[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I think the next four years is pretty much a suicide mission for either McCain or Obama. The hole is so deep at this point (similar to when Carter came to power) that I don’t see either of them being able (at least in a four year term) to make significant headway. You need at least two terms to make a difference and, given the way things are, neither would be afforded the opportunity.

The country (and the opposition party) would hold them up as a scapegoat and they’d be done after the first term.

I think we should hire Vladimir Putin to run things for a while. That mofo looks like he gets s**t done. Of course, we’d all wind up wearing little fur hats with red stars on them, but it’s a small price to pay.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I think the next four years is pretty much a suicide mission for either McCain or Obama. The hole is so deep at this point (similar to when Carter came to power) that I don’t see either of them being able (at least in a four year term) to make significant headway. You need at least two terms to make a difference and, given the way things are, neither would be afforded the opportunity.

The country (and the opposition party) would hold them up as a scapegoat and they’d be done after the first term.

I think we should hire Vladimir Putin to run things for a while. That mofo looks like he gets s**t done. Of course, we’d all wind up wearing little fur hats with red stars on them, but it’s a small price to pay.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I think the next four years is pretty much a suicide mission for either McCain or Obama. The hole is so deep at this point (similar to when Carter came to power) that I don’t see either of them being able (at least in a four year term) to make significant headway. You need at least two terms to make a difference and, given the way things are, neither would be afforded the opportunity.

The country (and the opposition party) would hold them up as a scapegoat and they’d be done after the first term.

I think we should hire Vladimir Putin to run things for a while. That mofo looks like he gets s**t done. Of course, we’d all wind up wearing little fur hats with red stars on them, but it’s a small price to pay.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: I think the next four years is pretty much a suicide mission for either McCain or Obama. The hole is so deep at this point (similar to when Carter came to power) that I don’t see either of them being able (at least in a four year term) to make significant headway. You need at least two terms to make a difference and, given the way things are, neither would be afforded the opportunity.

The country (and the opposition party) would hold them up as a scapegoat and they’d be done after the first term.

I think we should hire Vladimir Putin to run things for a while. That mofo looks like he gets s**t done. Of course, we’d all wind up wearing little fur hats with red stars on them, but it’s a small price to pay.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Hitler clearly laid out his plans as early as the 1920s in his book “Mein Kampf”. Unfortunately, and with few exceptions, no one in power during his rise to power in the 1930s took him seriously.

One of the exceptions, Winston Churchill, was roundly condemned for his stance on Hitler and Germany, and was thought to be agitating for another war. Sadly, he was proved right in his statements about Hitler and Germany’s plans.

Iran has been very clear in their desire to eliminate both Israel and the US. Much like the British, Americans and French during the 1930s, they are being ignored or the possible threat is being downplayed.

If Iran develops nuke capability, all they need to do following is secure a SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) or MRBM (medium-range ballistic missile) system for delivery (and the Russians have buttloads of these available for hard currency sale) and they could hit Tel Aviv comfortably. Anyone here think they wouldn’t, if they could?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Hitler clearly laid out his plans as early as the 1920s in his book “Mein Kampf”. Unfortunately, and with few exceptions, no one in power during his rise to power in the 1930s took him seriously.

One of the exceptions, Winston Churchill, was roundly condemned for his stance on Hitler and Germany, and was thought to be agitating for another war. Sadly, he was proved right in his statements about Hitler and Germany’s plans.

Iran has been very clear in their desire to eliminate both Israel and the US. Much like the British, Americans and French during the 1930s, they are being ignored or the possible threat is being downplayed.

If Iran develops nuke capability, all they need to do following is secure a SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) or MRBM (medium-range ballistic missile) system for delivery (and the Russians have buttloads of these available for hard currency sale) and they could hit Tel Aviv comfortably. Anyone here think they wouldn’t, if they could?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Hitler clearly laid out his plans as early as the 1920s in his book “Mein Kampf”. Unfortunately, and with few exceptions, no one in power during his rise to power in the 1930s took him seriously.

One of the exceptions, Winston Churchill, was roundly condemned for his stance on Hitler and Germany, and was thought to be agitating for another war. Sadly, he was proved right in his statements about Hitler and Germany’s plans.

Iran has been very clear in their desire to eliminate both Israel and the US. Much like the British, Americans and French during the 1930s, they are being ignored or the possible threat is being downplayed.

If Iran develops nuke capability, all they need to do following is secure a SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) or MRBM (medium-range ballistic missile) system for delivery (and the Russians have buttloads of these available for hard currency sale) and they could hit Tel Aviv comfortably. Anyone here think they wouldn’t, if they could?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Hitler clearly laid out his plans as early as the 1920s in his book “Mein Kampf”. Unfortunately, and with few exceptions, no one in power during his rise to power in the 1930s took him seriously.

One of the exceptions, Winston Churchill, was roundly condemned for his stance on Hitler and Germany, and was thought to be agitating for another war. Sadly, he was proved right in his statements about Hitler and Germany’s plans.

Iran has been very clear in their desire to eliminate both Israel and the US. Much like the British, Americans and French during the 1930s, they are being ignored or the possible threat is being downplayed.

If Iran develops nuke capability, all they need to do following is secure a SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) or MRBM (medium-range ballistic missile) system for delivery (and the Russians have buttloads of these available for hard currency sale) and they could hit Tel Aviv comfortably. Anyone here think they wouldn’t, if they could?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Hitler clearly laid out his plans as early as the 1920s in his book “Mein Kampf”. Unfortunately, and with few exceptions, no one in power during his rise to power in the 1930s took him seriously.

One of the exceptions, Winston Churchill, was roundly condemned for his stance on Hitler and Germany, and was thought to be agitating for another war. Sadly, he was proved right in his statements about Hitler and Germany’s plans.

Iran has been very clear in their desire to eliminate both Israel and the US. Much like the British, Americans and French during the 1930s, they are being ignored or the possible threat is being downplayed.

If Iran develops nuke capability, all they need to do following is secure a SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) or MRBM (medium-range ballistic missile) system for delivery (and the Russians have buttloads of these available for hard currency sale) and they could hit Tel Aviv comfortably. Anyone here think they wouldn’t, if they could?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: Ha! Thank God I was sitting down! You’re a hoot, ya gangly ex-Navy pinko (and I say that with love).

Hey, if you see a crazy redneck looking mofo in a John Deere hat and overalls driving through Jamul with a bottle of tequila and a handgun, that would be me.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: Ha! Thank God I was sitting down! You’re a hoot, ya gangly ex-Navy pinko (and I say that with love).

Hey, if you see a crazy redneck looking mofo in a John Deere hat and overalls driving through Jamul with a bottle of tequila and a handgun, that would be me.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: Ha! Thank God I was sitting down! You’re a hoot, ya gangly ex-Navy pinko (and I say that with love).

Hey, if you see a crazy redneck looking mofo in a John Deere hat and overalls driving through Jamul with a bottle of tequila and a handgun, that would be me.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: Ha! Thank God I was sitting down! You’re a hoot, ya gangly ex-Navy pinko (and I say that with love).

Hey, if you see a crazy redneck looking mofo in a John Deere hat and overalls driving through Jamul with a bottle of tequila and a handgun, that would be me.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Rus: Ha! Thank God I was sitting down! You’re a hoot, ya gangly ex-Navy pinko (and I say that with love).

Hey, if you see a crazy redneck looking mofo in a John Deere hat and overalls driving through Jamul with a bottle of tequila and a handgun, that would be me.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Shadowfax: Thanks for the thoughtful answer. I was in 6th grade when Jimmy Carter took office, and both of my parents were good Midwestern Democrats (my dad was from Chicago and my mom was from Detroit) who were thrilled to have a Dem in the White House.

Reagan was elected my sophmore year of high school and, by then, even my folks (who were pretty staunch) were ready for a change.

I think most of this country is pretty much ready for a change. My concern with Obama is that he is being imbued with nearly messianic powers. People are so desperate for something new that they’ve latched on to him and his message in the fervent hope that we’ll get some sort of respite from the last eight years. His world tour shows that as well.

The problem I have is that he remains something of a mystery to me. The Zakaria article attempted to offer a view of his foreign policy, but was wholly unsupported by any sort of foreign policy experience or writings. Granted, this is not Obama’s fault, per se, in that he is too new to the scene to have either.

His speeches are tremendous and he is one of the most gifted orators I have seen (without humor or malice, he reminds me of Reagan), but what is he really saying? Peggy Noonan, one of Reagan’s speechwriters, wrote a piece in the WSJ saying essentially the same thing.

I respect McCain as a person (due to his experiences during Vietnam), but won’t vote for him, in large part due to his flip-flopping and pandering to the Far Right constituency.

Yeah, I know that a vote cast for the Independents or Libertarians is one cast for McCain, but I am too tired from these last 16 years to vote either D or R.

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