no one really wanted to see. NOR would would we ever nurse in public (that’s what restrooms are for)! It is RIDICULOUS the demands that many female millennials are making and the things they feel entitled to do at everyone else’s expense. They have no common decency or respect for others. For many in this group, it is all about them. Gross…[/quote]
I am at the tail end of the Boomer generation and sorry but please speak for yourself. I didn’t wear the dresses with pleats (or little ducks or teddy bears). I wore jeans – they were comfortable. Also – I think I have a very useful piece of info for you! (Exclamation point on purpose.) Restrooms are for relieving yourself – check with your doctor if you need more specific information. (This should make your life a lot easier – and clear up the confusion about why there are ones for men. ) The materials of which you relieve yourself in the restroom tend to be bacteria laden and inconsistent with a healthy environment for nursing an infant whose immune system is not quite up to speed yet. So you need to go back to the drawing board on that one.
….[/quote]There are sofas in the outer portion of many restrooms which can be used for nursing. And there is always one’s vehicle or a spare room if they are at a house party OR (gasp) leaving the baby with a sitter for a couple of hours with bottle(s) of pumped milk. And I didn’t mention anything about teddy bears or ducks. We wore solid-colored rayon dresses or suits (maternity wear) to work which was tasteful and draped correctly. Yes, it had to be dry-cleaned. Glad to hear your employer allowed you to wear (maternity) jeans to work. We were not allowed to wear anything of blue denim to work pursuant to our strict dress code.Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]That is anachronistic, inefficient and bullshit. The cancelled checks are the receipts.
What is a check proptector?[/quote]
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrTcXXRGwBY7mIAt0EunIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBsZ29xY3ZzBHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEc2xrA2J1dHRvbg–;_ylc=X1MDMTM1MTE5NTY5NARfcgMyBGJjawM5dnB2NTk1YnZ2ZnA1JTI2YiUzRDQlMjZkJTNEanJ6anc5cHJZSDNiWm5hQTYzWTNVdy5IOW9aNXRaeTU2YjAweGpmWnBRb01FZy0tJTI2cyUzRHBqJTI2aSUzRGdqcVhuUkNTSzc2ZkFOZmg5TTc4BGZyA3locy1tb3ppbGxhLTAwMgRncHJpZANMVlhOYzdqTlExeUU2RE1iLi5xanNBBG10ZXN0aWQDbnVsbARuX3N1Z2cDMTAEb3JpZ2luA2ltYWdlcy5zZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tBHBvcwMwBHBxc3RyAwRwcXN0cmwDBHFzdHJsAzE1BHF1ZXJ5A2NoZWNrIHByb3RlY3RvcgR0X3N0bXADMTQ3NjQwMjEzNAR2dGVzdGlkA251bGw-?gprid=LVXNc7jNQ1yE6DMb..qjsA&pvid=W2jNUDIwNi6f5.VJV_._JQF1OTguMQAAAACof5cD&p=check+protector&fr=yhs-mozilla-002&fr2=sb-top-images.search.yahoo.com&ei=UTF-8&n=60&x=wrt&hsimp=yhs-002&hspart=mozilla
Participant[quote=millennial][quote=bearishgurl]Actually, yamashi, I AM a retired county employee. And btw, we WERE “the best and the brightest!”
[/quote]Please define “best and the brightest!”. Do you mean the best and brightest in San Diego?
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I never been (sic) to the county clerks office, but I never put them in that category.[/quote](comment mine)
Actually millenial/yamashi, we didn’t need college degrees to do our jobs and do them well. Few of us had one. Today, a 4-year bachelor degree is the new “high school diploma,” evidenced by most of the millenials’ inability to express themselves on paper clearly and succinctly . . . . even after graduating with a Bachelor’s … or Master’s degree :=0
Participant[quote=millennial][quote=FlyerInHi]
Who gives a shit about that 74yo? It’s you kissing ass to power. No wonder you love Trump.If the guy can’t do online payment then he’s stupid.[/quote]
…ok I was wondering this whole time what BG was talking about. I never knew a Tax Assessor office existed, always paid my taxes online. Also what is this “check protector”? Does he guard the checks?[/quote]It’s a personal crimp which imbeds the amount of each check into the bottom of the check itself … to prevent fraud. More than a few senior citizens still use them in their small businesses. Of course, you and your alter-ego/sidekick, yamashi, wouldn’t know about such things because they were not mentioned in your accounting textbooks in college. They’ve gone the way of the do-do bird in favor of holographed checks but are still used with large spiral business checkbooks :=0
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl]No 74-year-old “slumlord” wants to bring his large checkbook into the Tax Assessor’s Office on April 10 with several checks stamped with a “check protector” totaling $68,274.42 and a list of parcel numbers, only to be assigned a clerk who will take 30 minutes to process the payments in front of him who is dressed like a hooker. I don’t understand how these gubment employees are getting away with this stuff …. :=0[/quote]
Who gives a shit about that 74yo? It’s you kissing ass to power. No wonder you love Trump.
If the guy can’t do online payment then he’s stupid.[/quote]A lot of owners of multifamily bldgs and other investment property need a separate receipt for each parcel (for tax and bookkeeping records). You can’t get that by paying online. These multi-property owners CAN and OFTEN DO request an appt and a clerk takes their checks and sheaf of tax bills at the counter, processes them in their cubicles and then mails them a receipt for each parcel in a large envelope.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I caught up with the Trump surrogates. They’re are arguing that the way Trump talks about women is normal. The “elites” have outdated notions and are disrespecting the average American….[/quote]Actually, they’re correct. Most of us boomer females (along with senior females in the WWII generation) were used to hearing “locker room talk” from males, especially if we heard conversations in which they felt no one was listening. We KNEW from a young age that men called the shots in life and went along to get along at our jobs so we could keep them. We didn’t let leering men or their rude remarks affect us in any way, shape or form. H@ll, I was even approached by jeering pimps in Lincoln Continentals while out jogging in SD numerous times over a period of years! I just ran away from the road and went about my business. But this didn’t stop happening until the SDPD Vice Squad got a handle on the problem. (I never filed any complaints.) I’ve had several workplaces in the past which today would be considered “hotbeds of ongoing sexual harassment.” That’s the way it was then and there was nothing anyone could do about it.
Even Arianne Zuckor, the Days of Our Lives actor (a Gen X) whom some of Trumps comments on the bus were directed to stated today that she is not taking it personally and “isn’t surprised.”
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/arianne-zucker-talks-donald-trump-154900501.html
I’ve posted here recently that women professionals in the entertainment industry were/are routinely exposed to language like Trump’s/Billy Bush’s and just let it roll off their backs. They understood the “lay of the land” before even entering the profession.
It doesn’t make these comments “right,” but we didn’t whine and scream sexual harassment for mere comments or males brushing up against us at work. We told them to bug off if we felt like it … yes, even if they were a “manager.” Methinks a big reason for “hostile work environments” today are due to whiny millennial females who routinely file false sexual harassment claims over comments they overhear. All their male co-workers have to walk on eggshells around them as long as they work alongside them.
Frankly, I’m tired of hearing about all these “bimbo eruptions” that the Clinton Campaign has recently dug up. These women have had up to 34 years to come forward to “complain” about the way Trump treated them but did not choose to do so until the Clinton campaign dug them out of the archives and made them an offer they couldn’t refuse. I don’t consider any of them “victims,” ESPecially the now 74-year-old former “beauty queen” who claimed she was once groped while Trump’s seat-mate on a commercial flight 34 years ago, lol …..
Participant[quote=yamashi][quote=bearishgurl]No 74-year-old “slumlord” wants to bring his large checkbook into the Tax Assessor’s Office on April 10 with several checks stamped with a “check protector” totaling $68,274.42 and a list of parcel numbers, only to be assigned a clerk who will take 30 minutes to process the payments in front of him who is dressed like a hooker. I don’t understand how these gubment employees are getting away with this stuff …. :=0[/quote]
That’s what you get when you deal with government workers. Typically they don’t represent the brightest and best especially at places like that. Neither ones that work in retail, construction, fishing, and sanitation. There are a few like that movie Goodwill Hunting, but I would consider him to be an anomaly.[/quote]Actually, yamashi, I AM a retired county employee. And btw, we WERE “the best and the brightest!” I don’t know what happened after I “retired” but it appears their dress code has been “relaxed” for the millenials. I’m not sure why. They still have 50-400 applicants for each open position. Why do employers think they have to “cater” to what millenials want (relaxed dress code, flex time, telecommuting, 6-month long leaves granted without losing their jobs, etc)?
These same employers had no problem at all telling us boomers to pack sand if we asked for any of this.
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