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Participant[quote=nocommonsense]I envy you for being able to make such a move. I say go for it. Having lived in various parts of the US, I really like the racial diversity in California, which would be my only reservation to move away. If you’re not a minority, there’s simply NO reason to miss California. Colorado is a great place. Enjoy it.[/quote]
nocommonsense, do you consider “Hispanic” a minority? When I left CO and moved to SD in the seventies, the state was heavily Hispanic overall and Denver was about 17% Black at that time. Many smaller cities and towns in CO have a >75% Hispanic population. CO’s leadership and representatives have ALWAYS been reflective of its population, even back then. The 2008 numbers suggest this as well.
http://www.classbrain.com/artstate/publish/article_1227.shtml
Acc. to the above link, Colo. had 71% of its citizens in 2008 claiming to be of “non-Hispanic caucasian” descent. I would consider it to be diversified. BTW, I “give the impression” that I am of one “race” but in fact am of mixed heritage and therefore am a “qualified minority.” 🙂
Denver to SD = similar demographics but VASTLY DIFFERENT terrain and weather.
Participant[quote=nocommonsense]I envy you for being able to make such a move. I say go for it. Having lived in various parts of the US, I really like the racial diversity in California, which would be my only reservation to move away. If you’re not a minority, there’s simply NO reason to miss California. Colorado is a great place. Enjoy it.[/quote]
nocommonsense, do you consider “Hispanic” a minority? When I left CO and moved to SD in the seventies, the state was heavily Hispanic overall and Denver was about 17% Black at that time. Many smaller cities and towns in CO have a >75% Hispanic population. CO’s leadership and representatives have ALWAYS been reflective of its population, even back then. The 2008 numbers suggest this as well.
http://www.classbrain.com/artstate/publish/article_1227.shtml
Acc. to the above link, Colo. had 71% of its citizens in 2008 claiming to be of “non-Hispanic caucasian” descent. I would consider it to be diversified. BTW, I “give the impression” that I am of one “race” but in fact am of mixed heritage and therefore am a “qualified minority.” 🙂
Denver to SD = similar demographics but VASTLY DIFFERENT terrain and weather.
Participant[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]I moved to Penasquitos from Denver (University and Hampden) about four years ago. Both of those areas are known for their schools (Cherry Creek district vs Poway District). I imagine that might be a consideration in your choice of Denver suburbs.[/quote]
Excellent area CBH and only about 6 mi. or so from dtn. I was familiar with that area as well as Washington Park, Bonnie Brae and Englewood / Greenwood Village. evolusd, the areas served by South HS, JFK HS, GWHS and CCHS are great well-located family areas blessed with naturally beautiful parks with 80+ yr. old trees, golf courses and lakes but ARE NOT comprised of NEW CONSTRUCTION such as what you may have seen in the MP communities you visited. Except for Cherry Creek area and “Parker” (further out, past tech cntr.), which may have developments as new as 20-25 yrs. old, those other areas are 50-100 years old.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(1) I read in 2007 that Colorado is the “least obese” state in the nation.[/quote]Piggs, dont laugh, but this is probably due to all the extra energy expended breathing.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(2) Red Rocks is gorgeous, but how often will you get there ? The same goes for skiing. Traveling up I-70 to the mountains on a winter weekend is no fun; the roads are crowded, icy, and dangerous.[/quote]Not if you approach the slopes from the west (Grand Junction, etc.) and leave towards the west. It may still be an icy and dangerous endeavor, but you don’t have the thousands of other drivers to slide into. Thus, the way back to CA after a ruff week on the slopes 🙂
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(4)Of course, housing is much cheaper. I rented in both places – the difference for rent was approx. $700/month . . . [/quote]This is interesting, CBH. When I looked on the Keller Williams Denver site recently, I noticed that asking prices (for listed props.) were not unlike SD’s for a comparable area. I don’t know about rents. Do you rent a larger house in PQ than you did in Denver?
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(5) Keep in mind the utilities. We had to pay for trash pickup from a private company (approx $50/month).[/quote]So true, there’s no antiquated “People’s Ordinance” when you leave SD. I also want to add heat for 8 mos. yr. In the above-mentioned areas, besides gas furnaces, radiant heat (used in apts.), baseboard (elec.) heat and even hot-water heat is still prevalent there. All are expensive.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]The infrastructure in our older area did not yet support cable connectivity or VOIP, so our internet connection was DSL and our phone bills were much higher.[/quote]
This is probably fixed by now. Check on if interested in a particular property.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]Don’t let the weather scare you. It’s true that the weather changes radically from day to day. At that elevation, when the sun is out (which is most of the time), 50 degrees can be short sleeve weather – just don’t stay in the shade. It snows like mad – two days later, it’s mostly melted away. The sun there is intense.[/quote]
Wear a lot of sunscreen if you tend to burn and apply it frequently to your children. There is no “ozone layer” there and it is EASY to burn quickly and badly, even on an overcast day. The sun beats down on the snow and reflects off it. I’ve seen many 20-something lift operators there with the leather skin of a 55 yr old construction worker.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]And mostly, don’t worry strictly about the numbers. . . [/quote]
If I was plunking down a hard-earned downpayment and mortgaging my life away, I WOULD be concerned about purchasing in an (unstable) zip that has or had >40% of “underwater” homeowners. I wouldn’t want to see my neighborhood turn into a weed-infested ghost town. Actually, I would have a problem investing in an area with more than 20%, but that’s just me. Study the (circa 11/08) map in the above link and find out if any zips you are interested in are better or worse off now.
Participant[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]I moved to Penasquitos from Denver (University and Hampden) about four years ago. Both of those areas are known for their schools (Cherry Creek district vs Poway District). I imagine that might be a consideration in your choice of Denver suburbs.[/quote]
Excellent area CBH and only about 6 mi. or so from dtn. I was familiar with that area as well as Washington Park, Bonnie Brae and Englewood / Greenwood Village. evolusd, the areas served by South HS, JFK HS, GWHS and CCHS are great well-located family areas blessed with naturally beautiful parks with 80+ yr. old trees, golf courses and lakes but ARE NOT comprised of NEW CONSTRUCTION such as what you may have seen in the MP communities you visited. Except for Cherry Creek area and “Parker” (further out, past tech cntr.), which may have developments as new as 20-25 yrs. old, those other areas are 50-100 years old.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(1) I read in 2007 that Colorado is the “least obese” state in the nation.[/quote]Piggs, dont laugh, but this is probably due to all the extra energy expended breathing.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(2) Red Rocks is gorgeous, but how often will you get there ? The same goes for skiing. Traveling up I-70 to the mountains on a winter weekend is no fun; the roads are crowded, icy, and dangerous.[/quote]Not if you approach the slopes from the west (Grand Junction, etc.) and leave towards the west. It may still be an icy and dangerous endeavor, but you don’t have the thousands of other drivers to slide into. Thus, the way back to CA after a ruff week on the slopes 🙂
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(4)Of course, housing is much cheaper. I rented in both places – the difference for rent was approx. $700/month . . . [/quote]This is interesting, CBH. When I looked on the Keller Williams Denver site recently, I noticed that asking prices (for listed props.) were not unlike SD’s for a comparable area. I don’t know about rents. Do you rent a larger house in PQ than you did in Denver?
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(5) Keep in mind the utilities. We had to pay for trash pickup from a private company (approx $50/month).[/quote]So true, there’s no antiquated “People’s Ordinance” when you leave SD. I also want to add heat for 8 mos. yr. In the above-mentioned areas, besides gas furnaces, radiant heat (used in apts.), baseboard (elec.) heat and even hot-water heat is still prevalent there. All are expensive.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]The infrastructure in our older area did not yet support cable connectivity or VOIP, so our internet connection was DSL and our phone bills were much higher.[/quote]
This is probably fixed by now. Check on if interested in a particular property.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]Don’t let the weather scare you. It’s true that the weather changes radically from day to day. At that elevation, when the sun is out (which is most of the time), 50 degrees can be short sleeve weather – just don’t stay in the shade. It snows like mad – two days later, it’s mostly melted away. The sun there is intense.[/quote]
Wear a lot of sunscreen if you tend to burn and apply it frequently to your children. There is no “ozone layer” there and it is EASY to burn quickly and badly, even on an overcast day. The sun beats down on the snow and reflects off it. I’ve seen many 20-something lift operators there with the leather skin of a 55 yr old construction worker.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]And mostly, don’t worry strictly about the numbers. . . [/quote]
If I was plunking down a hard-earned downpayment and mortgaging my life away, I WOULD be concerned about purchasing in an (unstable) zip that has or had >40% of “underwater” homeowners. I wouldn’t want to see my neighborhood turn into a weed-infested ghost town. Actually, I would have a problem investing in an area with more than 20%, but that’s just me. Study the (circa 11/08) map in the above link and find out if any zips you are interested in are better or worse off now.
Participant[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]I moved to Penasquitos from Denver (University and Hampden) about four years ago. Both of those areas are known for their schools (Cherry Creek district vs Poway District). I imagine that might be a consideration in your choice of Denver suburbs.[/quote]
Excellent area CBH and only about 6 mi. or so from dtn. I was familiar with that area as well as Washington Park, Bonnie Brae and Englewood / Greenwood Village. evolusd, the areas served by South HS, JFK HS, GWHS and CCHS are great well-located family areas blessed with naturally beautiful parks with 80+ yr. old trees, golf courses and lakes but ARE NOT comprised of NEW CONSTRUCTION such as what you may have seen in the MP communities you visited. Except for Cherry Creek area and “Parker” (further out, past tech cntr.), which may have developments as new as 20-25 yrs. old, those other areas are 50-100 years old.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(1) I read in 2007 that Colorado is the “least obese” state in the nation.[/quote]Piggs, dont laugh, but this is probably due to all the extra energy expended breathing.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(2) Red Rocks is gorgeous, but how often will you get there ? The same goes for skiing. Traveling up I-70 to the mountains on a winter weekend is no fun; the roads are crowded, icy, and dangerous.[/quote]Not if you approach the slopes from the west (Grand Junction, etc.) and leave towards the west. It may still be an icy and dangerous endeavor, but you don’t have the thousands of other drivers to slide into. Thus, the way back to CA after a ruff week on the slopes 🙂
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(4)Of course, housing is much cheaper. I rented in both places – the difference for rent was approx. $700/month . . . [/quote]This is interesting, CBH. When I looked on the Keller Williams Denver site recently, I noticed that asking prices (for listed props.) were not unlike SD’s for a comparable area. I don’t know about rents. Do you rent a larger house in PQ than you did in Denver?
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(5) Keep in mind the utilities. We had to pay for trash pickup from a private company (approx $50/month).[/quote]So true, there’s no antiquated “People’s Ordinance” when you leave SD. I also want to add heat for 8 mos. yr. In the above-mentioned areas, besides gas furnaces, radiant heat (used in apts.), baseboard (elec.) heat and even hot-water heat is still prevalent there. All are expensive.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]The infrastructure in our older area did not yet support cable connectivity or VOIP, so our internet connection was DSL and our phone bills were much higher.[/quote]
This is probably fixed by now. Check on if interested in a particular property.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]Don’t let the weather scare you. It’s true that the weather changes radically from day to day. At that elevation, when the sun is out (which is most of the time), 50 degrees can be short sleeve weather – just don’t stay in the shade. It snows like mad – two days later, it’s mostly melted away. The sun there is intense.[/quote]
Wear a lot of sunscreen if you tend to burn and apply it frequently to your children. There is no “ozone layer” there and it is EASY to burn quickly and badly, even on an overcast day. The sun beats down on the snow and reflects off it. I’ve seen many 20-something lift operators there with the leather skin of a 55 yr old construction worker.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]And mostly, don’t worry strictly about the numbers. . . [/quote]
If I was plunking down a hard-earned downpayment and mortgaging my life away, I WOULD be concerned about purchasing in an (unstable) zip that has or had >40% of “underwater” homeowners. I wouldn’t want to see my neighborhood turn into a weed-infested ghost town. Actually, I would have a problem investing in an area with more than 20%, but that’s just me. Study the (circa 11/08) map in the above link and find out if any zips you are interested in are better or worse off now.
Participant[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]I moved to Penasquitos from Denver (University and Hampden) about four years ago. Both of those areas are known for their schools (Cherry Creek district vs Poway District). I imagine that might be a consideration in your choice of Denver suburbs.[/quote]
Excellent area CBH and only about 6 mi. or so from dtn. I was familiar with that area as well as Washington Park, Bonnie Brae and Englewood / Greenwood Village. evolusd, the areas served by South HS, JFK HS, GWHS and CCHS are great well-located family areas blessed with naturally beautiful parks with 80+ yr. old trees, golf courses and lakes but ARE NOT comprised of NEW CONSTRUCTION such as what you may have seen in the MP communities you visited. Except for Cherry Creek area and “Parker” (further out, past tech cntr.), which may have developments as new as 20-25 yrs. old, those other areas are 50-100 years old.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(1) I read in 2007 that Colorado is the “least obese” state in the nation.[/quote]Piggs, dont laugh, but this is probably due to all the extra energy expended breathing.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(2) Red Rocks is gorgeous, but how often will you get there ? The same goes for skiing. Traveling up I-70 to the mountains on a winter weekend is no fun; the roads are crowded, icy, and dangerous.[/quote]Not if you approach the slopes from the west (Grand Junction, etc.) and leave towards the west. It may still be an icy and dangerous endeavor, but you don’t have the thousands of other drivers to slide into. Thus, the way back to CA after a ruff week on the slopes 🙂
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(4)Of course, housing is much cheaper. I rented in both places – the difference for rent was approx. $700/month . . . [/quote]This is interesting, CBH. When I looked on the Keller Williams Denver site recently, I noticed that asking prices (for listed props.) were not unlike SD’s for a comparable area. I don’t know about rents. Do you rent a larger house in PQ than you did in Denver?
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(5) Keep in mind the utilities. We had to pay for trash pickup from a private company (approx $50/month).[/quote]So true, there’s no antiquated “People’s Ordinance” when you leave SD. I also want to add heat for 8 mos. yr. In the above-mentioned areas, besides gas furnaces, radiant heat (used in apts.), baseboard (elec.) heat and even hot-water heat is still prevalent there. All are expensive.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]The infrastructure in our older area did not yet support cable connectivity or VOIP, so our internet connection was DSL and our phone bills were much higher.[/quote]
This is probably fixed by now. Check on if interested in a particular property.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]Don’t let the weather scare you. It’s true that the weather changes radically from day to day. At that elevation, when the sun is out (which is most of the time), 50 degrees can be short sleeve weather – just don’t stay in the shade. It snows like mad – two days later, it’s mostly melted away. The sun there is intense.[/quote]
Wear a lot of sunscreen if you tend to burn and apply it frequently to your children. There is no “ozone layer” there and it is EASY to burn quickly and badly, even on an overcast day. The sun beats down on the snow and reflects off it. I’ve seen many 20-something lift operators there with the leather skin of a 55 yr old construction worker.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]And mostly, don’t worry strictly about the numbers. . . [/quote]
If I was plunking down a hard-earned downpayment and mortgaging my life away, I WOULD be concerned about purchasing in an (unstable) zip that has or had >40% of “underwater” homeowners. I wouldn’t want to see my neighborhood turn into a weed-infested ghost town. Actually, I would have a problem investing in an area with more than 20%, but that’s just me. Study the (circa 11/08) map in the above link and find out if any zips you are interested in are better or worse off now.
Participant[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]I moved to Penasquitos from Denver (University and Hampden) about four years ago. Both of those areas are known for their schools (Cherry Creek district vs Poway District). I imagine that might be a consideration in your choice of Denver suburbs.[/quote]
Excellent area CBH and only about 6 mi. or so from dtn. I was familiar with that area as well as Washington Park, Bonnie Brae and Englewood / Greenwood Village. evolusd, the areas served by South HS, JFK HS, GWHS and CCHS are great well-located family areas blessed with naturally beautiful parks with 80+ yr. old trees, golf courses and lakes but ARE NOT comprised of NEW CONSTRUCTION such as what you may have seen in the MP communities you visited. Except for Cherry Creek area and “Parker” (further out, past tech cntr.), which may have developments as new as 20-25 yrs. old, those other areas are 50-100 years old.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(1) I read in 2007 that Colorado is the “least obese” state in the nation.[/quote]Piggs, dont laugh, but this is probably due to all the extra energy expended breathing.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(2) Red Rocks is gorgeous, but how often will you get there ? The same goes for skiing. Traveling up I-70 to the mountains on a winter weekend is no fun; the roads are crowded, icy, and dangerous.[/quote]Not if you approach the slopes from the west (Grand Junction, etc.) and leave towards the west. It may still be an icy and dangerous endeavor, but you don’t have the thousands of other drivers to slide into. Thus, the way back to CA after a ruff week on the slopes 🙂
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(4)Of course, housing is much cheaper. I rented in both places – the difference for rent was approx. $700/month . . . [/quote]This is interesting, CBH. When I looked on the Keller Williams Denver site recently, I noticed that asking prices (for listed props.) were not unlike SD’s for a comparable area. I don’t know about rents. Do you rent a larger house in PQ than you did in Denver?
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]
(5) Keep in mind the utilities. We had to pay for trash pickup from a private company (approx $50/month).[/quote]So true, there’s no antiquated “People’s Ordinance” when you leave SD. I also want to add heat for 8 mos. yr. In the above-mentioned areas, besides gas furnaces, radiant heat (used in apts.), baseboard (elec.) heat and even hot-water heat is still prevalent there. All are expensive.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]The infrastructure in our older area did not yet support cable connectivity or VOIP, so our internet connection was DSL and our phone bills were much higher.[/quote]
This is probably fixed by now. Check on if interested in a particular property.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]Don’t let the weather scare you. It’s true that the weather changes radically from day to day. At that elevation, when the sun is out (which is most of the time), 50 degrees can be short sleeve weather – just don’t stay in the shade. It snows like mad – two days later, it’s mostly melted away. The sun there is intense.[/quote]
Wear a lot of sunscreen if you tend to burn and apply it frequently to your children. There is no “ozone layer” there and it is EASY to burn quickly and badly, even on an overcast day. The sun beats down on the snow and reflects off it. I’ve seen many 20-something lift operators there with the leather skin of a 55 yr old construction worker.
[quote=CubicleBoundHelot]And mostly, don’t worry strictly about the numbers. . . [/quote]
If I was plunking down a hard-earned downpayment and mortgaging my life away, I WOULD be concerned about purchasing in an (unstable) zip that has or had >40% of “underwater” homeowners. I wouldn’t want to see my neighborhood turn into a weed-infested ghost town. Actually, I would have a problem investing in an area with more than 20%, but that’s just me. Study the (circa 11/08) map in the above link and find out if any zips you are interested in are better or worse off now.
Participant[quote=evolusd]I’ve given up. After graduating from USD in 2001 and watching the housing market boom and bust (not as far down as it should have gone due to govt intervention), my wife and I have given up on San Diego and are seriously considering a move to Denver.[/quote]
Why have you “given up” evolusd? SD prices are still falling. IMO, More patience is needed here.
[quote=evolusd]Just got back from a long weekend scouting various suburbs for a home for my family (me, wife, 2 little ones and counting). Found numerous 4-5 bedroom homes, 3,000+ sf in the $325k – $375k range within 20 miles of downtown, where I would likely be working.[/quote]
If you looked for properties in the non-coastal counties of CA (ex. RIV, San Bern., Placer, Merced, Stanislaus Counties), you would find these prices minus the harsh living conditions of CO.
[quote=evolusd]3. Every suburb/master planned community had tons of parks, walking/biking trails and lakes/streams. Many houses back to a greenbelt or open space, making yards feel much bigger.[/quote]
Are you suggesting that the lots in the MP communities ARE NOT actually big but just FEEL BIG?
SD County has many “master-planned communities” like this as well. Wherever you find them, you also find HOA dues. Do you know if CO has any community facilities bond acts such as the Mello-Roos Bonds in CA and if they are in force in the communities you are looking in? Since you had a concern about property taxes, IMHO, this is definitely something you should look into.
Evolusd, how do you know that “government intervention” isn’t currently “propping up” Denver’s prices to more than their actual value?? Recent online articles DO suggest that this IS happening.
If you are just sold on the mtns and skiing in CO, you can always go skiing once a year and keep your veh parked in the hotel/condo underground garage and LET IT SNOW, while you ski your way down to your room in the eves, then quickly depart for one-hr.+ of the hot tub and sauna, holding your jumbo plastic cup of wine (or whatever your pleasure is). I did this for YEARS to get my stress-free CO fix. When our week was up, we turned our veh. west and headed back to CA. Before exiting CO, we frequently stopped at Glenwood Sprs. and took a dip in the natural hot spring pool, then got back on the road with a new lease on life. In other words, you don’t have to actually live there, you can just play in it and then LEAVE 😉
Participant[quote=evolusd]I’ve given up. After graduating from USD in 2001 and watching the housing market boom and bust (not as far down as it should have gone due to govt intervention), my wife and I have given up on San Diego and are seriously considering a move to Denver.[/quote]
Why have you “given up” evolusd? SD prices are still falling. IMO, More patience is needed here.
[quote=evolusd]Just got back from a long weekend scouting various suburbs for a home for my family (me, wife, 2 little ones and counting). Found numerous 4-5 bedroom homes, 3,000+ sf in the $325k – $375k range within 20 miles of downtown, where I would likely be working.[/quote]
If you looked for properties in the non-coastal counties of CA (ex. RIV, San Bern., Placer, Merced, Stanislaus Counties), you would find these prices minus the harsh living conditions of CO.
[quote=evolusd]3. Every suburb/master planned community had tons of parks, walking/biking trails and lakes/streams. Many houses back to a greenbelt or open space, making yards feel much bigger.[/quote]
Are you suggesting that the lots in the MP communities ARE NOT actually big but just FEEL BIG?
SD County has many “master-planned communities” like this as well. Wherever you find them, you also find HOA dues. Do you know if CO has any community facilities bond acts such as the Mello-Roos Bonds in CA and if they are in force in the communities you are looking in? Since you had a concern about property taxes, IMHO, this is definitely something you should look into.
Evolusd, how do you know that “government intervention” isn’t currently “propping up” Denver’s prices to more than their actual value?? Recent online articles DO suggest that this IS happening.
If you are just sold on the mtns and skiing in CO, you can always go skiing once a year and keep your veh parked in the hotel/condo underground garage and LET IT SNOW, while you ski your way down to your room in the eves, then quickly depart for one-hr.+ of the hot tub and sauna, holding your jumbo plastic cup of wine (or whatever your pleasure is). I did this for YEARS to get my stress-free CO fix. When our week was up, we turned our veh. west and headed back to CA. Before exiting CO, we frequently stopped at Glenwood Sprs. and took a dip in the natural hot spring pool, then got back on the road with a new lease on life. In other words, you don’t have to actually live there, you can just play in it and then LEAVE 😉
Participant[quote=evolusd]I’ve given up. After graduating from USD in 2001 and watching the housing market boom and bust (not as far down as it should have gone due to govt intervention), my wife and I have given up on San Diego and are seriously considering a move to Denver.[/quote]
Why have you “given up” evolusd? SD prices are still falling. IMO, More patience is needed here.
[quote=evolusd]Just got back from a long weekend scouting various suburbs for a home for my family (me, wife, 2 little ones and counting). Found numerous 4-5 bedroom homes, 3,000+ sf in the $325k – $375k range within 20 miles of downtown, where I would likely be working.[/quote]
If you looked for properties in the non-coastal counties of CA (ex. RIV, San Bern., Placer, Merced, Stanislaus Counties), you would find these prices minus the harsh living conditions of CO.
[quote=evolusd]3. Every suburb/master planned community had tons of parks, walking/biking trails and lakes/streams. Many houses back to a greenbelt or open space, making yards feel much bigger.[/quote]
Are you suggesting that the lots in the MP communities ARE NOT actually big but just FEEL BIG?
SD County has many “master-planned communities” like this as well. Wherever you find them, you also find HOA dues. Do you know if CO has any community facilities bond acts such as the Mello-Roos Bonds in CA and if they are in force in the communities you are looking in? Since you had a concern about property taxes, IMHO, this is definitely something you should look into.
Evolusd, how do you know that “government intervention” isn’t currently “propping up” Denver’s prices to more than their actual value?? Recent online articles DO suggest that this IS happening.
If you are just sold on the mtns and skiing in CO, you can always go skiing once a year and keep your veh parked in the hotel/condo underground garage and LET IT SNOW, while you ski your way down to your room in the eves, then quickly depart for one-hr.+ of the hot tub and sauna, holding your jumbo plastic cup of wine (or whatever your pleasure is). I did this for YEARS to get my stress-free CO fix. When our week was up, we turned our veh. west and headed back to CA. Before exiting CO, we frequently stopped at Glenwood Sprs. and took a dip in the natural hot spring pool, then got back on the road with a new lease on life. In other words, you don’t have to actually live there, you can just play in it and then LEAVE 😉
Participant[quote=evolusd]I’ve given up. After graduating from USD in 2001 and watching the housing market boom and bust (not as far down as it should have gone due to govt intervention), my wife and I have given up on San Diego and are seriously considering a move to Denver.[/quote]
Why have you “given up” evolusd? SD prices are still falling. IMO, More patience is needed here.
[quote=evolusd]Just got back from a long weekend scouting various suburbs for a home for my family (me, wife, 2 little ones and counting). Found numerous 4-5 bedroom homes, 3,000+ sf in the $325k – $375k range within 20 miles of downtown, where I would likely be working.[/quote]
If you looked for properties in the non-coastal counties of CA (ex. RIV, San Bern., Placer, Merced, Stanislaus Counties), you would find these prices minus the harsh living conditions of CO.
[quote=evolusd]3. Every suburb/master planned community had tons of parks, walking/biking trails and lakes/streams. Many houses back to a greenbelt or open space, making yards feel much bigger.[/quote]
Are you suggesting that the lots in the MP communities ARE NOT actually big but just FEEL BIG?
SD County has many “master-planned communities” like this as well. Wherever you find them, you also find HOA dues. Do you know if CO has any community facilities bond acts such as the Mello-Roos Bonds in CA and if they are in force in the communities you are looking in? Since you had a concern about property taxes, IMHO, this is definitely something you should look into.
Evolusd, how do you know that “government intervention” isn’t currently “propping up” Denver’s prices to more than their actual value?? Recent online articles DO suggest that this IS happening.
If you are just sold on the mtns and skiing in CO, you can always go skiing once a year and keep your veh parked in the hotel/condo underground garage and LET IT SNOW, while you ski your way down to your room in the eves, then quickly depart for one-hr.+ of the hot tub and sauna, holding your jumbo plastic cup of wine (or whatever your pleasure is). I did this for YEARS to get my stress-free CO fix. When our week was up, we turned our veh. west and headed back to CA. Before exiting CO, we frequently stopped at Glenwood Sprs. and took a dip in the natural hot spring pool, then got back on the road with a new lease on life. In other words, you don’t have to actually live there, you can just play in it and then LEAVE 😉
Participant[quote=evolusd]I’ve given up. After graduating from USD in 2001 and watching the housing market boom and bust (not as far down as it should have gone due to govt intervention), my wife and I have given up on San Diego and are seriously considering a move to Denver.[/quote]
Why have you “given up” evolusd? SD prices are still falling. IMO, More patience is needed here.
[quote=evolusd]Just got back from a long weekend scouting various suburbs for a home for my family (me, wife, 2 little ones and counting). Found numerous 4-5 bedroom homes, 3,000+ sf in the $325k – $375k range within 20 miles of downtown, where I would likely be working.[/quote]
If you looked for properties in the non-coastal counties of CA (ex. RIV, San Bern., Placer, Merced, Stanislaus Counties), you would find these prices minus the harsh living conditions of CO.
[quote=evolusd]3. Every suburb/master planned community had tons of parks, walking/biking trails and lakes/streams. Many houses back to a greenbelt or open space, making yards feel much bigger.[/quote]
Are you suggesting that the lots in the MP communities ARE NOT actually big but just FEEL BIG?
SD County has many “master-planned communities” like this as well. Wherever you find them, you also find HOA dues. Do you know if CO has any community facilities bond acts such as the Mello-Roos Bonds in CA and if they are in force in the communities you are looking in? Since you had a concern about property taxes, IMHO, this is definitely something you should look into.
Evolusd, how do you know that “government intervention” isn’t currently “propping up” Denver’s prices to more than their actual value?? Recent online articles DO suggest that this IS happening.
If you are just sold on the mtns and skiing in CO, you can always go skiing once a year and keep your veh parked in the hotel/condo underground garage and LET IT SNOW, while you ski your way down to your room in the eves, then quickly depart for one-hr.+ of the hot tub and sauna, holding your jumbo plastic cup of wine (or whatever your pleasure is). I did this for YEARS to get my stress-free CO fix. When our week was up, we turned our veh. west and headed back to CA. Before exiting CO, we frequently stopped at Glenwood Sprs. and took a dip in the natural hot spring pool, then got back on the road with a new lease on life. In other words, you don’t have to actually live there, you can just play in it and then LEAVE 😉
ParticipantHere is the link, which was syndicated. It’s actually from 11/08. Since the article spans 5 years, one could assume from reading it that the Denver market began to “run up” with toxic mtgs about 11/03. That could have been a little before SD did but I don’t know.
Don’t know if the situation in some of these zips has improved since then. That would be something to check into.
ParticipantHere is the link, which was syndicated. It’s actually from 11/08. Since the article spans 5 years, one could assume from reading it that the Denver market began to “run up” with toxic mtgs about 11/03. That could have been a little before SD did but I don’t know.
Don’t know if the situation in some of these zips has improved since then. That would be something to check into.
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