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ParticipantComing back to the original topic about luck, IMHO, luck is at least 50% of success, but the other 50% needs to be attributed to perseverance, hard work, and risk taking.
An example would be the many immigrant “boat people” who risked their lives to get to America. The luck part is that they didn’t get killed while trying to escape. But, it takes the hard work to save up the money to get on one of those boats. It takes perseverance in trying and trying again if the first time fail. It take risk taking, knowing that if you get caught, you’ll be put into concentration camps and possibly get killed. So, sure, luck is part of it, but sometimes, you have to be willing to put yourself into a situation that can take advantage of that luck.
Participant[quote=pri_dk]So there is a line somewhere that needs to be drawn. But how do we determine where? I understand your point about STEM degrees, as I purposely setup a fairly uncontroversial example.
But why not liberal arts? Are they of no value at all? What about people that become lawyers? The rule of law is the most important aspect of our society. And who writes our history books?
I don’t have an answer, but I know it’s not so simple.
Do we limit our pool or lawyers, historians, and teachers to the children of the rich?[/quote]
Yes, there needs to be a line drawn. If we have unlimited funds, then sure, free education for all, regardless of degree. However, we don’t have unlimited funds and I put STEM degrees above all others, since those are the degrees that will keep us competitive with the rest of the world. Keep us innovating and keep us producing.I never said there are no value for liberal arts degrees. I just don’t feel like their value is as great as the cost. People can become lawyers if they want, but I don’t think there’s a shortage of lawyers like there are for STEM degrees. Yes, rule of law is very important in our society, but at the same time, you have to question, are there too many laws? After all, if you ask any politician how many laws they’ve created and they’ll be proud to list them to you. However, when you ask them how many they’ve repealed and most probably say none. So, more and more laws are being added. You have to take a step back and ask, are all of these laws worth it.
No, we do not limit our pool of lawyers, historians, teachers to children of the rich. Currently, that’s not the case. It wasn’t the case in the past and I don’t see it being the case of the future. Those who don’t care about $ are welcome to become a historian or a Shakespearean literature major. However, I think that’s a luxury, not a necessity. Lawyer is a risky profession. You take up the loan debt in hope of hitting out of the park and be a partner at a law firm. High risk, high return. for STEM degrees on the other hand, it’s a lot less likely to hit it out of the park, unless you’re one of the lucky few who are in the right place at the right time and hit it big with the .com IPO.
I don’t know why you bring teachers into the equation. But just like my answers wrt to degrees, I think teachers of STEM subjects should be paid more than teachers of liberal arts subjects.
BTW, right now, if you’re poor and are ambitious and smart, there’s a very likely chance you’ll get a free ride. I know a few HS senior this year who are in this boat. I also know a few when I graduated HS many years ago. So, aids have been out there and continue to be out there for the cream of the crop.
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=AN][quote=captcha][quote=bearishgurl]
Imagine what your life would be like if you lived in a third-world country and desperately needed even SOME of the health and human services that eligible Americans enjoy![/quote]
The solution is obvious – send freeloaders to Somalia for a year and they’ll stop complaining.[/quote]
Would those people also get their tax $ back for all the years they paid and not use the service?[/quote]Sure, just like H1B’s that get to collect the employee’s share of SS/medicare taxes when they leave.[/quote]
Nevermind.April 30, 2012 at 5:18 PM in reply to: OT: Well, you have until 2013 to buy stuff from amazon without paying state sales tax… #742499Participant[quote=pri_dk]I know everyone likes to pick on Brian.
But does anybody here actually bother to compute and pay online sales taxes every year?
Eh, um….of course I do…but I mean…maybe others don’t….[/quote]
That isn’t the point…Participant[quote=pri_dk]So let’s try a real-world example, one that I already mentioned:
Should the government support the education of poor kids with a strong aptitude for science?
Of do we limit our pool of doctors, computer scientists, aeronautical engineers, etc. to children of the rich?[/quote]
Yes they should and already are. But I would say they should only do it for STEM degrees. If you want to be a liberal arts major, do it on your own dimes. However, those liberal arts major are also getting government support right now too.Participant[quote=captcha][quote=bearishgurl]
Imagine what your life would be like if you lived in a third-world country and desperately needed even SOME of the health and human services that eligible Americans enjoy![/quote]
The solution is obvious – send freeloaders to Somalia for a year and they’ll stop complaining.[/quote]
Would those people also get their tax $ back for all the years they paid and not use the service?Participantdup.
Participant[quote=CA renter]What I HAVE said is that technology/innovation would not be where it is today without publicly-funded R&D. I have also said that our economy is based on a symbiotic relationship between public and private entities. [/quote]
That’s where I’d disagree. But there’s no way to prove one way or another, so we’ll just have to agree to disagree. But I’m pretty certain that technology/innovation would have been where they are today w/out publicly funded R&D.ParticipantBut in the same video, when they show the sign of the community, it clearly said Miraval in Torrey Highland. So, it’s seem like it’s just a miss informed lady.
ParticipantTo add on top of pri_dk’s point, it’s more than just the initial invention/discovery. Innovation comes at all stages, just the the initial discovery. Xerox invested the mouse and GUI. But who here thinks OSX, Windows, Android, iOS, etc. won’t exist without Xerox initial innovation. Xerox invented it, but they didn’t have the vision and the execution to bring that invention to the masses. Microsoft did that with Windows. They took the initial invention and found innovative ways to use that initial invention to bring PC to the masses and changed the whole landscape. Even after a product get released, innovations continue to occur. After all, iOS wasn’t the first mobile smartphone OS, but who here thinks Apple wouldn’t have come up with iOS if Microsoft didn’t come up with Windows Mobile or Palm with PalmOS? The smartphone market wouldn’t be where we are today if Apple didn’t innovate and came up with iOS. Now, Android have taken over the torch. Bottom line is, innovation happens everywhere and all the time at every stage of the development. It not just about the initial discovery.
ParticipantAn API score if 892 and API rank of 9 out of 10 is not very good?
The schools are top notch (might not be the best, but it is top notch). I’d say A average (9 out of 10) is top notch. The houses are on Carmel Valley Rd and they did say the zip is 92128, which is not Carmel Valley. Based on their website: http://www.davidsoncommunities.com/communities/miraval-at-torrey-highlands/, they did say at Torrey Highlands, not at Carmel Valley. So, what’s the problem? How are they misleading you?
Participant$110 seems about right. Reasonable or not is different for everyone. To me, it’s not, that’s why I decided to DIY the pool maintenance. Once you get the hang of it, it’s a synch.
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Best of luck to you. I am pretty certain none of us down in SD envy what kind of market you have to compete in.[/quote]
I’m envious 🙂Participant[quote=walterwhite]Professional advice is sometimes bad too. But at least you can sue them and collect.[/quote]
How many people successfully sue their professional real estate agent for suggesting them to buy in 2005 and collect? -
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