[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Iran is nuking us next Tuesday. And the liberal moonbats don’t believe it and are hurling epithets at the neocons, who want to use this is a pretext for invading Iran, North Korea, China and Botswana.

Did you get into Guat City at all? Or Tegoose? How about Tamarindo in Costa Rica? Great places to party.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Iran is nuking us next Tuesday. And the liberal moonbats don’t believe it and are hurling epithets at the neocons, who want to use this is a pretext for invading Iran, North Korea, China and Botswana.

Did you get into Guat City at all? Or Tegoose? How about Tamarindo in Costa Rica? Great places to party.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Iran is nuking us next Tuesday. And the liberal moonbats don’t believe it and are hurling epithets at the neocons, who want to use this is a pretext for invading Iran, North Korea, China and Botswana.

Did you get into Guat City at all? Or Tegoose? How about Tamarindo in Costa Rica? Great places to party.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Iran is nuking us next Tuesday. And the liberal moonbats don’t believe it and are hurling epithets at the neocons, who want to use this is a pretext for invading Iran, North Korea, China and Botswana.

Did you get into Guat City at all? Or Tegoose? How about Tamarindo in Costa Rica? Great places to party.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Okay, I am probably violating some sort of OSA deal here, but look up DEA Operation Snowcap. And we knew damn well what Noriega was up to, and we knew it for quite a while.

The US KH/Vulture satellites (the “Keyhole” program, so named because the cameras could look through a keyhole from space) have the ability to read licenses plates from orbit, but we cannot find coca fields. The NSA can literally eavesdrop on any conversation in the Western Hemisphere, but we cannot find the drug lords. It strains credulity a little bit, especially since we used this technology to find insurgent leaders and their cells. And this was in the mid- to late-1980s.

I’ve worked with IDF and Mossad before, and they are frickin’ trigger happy cowboys. With no sense of humor whatsoever.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Okay, I am probably violating some sort of OSA deal here, but look up DEA Operation Snowcap. And we knew damn well what Noriega was up to, and we knew it for quite a while.

The US KH/Vulture satellites (the “Keyhole” program, so named because the cameras could look through a keyhole from space) have the ability to read licenses plates from orbit, but we cannot find coca fields. The NSA can literally eavesdrop on any conversation in the Western Hemisphere, but we cannot find the drug lords. It strains credulity a little bit, especially since we used this technology to find insurgent leaders and their cells. And this was in the mid- to late-1980s.

I’ve worked with IDF and Mossad before, and they are frickin’ trigger happy cowboys. With no sense of humor whatsoever.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Okay, I am probably violating some sort of OSA deal here, but look up DEA Operation Snowcap. And we knew damn well what Noriega was up to, and we knew it for quite a while.

The US KH/Vulture satellites (the “Keyhole” program, so named because the cameras could look through a keyhole from space) have the ability to read licenses plates from orbit, but we cannot find coca fields. The NSA can literally eavesdrop on any conversation in the Western Hemisphere, but we cannot find the drug lords. It strains credulity a little bit, especially since we used this technology to find insurgent leaders and their cells. And this was in the mid- to late-1980s.

I’ve worked with IDF and Mossad before, and they are frickin’ trigger happy cowboys. With no sense of humor whatsoever.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Okay, I am probably violating some sort of OSA deal here, but look up DEA Operation Snowcap. And we knew damn well what Noriega was up to, and we knew it for quite a while.

The US KH/Vulture satellites (the “Keyhole” program, so named because the cameras could look through a keyhole from space) have the ability to read licenses plates from orbit, but we cannot find coca fields. The NSA can literally eavesdrop on any conversation in the Western Hemisphere, but we cannot find the drug lords. It strains credulity a little bit, especially since we used this technology to find insurgent leaders and their cells. And this was in the mid- to late-1980s.

I’ve worked with IDF and Mossad before, and they are frickin’ trigger happy cowboys. With no sense of humor whatsoever.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: Okay, I am probably violating some sort of OSA deal here, but look up DEA Operation Snowcap. And we knew damn well what Noriega was up to, and we knew it for quite a while.

The US KH/Vulture satellites (the “Keyhole” program, so named because the cameras could look through a keyhole from space) have the ability to read licenses plates from orbit, but we cannot find coca fields. The NSA can literally eavesdrop on any conversation in the Western Hemisphere, but we cannot find the drug lords. It strains credulity a little bit, especially since we used this technology to find insurgent leaders and their cells. And this was in the mid- to late-1980s.

I’ve worked with IDF and Mossad before, and they are frickin’ trigger happy cowboys. With no sense of humor whatsoever.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

JordanT: Couple of things. First, I agree not to let irrational fears decide our policies, and am personally against pre-emptive action, either directly by US forces or by proxy (Israel).

Second, you should go back and check your history vis-a-vis Germany and the 1930s. Hitler had not “invaded” anyone during the period of 1936 – 1938. He was essentially given Austria (during the Anschluss) and Czechoslovakia (which had a strong, modern military and could have stopped Hitler in his tracks had he tried to invade).

It was the unwillingness of Britain and France to back up their “negotiations” with any sort of military action that emboldened Hitler to finally call their bluff and invade Poland.

In point of fact, the French military was BOTH quantitively and qualitatively superior to the Germans during the 1940 campaign. What the French suffered from was lack of will and martial spirit. Hitler could have been cut off at the knees as early as 1937 – 38 had either the British or the French had the balls to do so. Thus, Winston Churchill’s reference to WWII as the “unnecessary war”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

JordanT: Couple of things. First, I agree not to let irrational fears decide our policies, and am personally against pre-emptive action, either directly by US forces or by proxy (Israel).

Second, you should go back and check your history vis-a-vis Germany and the 1930s. Hitler had not “invaded” anyone during the period of 1936 – 1938. He was essentially given Austria (during the Anschluss) and Czechoslovakia (which had a strong, modern military and could have stopped Hitler in his tracks had he tried to invade).

It was the unwillingness of Britain and France to back up their “negotiations” with any sort of military action that emboldened Hitler to finally call their bluff and invade Poland.

In point of fact, the French military was BOTH quantitively and qualitatively superior to the Germans during the 1940 campaign. What the French suffered from was lack of will and martial spirit. Hitler could have been cut off at the knees as early as 1937 – 38 had either the British or the French had the balls to do so. Thus, Winston Churchill’s reference to WWII as the “unnecessary war”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

JordanT: Couple of things. First, I agree not to let irrational fears decide our policies, and am personally against pre-emptive action, either directly by US forces or by proxy (Israel).

Second, you should go back and check your history vis-a-vis Germany and the 1930s. Hitler had not “invaded” anyone during the period of 1936 – 1938. He was essentially given Austria (during the Anschluss) and Czechoslovakia (which had a strong, modern military and could have stopped Hitler in his tracks had he tried to invade).

It was the unwillingness of Britain and France to back up their “negotiations” with any sort of military action that emboldened Hitler to finally call their bluff and invade Poland.

In point of fact, the French military was BOTH quantitively and qualitatively superior to the Germans during the 1940 campaign. What the French suffered from was lack of will and martial spirit. Hitler could have been cut off at the knees as early as 1937 – 38 had either the British or the French had the balls to do so. Thus, Winston Churchill’s reference to WWII as the “unnecessary war”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

JordanT: Couple of things. First, I agree not to let irrational fears decide our policies, and am personally against pre-emptive action, either directly by US forces or by proxy (Israel).

Second, you should go back and check your history vis-a-vis Germany and the 1930s. Hitler had not “invaded” anyone during the period of 1936 – 1938. He was essentially given Austria (during the Anschluss) and Czechoslovakia (which had a strong, modern military and could have stopped Hitler in his tracks had he tried to invade).

It was the unwillingness of Britain and France to back up their “negotiations” with any sort of military action that emboldened Hitler to finally call their bluff and invade Poland.

In point of fact, the French military was BOTH quantitively and qualitatively superior to the Germans during the 1940 campaign. What the French suffered from was lack of will and martial spirit. Hitler could have been cut off at the knees as early as 1937 – 38 had either the British or the French had the balls to do so. Thus, Winston Churchill’s reference to WWII as the “unnecessary war”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

JordanT: Couple of things. First, I agree not to let irrational fears decide our policies, and am personally against pre-emptive action, either directly by US forces or by proxy (Israel).

Second, you should go back and check your history vis-a-vis Germany and the 1930s. Hitler had not “invaded” anyone during the period of 1936 – 1938. He was essentially given Austria (during the Anschluss) and Czechoslovakia (which had a strong, modern military and could have stopped Hitler in his tracks had he tried to invade).

It was the unwillingness of Britain and France to back up their “negotiations” with any sort of military action that emboldened Hitler to finally call their bluff and invade Poland.

In point of fact, the French military was BOTH quantitively and qualitatively superior to the Germans during the 1940 campaign. What the French suffered from was lack of will and martial spirit. Hitler could have been cut off at the knees as early as 1937 – 38 had either the British or the French had the balls to do so. Thus, Winston Churchill’s reference to WWII as the “unnecessary war”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Nost: I spent three years in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras as a military advisor. We used to call Guatemala “the Land of Very Bad Things” because of the genocidal nature of the government.

You want to view a real tool, go Google General Rios Montt, who ran the show for a bit. Guy was a homicidal nutjob who believed God Himself appointed him to cleanse the country of communism. No lie.

Guatemala was overrun with former Mossad and IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) dudes as well. Definitely a no bueno situation.

Guatemala was another government that was overthrown with US (read CIA) help in 1954.

Someone on another thread submitted a comment from retired Marine Smedley Butler, who was the point man for the US in the Caribbean during the Banana Wars (1900 – 1940) when the US was either deposing unfriendly leaders and replacing them with pro-US leaders or was shoring up various oligarchies, families or businesses down there.

The manual that we used was the USMC Guide to Small Wars, circa 1940. Fascinating book, and still in use to this day. I have a buddy down in Bogota who is using it at present.

Again, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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