[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: No hurt feelings. And, no, I’m not arguing that the US has some moral imperative to influence world affairs. The problem is this: When the US has withdrawn from the world stage, like in the 1930s, it creates a vacuum and the potential for bad things to happen, such as the rise of fascism in Europe, and Japanese militarism in the Pacific.

The period of the late 1970s is another excellent example. The Soviets enjoyed tremendous sway in world affairs, and the US had pulled back as a result of Vietnam, Watergate, the Iran hostage crisis, etc. When Reagan came to power, he immediately set about reversing that course, and to great effect. In my mind, it is inarguable that this was a good thing, and it culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact forces. Were some of the methods used questionable? Absolutely.

A weak US provided the opportunity for Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda to strike us in 2001. This perceived weakness was derived from our unwillingness to strike back after the embassy bombings, the first World Trade Center bombing, Khobar Towers in Saudi, the Cole incident and our abrupt departure from Somalia.

What do you think would happen if we effected a similarly abrupt exit from Iraq?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: No hurt feelings. And, no, I’m not arguing that the US has some moral imperative to influence world affairs. The problem is this: When the US has withdrawn from the world stage, like in the 1930s, it creates a vacuum and the potential for bad things to happen, such as the rise of fascism in Europe, and Japanese militarism in the Pacific.

The period of the late 1970s is another excellent example. The Soviets enjoyed tremendous sway in world affairs, and the US had pulled back as a result of Vietnam, Watergate, the Iran hostage crisis, etc. When Reagan came to power, he immediately set about reversing that course, and to great effect. In my mind, it is inarguable that this was a good thing, and it culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact forces. Were some of the methods used questionable? Absolutely.

A weak US provided the opportunity for Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda to strike us in 2001. This perceived weakness was derived from our unwillingness to strike back after the embassy bombings, the first World Trade Center bombing, Khobar Towers in Saudi, the Cole incident and our abrupt departure from Somalia.

What do you think would happen if we effected a similarly abrupt exit from Iraq?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: No hurt feelings. And, no, I’m not arguing that the US has some moral imperative to influence world affairs. The problem is this: When the US has withdrawn from the world stage, like in the 1930s, it creates a vacuum and the potential for bad things to happen, such as the rise of fascism in Europe, and Japanese militarism in the Pacific.

The period of the late 1970s is another excellent example. The Soviets enjoyed tremendous sway in world affairs, and the US had pulled back as a result of Vietnam, Watergate, the Iran hostage crisis, etc. When Reagan came to power, he immediately set about reversing that course, and to great effect. In my mind, it is inarguable that this was a good thing, and it culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact forces. Were some of the methods used questionable? Absolutely.

A weak US provided the opportunity for Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda to strike us in 2001. This perceived weakness was derived from our unwillingness to strike back after the embassy bombings, the first World Trade Center bombing, Khobar Towers in Saudi, the Cole incident and our abrupt departure from Somalia.

What do you think would happen if we effected a similarly abrupt exit from Iraq?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: No hurt feelings. And, no, I’m not arguing that the US has some moral imperative to influence world affairs. The problem is this: When the US has withdrawn from the world stage, like in the 1930s, it creates a vacuum and the potential for bad things to happen, such as the rise of fascism in Europe, and Japanese militarism in the Pacific.

The period of the late 1970s is another excellent example. The Soviets enjoyed tremendous sway in world affairs, and the US had pulled back as a result of Vietnam, Watergate, the Iran hostage crisis, etc. When Reagan came to power, he immediately set about reversing that course, and to great effect. In my mind, it is inarguable that this was a good thing, and it culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact forces. Were some of the methods used questionable? Absolutely.

A weak US provided the opportunity for Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda to strike us in 2001. This perceived weakness was derived from our unwillingness to strike back after the embassy bombings, the first World Trade Center bombing, Khobar Towers in Saudi, the Cole incident and our abrupt departure from Somalia.

What do you think would happen if we effected a similarly abrupt exit from Iraq?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

marion: Would it surprise you to know that I don’t own a single bow tie? Not one.

Carrying on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

marion: Would it surprise you to know that I don’t own a single bow tie? Not one.

Carrying on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

marion: Would it surprise you to know that I don’t own a single bow tie? Not one.

Carrying on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

marion: Would it surprise you to know that I don’t own a single bow tie? Not one.

Carrying on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

marion: Would it surprise you to know that I don’t own a single bow tie? Not one.

Carrying on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: I don’t subscribe to the notion of the US as being “blessed by God” (from a special providence vantage), rather I believe that we enjoy tremendous natural resources, economic and military power and what the British called “Splendid Isolation”, our being protected by two oceans.

I agree that Iraq has strategic importance, I also believe that if a Democrat is elected in ’08, we won’t waste any time in trying to get out and as fast as possible.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: I don’t subscribe to the notion of the US as being “blessed by God” (from a special providence vantage), rather I believe that we enjoy tremendous natural resources, economic and military power and what the British called “Splendid Isolation”, our being protected by two oceans.

I agree that Iraq has strategic importance, I also believe that if a Democrat is elected in ’08, we won’t waste any time in trying to get out and as fast as possible.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: I don’t subscribe to the notion of the US as being “blessed by God” (from a special providence vantage), rather I believe that we enjoy tremendous natural resources, economic and military power and what the British called “Splendid Isolation”, our being protected by two oceans.

I agree that Iraq has strategic importance, I also believe that if a Democrat is elected in ’08, we won’t waste any time in trying to get out and as fast as possible.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: I don’t subscribe to the notion of the US as being “blessed by God” (from a special providence vantage), rather I believe that we enjoy tremendous natural resources, economic and military power and what the British called “Splendid Isolation”, our being protected by two oceans.

I agree that Iraq has strategic importance, I also believe that if a Democrat is elected in ’08, we won’t waste any time in trying to get out and as fast as possible.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: I don’t subscribe to the notion of the US as being “blessed by God” (from a special providence vantage), rather I believe that we enjoy tremendous natural resources, economic and military power and what the British called “Splendid Isolation”, our being protected by two oceans.

I agree that Iraq has strategic importance, I also believe that if a Democrat is elected in ’08, we won’t waste any time in trying to get out and as fast as possible.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

marion: Really? Every single thing? So, our defeating the Soviets in the Cold War was decided by some gypsy and a crystal ball? Wow.

Glad to see you didn’t spend the 80’s reading tabloids and listening to Wham!.

Oy.

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