[Allan from Fallbrook]

Socratt/Meadandale: Don’t go down the rabbit hole with this guy!

He is a completely propagandized little Lefty. To prove the point, ask him any serious question and see if he answers. He won’t.

For instance, and given his love of all things Clinton, ask him about Slick Willie’s forays into foreign policy and how those turned out, specifically in places like Somalia, the Balkans, Haiti and especially Iraq.

Ah, Iraq. Clinton and his administration were BIG believers in WMD. They also gave us wonderful pieces of legislation, like the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998, right? What did that say again? Oh, yeah, it advocated the removal of Saddam Hussein, by any means, including invasion.

How about Clinton’s stance on torture, especially extraordinary rendition? What’s that? He started the policy of extraordinary rendition? No kidding!

And his signature on the NSA Echelon and Carnivore programs in 1994? You know the ones widely expanding governmental search capabilities into our private lives, including the widening of the 1978 FISA program?

He is either a troll or someone so blinded by the propaganda he doesn’t know any better and is therefore not up to the debate anyway. My advice is to let it go.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Meadandale: I wouldn’t expect much in terms of a substantive reply. Breeze shares Marion’s disdain for “trivial details” (the facts).

Everything is simply Dems versus Repubs (with the Dems always being right, and supported by their admirable record supporting same) and the facts are conveniently thrown out the window if they don’t fit the response.

I tried to engage Breeze regarding Jon Weil’s excellent Bloomberg article about Obama’s appointments reflecting “business as usual” and his response was that he didn’t read the article (the link to which was attached). I suggested he read the article and then respond. Radio silence followed.

Polemics aren’t going to solve the problem, but that’s all some folks have to hang their hats on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Meadandale: I wouldn’t expect much in terms of a substantive reply. Breeze shares Marion’s disdain for “trivial details” (the facts).

Everything is simply Dems versus Repubs (with the Dems always being right, and supported by their admirable record supporting same) and the facts are conveniently thrown out the window if they don’t fit the response.

I tried to engage Breeze regarding Jon Weil’s excellent Bloomberg article about Obama’s appointments reflecting “business as usual” and his response was that he didn’t read the article (the link to which was attached). I suggested he read the article and then respond. Radio silence followed.

Polemics aren’t going to solve the problem, but that’s all some folks have to hang their hats on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Meadandale: I wouldn’t expect much in terms of a substantive reply. Breeze shares Marion’s disdain for “trivial details” (the facts).

Everything is simply Dems versus Repubs (with the Dems always being right, and supported by their admirable record supporting same) and the facts are conveniently thrown out the window if they don’t fit the response.

I tried to engage Breeze regarding Jon Weil’s excellent Bloomberg article about Obama’s appointments reflecting “business as usual” and his response was that he didn’t read the article (the link to which was attached). I suggested he read the article and then respond. Radio silence followed.

Polemics aren’t going to solve the problem, but that’s all some folks have to hang their hats on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Meadandale: I wouldn’t expect much in terms of a substantive reply. Breeze shares Marion’s disdain for “trivial details” (the facts).

Everything is simply Dems versus Repubs (with the Dems always being right, and supported by their admirable record supporting same) and the facts are conveniently thrown out the window if they don’t fit the response.

I tried to engage Breeze regarding Jon Weil’s excellent Bloomberg article about Obama’s appointments reflecting “business as usual” and his response was that he didn’t read the article (the link to which was attached). I suggested he read the article and then respond. Radio silence followed.

Polemics aren’t going to solve the problem, but that’s all some folks have to hang their hats on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Meadandale: I wouldn’t expect much in terms of a substantive reply. Breeze shares Marion’s disdain for “trivial details” (the facts).

Everything is simply Dems versus Repubs (with the Dems always being right, and supported by their admirable record supporting same) and the facts are conveniently thrown out the window if they don’t fit the response.

I tried to engage Breeze regarding Jon Weil’s excellent Bloomberg article about Obama’s appointments reflecting “business as usual” and his response was that he didn’t read the article (the link to which was attached). I suggested he read the article and then respond. Radio silence followed.

Polemics aren’t going to solve the problem, but that’s all some folks have to hang their hats on.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Again, polemics over substance. The problems we’re confronting now are structural in nature and go back 30+ years and span both Dem and Repub administrations.

To hold that the Republicans are solely to blame for all of this or that Dubya fiendishly engineered this problem in his waning days is nothing short of absurd. Where is Greenspan and his recklessly loose monetary policy in all this? Where are the politicians (from both sides of the aisle) that aided and abetted the decades of fraudulent policies (or lack of policies)?

This has been one massive con game, run for decades, to hide the fact that Americans don’t make anything anymore, our wages are stagnant and our way of life has been paid for by ever increasing mountains of debt (personally, commercially and nationally) and now the bill has come due.

You think Obama is gonna fix this? Jesus the Lord couldn’t fix this with von Mises and Rothbard in tow! Wake up and smell the collapse, amigo.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Again, polemics over substance. The problems we’re confronting now are structural in nature and go back 30+ years and span both Dem and Repub administrations.

To hold that the Republicans are solely to blame for all of this or that Dubya fiendishly engineered this problem in his waning days is nothing short of absurd. Where is Greenspan and his recklessly loose monetary policy in all this? Where are the politicians (from both sides of the aisle) that aided and abetted the decades of fraudulent policies (or lack of policies)?

This has been one massive con game, run for decades, to hide the fact that Americans don’t make anything anymore, our wages are stagnant and our way of life has been paid for by ever increasing mountains of debt (personally, commercially and nationally) and now the bill has come due.

You think Obama is gonna fix this? Jesus the Lord couldn’t fix this with von Mises and Rothbard in tow! Wake up and smell the collapse, amigo.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Again, polemics over substance. The problems we’re confronting now are structural in nature and go back 30+ years and span both Dem and Repub administrations.

To hold that the Republicans are solely to blame for all of this or that Dubya fiendishly engineered this problem in his waning days is nothing short of absurd. Where is Greenspan and his recklessly loose monetary policy in all this? Where are the politicians (from both sides of the aisle) that aided and abetted the decades of fraudulent policies (or lack of policies)?

This has been one massive con game, run for decades, to hide the fact that Americans don’t make anything anymore, our wages are stagnant and our way of life has been paid for by ever increasing mountains of debt (personally, commercially and nationally) and now the bill has come due.

You think Obama is gonna fix this? Jesus the Lord couldn’t fix this with von Mises and Rothbard in tow! Wake up and smell the collapse, amigo.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Again, polemics over substance. The problems we’re confronting now are structural in nature and go back 30+ years and span both Dem and Repub administrations.

To hold that the Republicans are solely to blame for all of this or that Dubya fiendishly engineered this problem in his waning days is nothing short of absurd. Where is Greenspan and his recklessly loose monetary policy in all this? Where are the politicians (from both sides of the aisle) that aided and abetted the decades of fraudulent policies (or lack of policies)?

This has been one massive con game, run for decades, to hide the fact that Americans don’t make anything anymore, our wages are stagnant and our way of life has been paid for by ever increasing mountains of debt (personally, commercially and nationally) and now the bill has come due.

You think Obama is gonna fix this? Jesus the Lord couldn’t fix this with von Mises and Rothbard in tow! Wake up and smell the collapse, amigo.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Again, polemics over substance. The problems we’re confronting now are structural in nature and go back 30+ years and span both Dem and Repub administrations.

To hold that the Republicans are solely to blame for all of this or that Dubya fiendishly engineered this problem in his waning days is nothing short of absurd. Where is Greenspan and his recklessly loose monetary policy in all this? Where are the politicians (from both sides of the aisle) that aided and abetted the decades of fraudulent policies (or lack of policies)?

This has been one massive con game, run for decades, to hide the fact that Americans don’t make anything anymore, our wages are stagnant and our way of life has been paid for by ever increasing mountains of debt (personally, commercially and nationally) and now the bill has come due.

You think Obama is gonna fix this? Jesus the Lord couldn’t fix this with von Mises and Rothbard in tow! Wake up and smell the collapse, amigo.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

asianautica: It doesn’t end. This is a huge shakedown, and a thinly veiled attempt by Paulson to keep the gravy train rolling for Wall Street with no questions asked. He’s used fear mongering, misinformation and a gullible Congress and President to further this plan.

The Big 3 are looking for the same handout and why not? Rather than let the market determine the outcome, or use the BK courts (in the case of Ford and GM), instead everyone is lining up with their hand out. Welcome to the new America. Welfare for everyone!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

asianautica: It doesn’t end. This is a huge shakedown, and a thinly veiled attempt by Paulson to keep the gravy train rolling for Wall Street with no questions asked. He’s used fear mongering, misinformation and a gullible Congress and President to further this plan.

The Big 3 are looking for the same handout and why not? Rather than let the market determine the outcome, or use the BK courts (in the case of Ford and GM), instead everyone is lining up with their hand out. Welcome to the new America. Welfare for everyone!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

asianautica: It doesn’t end. This is a huge shakedown, and a thinly veiled attempt by Paulson to keep the gravy train rolling for Wall Street with no questions asked. He’s used fear mongering, misinformation and a gullible Congress and President to further this plan.

The Big 3 are looking for the same handout and why not? Rather than let the market determine the outcome, or use the BK courts (in the case of Ford and GM), instead everyone is lining up with their hand out. Welcome to the new America. Welfare for everyone!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

asianautica: It doesn’t end. This is a huge shakedown, and a thinly veiled attempt by Paulson to keep the gravy train rolling for Wall Street with no questions asked. He’s used fear mongering, misinformation and a gullible Congress and President to further this plan.

The Big 3 are looking for the same handout and why not? Rather than let the market determine the outcome, or use the BK courts (in the case of Ford and GM), instead everyone is lining up with their hand out. Welcome to the new America. Welfare for everyone!

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