[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: Rhetoric notwithstanding, how do you reconcile the policies, both foreign and domestic, that have been in play for the last 50 years and include both Democratic and Republican administrations and Congresses?

You speak of Bush’s destruction of civil liberties, yet ignore Clinton’s policies regarding extraordinary rendition and involvement with the NSA Carnivore and Echelon programs, as well as overlooking Carter’s 1978 FISA program.

“Legitimately responsible for the destruction of the country”? Wages have been stagnant since the 1970s and both right and left have lied to their constituencies for years (actually decades) about the true state of this nation and have avoided a true dialogue with the people of this country as to what truly needs to be done in order to return us to competitiveness and the necessary sacrifices that need to be made to wean us off of foreign oil, cheap goods and an unsustainable standard of living.

This is not something that has taken place over the last eight years, but the last forty. It has certainly accelerated over the last eight, but both Dems and Repubs have blood on their hands and both are equally guilty here.

Scapegoating Bush and extolling Obama simply continues the propaganda campaign.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: Rhetoric notwithstanding, how do you reconcile the policies, both foreign and domestic, that have been in play for the last 50 years and include both Democratic and Republican administrations and Congresses?

You speak of Bush’s destruction of civil liberties, yet ignore Clinton’s policies regarding extraordinary rendition and involvement with the NSA Carnivore and Echelon programs, as well as overlooking Carter’s 1978 FISA program.

“Legitimately responsible for the destruction of the country”? Wages have been stagnant since the 1970s and both right and left have lied to their constituencies for years (actually decades) about the true state of this nation and have avoided a true dialogue with the people of this country as to what truly needs to be done in order to return us to competitiveness and the necessary sacrifices that need to be made to wean us off of foreign oil, cheap goods and an unsustainable standard of living.

This is not something that has taken place over the last eight years, but the last forty. It has certainly accelerated over the last eight, but both Dems and Repubs have blood on their hands and both are equally guilty here.

Scapegoating Bush and extolling Obama simply continues the propaganda campaign.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: Rhetoric notwithstanding, how do you reconcile the policies, both foreign and domestic, that have been in play for the last 50 years and include both Democratic and Republican administrations and Congresses?

You speak of Bush’s destruction of civil liberties, yet ignore Clinton’s policies regarding extraordinary rendition and involvement with the NSA Carnivore and Echelon programs, as well as overlooking Carter’s 1978 FISA program.

“Legitimately responsible for the destruction of the country”? Wages have been stagnant since the 1970s and both right and left have lied to their constituencies for years (actually decades) about the true state of this nation and have avoided a true dialogue with the people of this country as to what truly needs to be done in order to return us to competitiveness and the necessary sacrifices that need to be made to wean us off of foreign oil, cheap goods and an unsustainable standard of living.

This is not something that has taken place over the last eight years, but the last forty. It has certainly accelerated over the last eight, but both Dems and Repubs have blood on their hands and both are equally guilty here.

Scapegoating Bush and extolling Obama simply continues the propaganda campaign.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Socratt: Couldn’t agree more. The problem is this: If you question Obama and the established orthodoxy, you’re accused of being a retard or a dickhead.

We are facing a grave crisis and all we can come up with is the same tired crap on both sides of the aisle: The Republicans demonizing the Democrats as Marxists (or worse) and the Democrats accusing the Republicans of racism and cronyism. It’s not as though there isn’t something behind these accusations, but the balkanization and polarization of this country is destroying our ability as a nation to rise to the challenge.

United we stand, divided we fall. Those words have never seemed more timely or more correct.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Socratt: Couldn’t agree more. The problem is this: If you question Obama and the established orthodoxy, you’re accused of being a retard or a dickhead.

We are facing a grave crisis and all we can come up with is the same tired crap on both sides of the aisle: The Republicans demonizing the Democrats as Marxists (or worse) and the Democrats accusing the Republicans of racism and cronyism. It’s not as though there isn’t something behind these accusations, but the balkanization and polarization of this country is destroying our ability as a nation to rise to the challenge.

United we stand, divided we fall. Those words have never seemed more timely or more correct.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Socratt: Couldn’t agree more. The problem is this: If you question Obama and the established orthodoxy, you’re accused of being a retard or a dickhead.

We are facing a grave crisis and all we can come up with is the same tired crap on both sides of the aisle: The Republicans demonizing the Democrats as Marxists (or worse) and the Democrats accusing the Republicans of racism and cronyism. It’s not as though there isn’t something behind these accusations, but the balkanization and polarization of this country is destroying our ability as a nation to rise to the challenge.

United we stand, divided we fall. Those words have never seemed more timely or more correct.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Socratt: Couldn’t agree more. The problem is this: If you question Obama and the established orthodoxy, you’re accused of being a retard or a dickhead.

We are facing a grave crisis and all we can come up with is the same tired crap on both sides of the aisle: The Republicans demonizing the Democrats as Marxists (or worse) and the Democrats accusing the Republicans of racism and cronyism. It’s not as though there isn’t something behind these accusations, but the balkanization and polarization of this country is destroying our ability as a nation to rise to the challenge.

United we stand, divided we fall. Those words have never seemed more timely or more correct.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Socratt: Couldn’t agree more. The problem is this: If you question Obama and the established orthodoxy, you’re accused of being a retard or a dickhead.

We are facing a grave crisis and all we can come up with is the same tired crap on both sides of the aisle: The Republicans demonizing the Democrats as Marxists (or worse) and the Democrats accusing the Republicans of racism and cronyism. It’s not as though there isn’t something behind these accusations, but the balkanization and polarization of this country is destroying our ability as a nation to rise to the challenge.

United we stand, divided we fall. Those words have never seemed more timely or more correct.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say, especially the failure of the Republican Party to police it’s own worst elements and excesses. The GOP has become a laughable lampoon, and has abandoned it’s compass, both fiscal and moral.

However, and this is where I part company with you: The Democrats don’t offer a better solution. Obama does not have the record to support his claim of offering post-partisan politics, and both Dems and Repubs are turning this campaign into a veritable circus.

What’s that old expression? “In war, the first casualty is the truth”. We have sacrificed fair play, meaningful dialogue and the truth, all in the name of partisan politics. The Democrats can scarcely contain their glee at the plight of the Republicans, but are not offering much in the way of a true solution. Both parties are falling all over themselves to “save” the economy and no one wants to reveal the truth to the American people: That both parties are equally culpable in the collapse of the American middle class, our educational system and the ability of this nation to compete on an equal footing with the rest of the world.

Instead, we have gulled the rest of the world into believing that our ability to push worthless paper and “create” new ways to “make” money is somehow able to sustain this massive mountain of debt, both governmental and commercial.

George W. Bush was simply the last logical step in an impending collapse. We got exactly what we, the collective “we”, voted for and deserved.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say, especially the failure of the Republican Party to police it’s own worst elements and excesses. The GOP has become a laughable lampoon, and has abandoned it’s compass, both fiscal and moral.

However, and this is where I part company with you: The Democrats don’t offer a better solution. Obama does not have the record to support his claim of offering post-partisan politics, and both Dems and Repubs are turning this campaign into a veritable circus.

What’s that old expression? “In war, the first casualty is the truth”. We have sacrificed fair play, meaningful dialogue and the truth, all in the name of partisan politics. The Democrats can scarcely contain their glee at the plight of the Republicans, but are not offering much in the way of a true solution. Both parties are falling all over themselves to “save” the economy and no one wants to reveal the truth to the American people: That both parties are equally culpable in the collapse of the American middle class, our educational system and the ability of this nation to compete on an equal footing with the rest of the world.

Instead, we have gulled the rest of the world into believing that our ability to push worthless paper and “create” new ways to “make” money is somehow able to sustain this massive mountain of debt, both governmental and commercial.

George W. Bush was simply the last logical step in an impending collapse. We got exactly what we, the collective “we”, voted for and deserved.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say, especially the failure of the Republican Party to police it’s own worst elements and excesses. The GOP has become a laughable lampoon, and has abandoned it’s compass, both fiscal and moral.

However, and this is where I part company with you: The Democrats don’t offer a better solution. Obama does not have the record to support his claim of offering post-partisan politics, and both Dems and Repubs are turning this campaign into a veritable circus.

What’s that old expression? “In war, the first casualty is the truth”. We have sacrificed fair play, meaningful dialogue and the truth, all in the name of partisan politics. The Democrats can scarcely contain their glee at the plight of the Republicans, but are not offering much in the way of a true solution. Both parties are falling all over themselves to “save” the economy and no one wants to reveal the truth to the American people: That both parties are equally culpable in the collapse of the American middle class, our educational system and the ability of this nation to compete on an equal footing with the rest of the world.

Instead, we have gulled the rest of the world into believing that our ability to push worthless paper and “create” new ways to “make” money is somehow able to sustain this massive mountain of debt, both governmental and commercial.

George W. Bush was simply the last logical step in an impending collapse. We got exactly what we, the collective “we”, voted for and deserved.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say, especially the failure of the Republican Party to police it’s own worst elements and excesses. The GOP has become a laughable lampoon, and has abandoned it’s compass, both fiscal and moral.

However, and this is where I part company with you: The Democrats don’t offer a better solution. Obama does not have the record to support his claim of offering post-partisan politics, and both Dems and Repubs are turning this campaign into a veritable circus.

What’s that old expression? “In war, the first casualty is the truth”. We have sacrificed fair play, meaningful dialogue and the truth, all in the name of partisan politics. The Democrats can scarcely contain their glee at the plight of the Republicans, but are not offering much in the way of a true solution. Both parties are falling all over themselves to “save” the economy and no one wants to reveal the truth to the American people: That both parties are equally culpable in the collapse of the American middle class, our educational system and the ability of this nation to compete on an equal footing with the rest of the world.

Instead, we have gulled the rest of the world into believing that our ability to push worthless paper and “create” new ways to “make” money is somehow able to sustain this massive mountain of debt, both governmental and commercial.

George W. Bush was simply the last logical step in an impending collapse. We got exactly what we, the collective “we”, voted for and deserved.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say, especially the failure of the Republican Party to police it’s own worst elements and excesses. The GOP has become a laughable lampoon, and has abandoned it’s compass, both fiscal and moral.

However, and this is where I part company with you: The Democrats don’t offer a better solution. Obama does not have the record to support his claim of offering post-partisan politics, and both Dems and Repubs are turning this campaign into a veritable circus.

What’s that old expression? “In war, the first casualty is the truth”. We have sacrificed fair play, meaningful dialogue and the truth, all in the name of partisan politics. The Democrats can scarcely contain their glee at the plight of the Republicans, but are not offering much in the way of a true solution. Both parties are falling all over themselves to “save” the economy and no one wants to reveal the truth to the American people: That both parties are equally culpable in the collapse of the American middle class, our educational system and the ability of this nation to compete on an equal footing with the rest of the world.

Instead, we have gulled the rest of the world into believing that our ability to push worthless paper and “create” new ways to “make” money is somehow able to sustain this massive mountain of debt, both governmental and commercial.

George W. Bush was simply the last logical step in an impending collapse. We got exactly what we, the collective “we”, voted for and deserved.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: “Faux” Republicans? What is a faux Republican, in your opinion?

And wouldn’t Clinton have been a “faux” Democrat?

I enjoy the polemical nature of your posts, this response should be interesting.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

TheBreeze: “Faux” Republicans? What is a faux Republican, in your opinion?

And wouldn’t Clinton have been a “faux” Democrat?

I enjoy the polemical nature of your posts, this response should be interesting.

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