[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.

You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.

I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.

There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.

You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.

I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.

There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.

You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.

I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.

There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.

As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.

Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!

Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.

As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.

Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!

Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.

As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.

Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!

Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.

As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.

Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!

Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.

As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.

Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!

Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Just finished reading the “Gnostic Gospels” by Pagels a little bit ago. I also read “The God Delusion” by Dawkins recently. Very good read, but not as good as Hitchens’ latest on religion.

I’ll find “Origin” and read it.

So you’re watching Generation Kill and the Terminator series, huh? Dan, I think it’s time you drop this “liberal” pretense and get in touch with your inner fascist. It’s very liberating.

This thread isn’t nuanced? No!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Just finished reading the “Gnostic Gospels” by Pagels a little bit ago. I also read “The God Delusion” by Dawkins recently. Very good read, but not as good as Hitchens’ latest on religion.

I’ll find “Origin” and read it.

So you’re watching Generation Kill and the Terminator series, huh? Dan, I think it’s time you drop this “liberal” pretense and get in touch with your inner fascist. It’s very liberating.

This thread isn’t nuanced? No!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Just finished reading the “Gnostic Gospels” by Pagels a little bit ago. I also read “The God Delusion” by Dawkins recently. Very good read, but not as good as Hitchens’ latest on religion.

I’ll find “Origin” and read it.

So you’re watching Generation Kill and the Terminator series, huh? Dan, I think it’s time you drop this “liberal” pretense and get in touch with your inner fascist. It’s very liberating.

This thread isn’t nuanced? No!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Just finished reading the “Gnostic Gospels” by Pagels a little bit ago. I also read “The God Delusion” by Dawkins recently. Very good read, but not as good as Hitchens’ latest on religion.

I’ll find “Origin” and read it.

So you’re watching Generation Kill and the Terminator series, huh? Dan, I think it’s time you drop this “liberal” pretense and get in touch with your inner fascist. It’s very liberating.

This thread isn’t nuanced? No!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Just finished reading the “Gnostic Gospels” by Pagels a little bit ago. I also read “The God Delusion” by Dawkins recently. Very good read, but not as good as Hitchens’ latest on religion.

I’ll find “Origin” and read it.

So you’re watching Generation Kill and the Terminator series, huh? Dan, I think it’s time you drop this “liberal” pretense and get in touch with your inner fascist. It’s very liberating.

This thread isn’t nuanced? No!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: I like it. Not sure the Mother Church would appreciate your jesting, but I do.

I’d go for more of the Country Dick and the Beat Farmers kinda thing.

Has anyone noticed that it seems like Johnny Cash’s “When the Man Comes Around” is getting a lot of airplay on various TV shows? It’s like the song du jour or something.

Nazis aren’t right wing. They’re socialists. Deal with it.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: I like it. Not sure the Mother Church would appreciate your jesting, but I do.

I’d go for more of the Country Dick and the Beat Farmers kinda thing.

Has anyone noticed that it seems like Johnny Cash’s “When the Man Comes Around” is getting a lot of airplay on various TV shows? It’s like the song du jour or something.

Nazis aren’t right wing. They’re socialists. Deal with it.

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