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bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Waiting to feel the magic] . . . OTOH, I’m seeing some absolutely insane pricing by banks holding REOs. I don’t mean just high pricing, but like “we’re smoking crack in the back room” pricing. You’d think banks would be more objective about moving these things. These are vacant properties with tear out carpet, multi-color walls (holes are no extra charge), various green bodies of water, and dead landscaping being priced at the same level as a totally fixed up house that’s well maintained with tons of expensive upgrades. Not surprisingly, those properties aren’t moving.[/quote]
Even if the bank was in NY and wasn’t completely aware of the condition, you would think their *local* agents would be on them to get the price lowered, so they could make a commission . . . unless those agents . . . ARE NOT local.
The City of Chula Vista will not allow green pools, broken windows and weeds over two feet high and have two enforcement officers whose only job at present is monitoring the condition of REOs. It also seems like the banks owning South Bay properties are paying for dumpster-rental and cleaning crews – most of them soon after taking back property.
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=Waiting to feel the magic] . . . OTOH, I’m seeing some absolutely insane pricing by banks holding REOs. I don’t mean just high pricing, but like “we’re smoking crack in the back room” pricing. You’d think banks would be more objective about moving these things. These are vacant properties with tear out carpet, multi-color walls (holes are no extra charge), various green bodies of water, and dead landscaping being priced at the same level as a totally fixed up house that’s well maintained with tons of expensive upgrades. Not surprisingly, those properties aren’t moving.[/quote]
Even if the bank was in NY and wasn’t completely aware of the condition, you would think their *local* agents would be on them to get the price lowered, so they could make a commission . . . unless those agents . . . ARE NOT local.
The City of Chula Vista will not allow green pools, broken windows and weeds over two feet high and have two enforcement officers whose only job at present is monitoring the condition of REOs. It also seems like the banks owning South Bay properties are paying for dumpster-rental and cleaning crews – most of them soon after taking back property.
bearishgurl
ParticipantRe: the orig. Lexus/Bob Baker lawsuit in SD (Chula family driving in Santee), I think you will have to see how it turns out. IMO, Bob Baker was culpable in that its incompetent detail crew put a large heavy vinyl SUV mat over the floor of an entry-level sedan (the rental they were driving), removing the original mats. This is a fact that has already been verified by several wits.
Yes, Lexus floor mats are very heavy. But they have rings in them and are designed to be bolted under the driver’s seat to the floorboard by special clips.
I think this case spurred “copycat” cases throughout the US. Unfortunately, Toyota is now suffering from bad PR and very high attorney fees. THE CASES WILL HAVE TO “SHAKE OUT” THOUGH. It’s hardly the time to JUMP to conclusions, yet.
These cases caused Toyota to do a “peremptory strike,” IMO, to issue recalls on their own just to cover their a$$.
I agree that the new “IS” models don’t hold a candle to the older entry-sedan. They are more stripped down, lost 3-4 ft. in length, with smaller trunk eating into interior space.
Perhaps Toyota felt in recent years that it had to reduce size and std. equip. in order to compete today.
bearishgurl
ParticipantRe: the orig. Lexus/Bob Baker lawsuit in SD (Chula family driving in Santee), I think you will have to see how it turns out. IMO, Bob Baker was culpable in that its incompetent detail crew put a large heavy vinyl SUV mat over the floor of an entry-level sedan (the rental they were driving), removing the original mats. This is a fact that has already been verified by several wits.
Yes, Lexus floor mats are very heavy. But they have rings in them and are designed to be bolted under the driver’s seat to the floorboard by special clips.
I think this case spurred “copycat” cases throughout the US. Unfortunately, Toyota is now suffering from bad PR and very high attorney fees. THE CASES WILL HAVE TO “SHAKE OUT” THOUGH. It’s hardly the time to JUMP to conclusions, yet.
These cases caused Toyota to do a “peremptory strike,” IMO, to issue recalls on their own just to cover their a$$.
I agree that the new “IS” models don’t hold a candle to the older entry-sedan. They are more stripped down, lost 3-4 ft. in length, with smaller trunk eating into interior space.
Perhaps Toyota felt in recent years that it had to reduce size and std. equip. in order to compete today.
bearishgurl
ParticipantRe: the orig. Lexus/Bob Baker lawsuit in SD (Chula family driving in Santee), I think you will have to see how it turns out. IMO, Bob Baker was culpable in that its incompetent detail crew put a large heavy vinyl SUV mat over the floor of an entry-level sedan (the rental they were driving), removing the original mats. This is a fact that has already been verified by several wits.
Yes, Lexus floor mats are very heavy. But they have rings in them and are designed to be bolted under the driver’s seat to the floorboard by special clips.
I think this case spurred “copycat” cases throughout the US. Unfortunately, Toyota is now suffering from bad PR and very high attorney fees. THE CASES WILL HAVE TO “SHAKE OUT” THOUGH. It’s hardly the time to JUMP to conclusions, yet.
These cases caused Toyota to do a “peremptory strike,” IMO, to issue recalls on their own just to cover their a$$.
I agree that the new “IS” models don’t hold a candle to the older entry-sedan. They are more stripped down, lost 3-4 ft. in length, with smaller trunk eating into interior space.
Perhaps Toyota felt in recent years that it had to reduce size and std. equip. in order to compete today.
bearishgurl
ParticipantRe: the orig. Lexus/Bob Baker lawsuit in SD (Chula family driving in Santee), I think you will have to see how it turns out. IMO, Bob Baker was culpable in that its incompetent detail crew put a large heavy vinyl SUV mat over the floor of an entry-level sedan (the rental they were driving), removing the original mats. This is a fact that has already been verified by several wits.
Yes, Lexus floor mats are very heavy. But they have rings in them and are designed to be bolted under the driver’s seat to the floorboard by special clips.
I think this case spurred “copycat” cases throughout the US. Unfortunately, Toyota is now suffering from bad PR and very high attorney fees. THE CASES WILL HAVE TO “SHAKE OUT” THOUGH. It’s hardly the time to JUMP to conclusions, yet.
These cases caused Toyota to do a “peremptory strike,” IMO, to issue recalls on their own just to cover their a$$.
I agree that the new “IS” models don’t hold a candle to the older entry-sedan. They are more stripped down, lost 3-4 ft. in length, with smaller trunk eating into interior space.
Perhaps Toyota felt in recent years that it had to reduce size and std. equip. in order to compete today.
bearishgurl
ParticipantRe: the orig. Lexus/Bob Baker lawsuit in SD (Chula family driving in Santee), I think you will have to see how it turns out. IMO, Bob Baker was culpable in that its incompetent detail crew put a large heavy vinyl SUV mat over the floor of an entry-level sedan (the rental they were driving), removing the original mats. This is a fact that has already been verified by several wits.
Yes, Lexus floor mats are very heavy. But they have rings in them and are designed to be bolted under the driver’s seat to the floorboard by special clips.
I think this case spurred “copycat” cases throughout the US. Unfortunately, Toyota is now suffering from bad PR and very high attorney fees. THE CASES WILL HAVE TO “SHAKE OUT” THOUGH. It’s hardly the time to JUMP to conclusions, yet.
These cases caused Toyota to do a “peremptory strike,” IMO, to issue recalls on their own just to cover their a$$.
I agree that the new “IS” models don’t hold a candle to the older entry-sedan. They are more stripped down, lost 3-4 ft. in length, with smaller trunk eating into interior space.
Perhaps Toyota felt in recent years that it had to reduce size and std. equip. in order to compete today.
bearishgurl
ParticipantAs the owner of at least a dozen Toyota products throughout my life, I can truthfully say they are the most reliable vehicles on the face of the earth!
My first one was a 1970 (1969 1/2?) Corona Mark II (aka RT-43), yellow with a black vinyl top and LOADED (for the era).
http://designora.com/graphics/toyota-advertising/
Similar to the 7th image on this link but w/o the stripe (the new “hot” one). . . LOL! Mine had a little fancier grille with a “Crown” on it.
Lexus products with their double-wishbone steering and reinforced heavy steel doors run like champs and have a LONG LIFE. Besides my “quintessential neighbor” with the 15 year-old SC he and his 86-yr. old spouse “take for a spin” frequently, my Lexus is 16 years old and runs like a top. I’m planning on leaving again for another 3300 mi. road trip with it in a month. I also have friends with 14 and 19 year old luxury sedans, both which still “float like a boat” and get 29 MPG on the road, even though they have an 8 cyl. eng.
This is part of the problem of why the dealers are unable to sell new in a downturn like this, IMHO. Why would a former owner sold on these kinds of cars, like myself, buy new even if they had the money (and absorb much higher ins. prems. & reg. fees), when the “old one” runs fine?? Most of these cars have been maintained properly. If they are garaged throughout their lives, their 10 layers of paint are still beautiful after 20 yrs!
bearishgurl
ParticipantAs the owner of at least a dozen Toyota products throughout my life, I can truthfully say they are the most reliable vehicles on the face of the earth!
My first one was a 1970 (1969 1/2?) Corona Mark II (aka RT-43), yellow with a black vinyl top and LOADED (for the era).
http://designora.com/graphics/toyota-advertising/
Similar to the 7th image on this link but w/o the stripe (the new “hot” one). . . LOL! Mine had a little fancier grille with a “Crown” on it.
Lexus products with their double-wishbone steering and reinforced heavy steel doors run like champs and have a LONG LIFE. Besides my “quintessential neighbor” with the 15 year-old SC he and his 86-yr. old spouse “take for a spin” frequently, my Lexus is 16 years old and runs like a top. I’m planning on leaving again for another 3300 mi. road trip with it in a month. I also have friends with 14 and 19 year old luxury sedans, both which still “float like a boat” and get 29 MPG on the road, even though they have an 8 cyl. eng.
This is part of the problem of why the dealers are unable to sell new in a downturn like this, IMHO. Why would a former owner sold on these kinds of cars, like myself, buy new even if they had the money (and absorb much higher ins. prems. & reg. fees), when the “old one” runs fine?? Most of these cars have been maintained properly. If they are garaged throughout their lives, their 10 layers of paint are still beautiful after 20 yrs!
bearishgurl
ParticipantAs the owner of at least a dozen Toyota products throughout my life, I can truthfully say they are the most reliable vehicles on the face of the earth!
My first one was a 1970 (1969 1/2?) Corona Mark II (aka RT-43), yellow with a black vinyl top and LOADED (for the era).
http://designora.com/graphics/toyota-advertising/
Similar to the 7th image on this link but w/o the stripe (the new “hot” one). . . LOL! Mine had a little fancier grille with a “Crown” on it.
Lexus products with their double-wishbone steering and reinforced heavy steel doors run like champs and have a LONG LIFE. Besides my “quintessential neighbor” with the 15 year-old SC he and his 86-yr. old spouse “take for a spin” frequently, my Lexus is 16 years old and runs like a top. I’m planning on leaving again for another 3300 mi. road trip with it in a month. I also have friends with 14 and 19 year old luxury sedans, both which still “float like a boat” and get 29 MPG on the road, even though they have an 8 cyl. eng.
This is part of the problem of why the dealers are unable to sell new in a downturn like this, IMHO. Why would a former owner sold on these kinds of cars, like myself, buy new even if they had the money (and absorb much higher ins. prems. & reg. fees), when the “old one” runs fine?? Most of these cars have been maintained properly. If they are garaged throughout their lives, their 10 layers of paint are still beautiful after 20 yrs!
bearishgurl
ParticipantAs the owner of at least a dozen Toyota products throughout my life, I can truthfully say they are the most reliable vehicles on the face of the earth!
My first one was a 1970 (1969 1/2?) Corona Mark II (aka RT-43), yellow with a black vinyl top and LOADED (for the era).
http://designora.com/graphics/toyota-advertising/
Similar to the 7th image on this link but w/o the stripe (the new “hot” one). . . LOL! Mine had a little fancier grille with a “Crown” on it.
Lexus products with their double-wishbone steering and reinforced heavy steel doors run like champs and have a LONG LIFE. Besides my “quintessential neighbor” with the 15 year-old SC he and his 86-yr. old spouse “take for a spin” frequently, my Lexus is 16 years old and runs like a top. I’m planning on leaving again for another 3300 mi. road trip with it in a month. I also have friends with 14 and 19 year old luxury sedans, both which still “float like a boat” and get 29 MPG on the road, even though they have an 8 cyl. eng.
This is part of the problem of why the dealers are unable to sell new in a downturn like this, IMHO. Why would a former owner sold on these kinds of cars, like myself, buy new even if they had the money (and absorb much higher ins. prems. & reg. fees), when the “old one” runs fine?? Most of these cars have been maintained properly. If they are garaged throughout their lives, their 10 layers of paint are still beautiful after 20 yrs!
bearishgurl
ParticipantAs the owner of at least a dozen Toyota products throughout my life, I can truthfully say they are the most reliable vehicles on the face of the earth!
My first one was a 1970 (1969 1/2?) Corona Mark II (aka RT-43), yellow with a black vinyl top and LOADED (for the era).
http://designora.com/graphics/toyota-advertising/
Similar to the 7th image on this link but w/o the stripe (the new “hot” one). . . LOL! Mine had a little fancier grille with a “Crown” on it.
Lexus products with their double-wishbone steering and reinforced heavy steel doors run like champs and have a LONG LIFE. Besides my “quintessential neighbor” with the 15 year-old SC he and his 86-yr. old spouse “take for a spin” frequently, my Lexus is 16 years old and runs like a top. I’m planning on leaving again for another 3300 mi. road trip with it in a month. I also have friends with 14 and 19 year old luxury sedans, both which still “float like a boat” and get 29 MPG on the road, even though they have an 8 cyl. eng.
This is part of the problem of why the dealers are unable to sell new in a downturn like this, IMHO. Why would a former owner sold on these kinds of cars, like myself, buy new even if they had the money (and absorb much higher ins. prems. & reg. fees), when the “old one” runs fine?? Most of these cars have been maintained properly. If they are garaged throughout their lives, their 10 layers of paint are still beautiful after 20 yrs!
bearishgurl
ParticipantCorr. just 1.24 or 1.25 AC. (I’ve seen differing reports.) Read some more stories on the internet to refresh my memory. Brown was exceptionally smart and successful, but obviously was not used to dealing with the parochial-type mentality of the community, compared to the Bay area where she was from. Comm. groups formed for the purpose of distributing petitions against her DID sue her over an early supposed 41-bed “proposed” plan, but later dropped the case (other rpts. say she won or it was dismissed). Can’t tell which b/c there is no online register of actions for a case that old.
All the “signature-gathering” by the comm. group did no good as Brown didn’t violate any laws.
Can’t tell if a bus. permit was issued and then reneged on – differing accounts.
The neighbor-angst ultimately drove away her venture capital and Deepak Chopra, who was to run it as “Casa Simpatico.” When she later tried to rent her six token rooms by herself that she was allowed to without the business permit, she couldn’t make ends meet with the mortgage. Nevertheless she maintained the property until she left last year `even programming the rose garden to water itself, with a computer program she invented.’ Fascinating stories . . .
Even City of Enc. is quoted as saying the structure was built exactly as they themselves approved it.
It appears she put much more than $2M of her own cash into it. I still feel a little sorry for her.
bearishgurl
ParticipantCorr. just 1.24 or 1.25 AC. (I’ve seen differing reports.) Read some more stories on the internet to refresh my memory. Brown was exceptionally smart and successful, but obviously was not used to dealing with the parochial-type mentality of the community, compared to the Bay area where she was from. Comm. groups formed for the purpose of distributing petitions against her DID sue her over an early supposed 41-bed “proposed” plan, but later dropped the case (other rpts. say she won or it was dismissed). Can’t tell which b/c there is no online register of actions for a case that old.
All the “signature-gathering” by the comm. group did no good as Brown didn’t violate any laws.
Can’t tell if a bus. permit was issued and then reneged on – differing accounts.
The neighbor-angst ultimately drove away her venture capital and Deepak Chopra, who was to run it as “Casa Simpatico.” When she later tried to rent her six token rooms by herself that she was allowed to without the business permit, she couldn’t make ends meet with the mortgage. Nevertheless she maintained the property until she left last year `even programming the rose garden to water itself, with a computer program she invented.’ Fascinating stories . . .
Even City of Enc. is quoted as saying the structure was built exactly as they themselves approved it.
It appears she put much more than $2M of her own cash into it. I still feel a little sorry for her.
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