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Allan from Fallbrook
Participanttc: I’m game. What’re we arguing about again?
Participanttc: I’m game. What’re we arguing about again?
ParticipantDuke: Thanks. I think the point I always try to make is this: You can debate a point vigorously, while still remaining professional and courteous. I would rather argue with someone that holds beliefs that are the polar opposite of mine, because it forces me to marshal my resources, engage my brain and MAKE MY POINT.
Those that resort to ad hominem or simply shilling an intellectually bankrupt position (whether coming from the right or left), dumb the discourse down and turn away those that would find the discussion and debate engaging and would otherwise participate.
No one likes being told they are an idiot, especially by someone who comes across as overbearing, snide and self-righteous.
Keep it clean, keep it fair and keep it interesting.
ParticipantDuke: Thanks. I think the point I always try to make is this: You can debate a point vigorously, while still remaining professional and courteous. I would rather argue with someone that holds beliefs that are the polar opposite of mine, because it forces me to marshal my resources, engage my brain and MAKE MY POINT.
Those that resort to ad hominem or simply shilling an intellectually bankrupt position (whether coming from the right or left), dumb the discourse down and turn away those that would find the discussion and debate engaging and would otherwise participate.
No one likes being told they are an idiot, especially by someone who comes across as overbearing, snide and self-righteous.
Keep it clean, keep it fair and keep it interesting.
ParticipantDuke: Thanks. I think the point I always try to make is this: You can debate a point vigorously, while still remaining professional and courteous. I would rather argue with someone that holds beliefs that are the polar opposite of mine, because it forces me to marshal my resources, engage my brain and MAKE MY POINT.
Those that resort to ad hominem or simply shilling an intellectually bankrupt position (whether coming from the right or left), dumb the discourse down and turn away those that would find the discussion and debate engaging and would otherwise participate.
No one likes being told they are an idiot, especially by someone who comes across as overbearing, snide and self-righteous.
Keep it clean, keep it fair and keep it interesting.
ParticipantDuke: Thanks. I think the point I always try to make is this: You can debate a point vigorously, while still remaining professional and courteous. I would rather argue with someone that holds beliefs that are the polar opposite of mine, because it forces me to marshal my resources, engage my brain and MAKE MY POINT.
Those that resort to ad hominem or simply shilling an intellectually bankrupt position (whether coming from the right or left), dumb the discourse down and turn away those that would find the discussion and debate engaging and would otherwise participate.
No one likes being told they are an idiot, especially by someone who comes across as overbearing, snide and self-righteous.
Keep it clean, keep it fair and keep it interesting.
ParticipantDuke: Thanks. I think the point I always try to make is this: You can debate a point vigorously, while still remaining professional and courteous. I would rather argue with someone that holds beliefs that are the polar opposite of mine, because it forces me to marshal my resources, engage my brain and MAKE MY POINT.
Those that resort to ad hominem or simply shilling an intellectually bankrupt position (whether coming from the right or left), dumb the discourse down and turn away those that would find the discussion and debate engaging and would otherwise participate.
No one likes being told they are an idiot, especially by someone who comes across as overbearing, snide and self-righteous.
Keep it clean, keep it fair and keep it interesting.
ParticipantDan: Abkhazian Roulette? Ossetian Roulette?
ParticipantDan: Abkhazian Roulette? Ossetian Roulette?
ParticipantDan: Abkhazian Roulette? Ossetian Roulette?
ParticipantDan: Abkhazian Roulette? Ossetian Roulette?
ParticipantDan: Abkhazian Roulette? Ossetian Roulette?
Participantgandalf: I was going to respond to Casca and his lionizing the Nazis with a quote from Nietzsche (“Whoever fights monsters should take care not to become one”), but I think it is more apropos here.
Why is dialogue, discourse and decorum important? Because it helps separate you from the people you are battling. Another great expression is the one from Booker T. Washington: “One man cannot hold another man down in the ditch without remaining down in the ditch with him.”
Wingnuts are not a just a recent happening. We have always had them. But responding with the same weapons simply coarsens the dialogue, demeans us a civil, thinking society and plays right into their hands (whether they are Dems or Repubs, right or left, etc).
Participantgandalf: I was going to respond to Casca and his lionizing the Nazis with a quote from Nietzsche (“Whoever fights monsters should take care not to become one”), but I think it is more apropos here.
Why is dialogue, discourse and decorum important? Because it helps separate you from the people you are battling. Another great expression is the one from Booker T. Washington: “One man cannot hold another man down in the ditch without remaining down in the ditch with him.”
Wingnuts are not a just a recent happening. We have always had them. But responding with the same weapons simply coarsens the dialogue, demeans us a civil, thinking society and plays right into their hands (whether they are Dems or Repubs, right or left, etc).
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