[Allan from Fallbrook]

larry: Not thin skinned at all, simply tired of those too ignorant to recognize that having faith and spirituality doesn’t make you stupid, nor does it cause some automatic rejection of science. To the contrary.

The fact that some moron paid $28,000 for a grilled cheese sandwich that bears the Virgin Mary’s mug doesn’t make the rest of us idiots. It provides a nice launching point for you, however, to somehow conflate spirituality with stupidity and thus reinforce your own bias against people of faith.

Spirituality does NOT equal Religion. Two very different things. That point somehow seems lost on you, as I have tried to make it on no less than three separate occasions and you went right past it and started banging the “all religions are stupid” drum.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

larry: Not thin skinned at all, simply tired of those too ignorant to recognize that having faith and spirituality doesn’t make you stupid, nor does it cause some automatic rejection of science. To the contrary.

The fact that some moron paid $28,000 for a grilled cheese sandwich that bears the Virgin Mary’s mug doesn’t make the rest of us idiots. It provides a nice launching point for you, however, to somehow conflate spirituality with stupidity and thus reinforce your own bias against people of faith.

Spirituality does NOT equal Religion. Two very different things. That point somehow seems lost on you, as I have tried to make it on no less than three separate occasions and you went right past it and started banging the “all religions are stupid” drum.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

larry: Not thin skinned at all, simply tired of those too ignorant to recognize that having faith and spirituality doesn’t make you stupid, nor does it cause some automatic rejection of science. To the contrary.

The fact that some moron paid $28,000 for a grilled cheese sandwich that bears the Virgin Mary’s mug doesn’t make the rest of us idiots. It provides a nice launching point for you, however, to somehow conflate spirituality with stupidity and thus reinforce your own bias against people of faith.

Spirituality does NOT equal Religion. Two very different things. That point somehow seems lost on you, as I have tried to make it on no less than three separate occasions and you went right past it and started banging the “all religions are stupid” drum.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Mountain View, baby! Dad worked at Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral/L3) and I went to school at St. Joe’s in LAH and St. Francis HS in Mountain View.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Mountain View, baby! Dad worked at Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral/L3) and I went to school at St. Joe’s in LAH and St. Francis HS in Mountain View.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Mountain View, baby! Dad worked at Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral/L3) and I went to school at St. Joe’s in LAH and St. Francis HS in Mountain View.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Mountain View, baby! Dad worked at Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral/L3) and I went to school at St. Joe’s in LAH and St. Francis HS in Mountain View.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Dan: Mountain View, baby! Dad worked at Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral/L3) and I went to school at St. Joe’s in LAH and St. Francis HS in Mountain View.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

For those of us who grew up in NorCal, “The City” is San Francisco.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

For those of us who grew up in NorCal, “The City” is San Francisco.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

For those of us who grew up in NorCal, “The City” is San Francisco.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

For those of us who grew up in NorCal, “The City” is San Francisco.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

For those of us who grew up in NorCal, “The City” is San Francisco.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.

You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.

I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.

There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

zippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.

You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.

I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.

There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.

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