[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: I’m not. A careful reading of my responses would indicate that I’m taking issue with your perfervid ranting on about Obama’s greatness.

I’m also going to great lengths to point out, and in a non-partisan fashion, that he is not all that he is cracked up to be.

His relationships with Rezko, and Reverend Wright, and especially Bill Ayers, do matter. Ayers is not a “community activist”, he’s a homegrown terrorist. I don’t use that term lightly, but he is. He’s famously quoted as saying, following 9/11, that he wished he’d blown up more buildings.

Rezko is as dirty as they come, and if you spend any time researching the land deal that the Obama’s did, you’ll see that Michelle Obama and her law firm are just as involved with this mess.

I could care less about his political stripe, but it does MATTER TO YOU. You rant against “right-wing nutjobs”, when many of us are anything but. I’m an arch-conservative, but it doesn’t clearly connote slavish adherence to the Republican Party, as evidenced by the fact that I haven’t voted for them since 1996. I found Dubya to be a well meaning frat boy, who got thrown into a much bigger job than he was prepared for and blew it (not unexpectedly).

His, however, is a cautionary tale for Obama as well. If you think for a second that the people and news media won’t turn on him and savage him without surcease, well, look at how the people and media lionized Bush in 2000. See any similarities? They’re painfully obvious.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

No, Breeze, I was making the point that even the decision to close Gitmo (which I agree with) is fraught with peril.

You’re out of your tree if you think Obama is going to break al-Qaeda. Killing or capturing Osama bin Laden (and I’m fairly certain he’s dead already) won’t affect this group one iota. Do you know what al-Qaeda means? It means the “database” (loosely translated). These groups are run nearly like franchises and completely compartmentalized. They’re well organized and well financed and, as socratt points, completely dedicated to the cause.

Obama could commit another 50,000 US troops to Afghanistan and still not solve the problem. Look at what happened to the Soviets.

If you think that Obama is possessed of some magical silver bullets that are going to solve this problem, well, History has a really big surprise for you. This is a GENERATIONAL war against a foe far more determined than we give them credit for.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

No, Breeze, I was making the point that even the decision to close Gitmo (which I agree with) is fraught with peril.

You’re out of your tree if you think Obama is going to break al-Qaeda. Killing or capturing Osama bin Laden (and I’m fairly certain he’s dead already) won’t affect this group one iota. Do you know what al-Qaeda means? It means the “database” (loosely translated). These groups are run nearly like franchises and completely compartmentalized. They’re well organized and well financed and, as socratt points, completely dedicated to the cause.

Obama could commit another 50,000 US troops to Afghanistan and still not solve the problem. Look at what happened to the Soviets.

If you think that Obama is possessed of some magical silver bullets that are going to solve this problem, well, History has a really big surprise for you. This is a GENERATIONAL war against a foe far more determined than we give them credit for.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

No, Breeze, I was making the point that even the decision to close Gitmo (which I agree with) is fraught with peril.

You’re out of your tree if you think Obama is going to break al-Qaeda. Killing or capturing Osama bin Laden (and I’m fairly certain he’s dead already) won’t affect this group one iota. Do you know what al-Qaeda means? It means the “database” (loosely translated). These groups are run nearly like franchises and completely compartmentalized. They’re well organized and well financed and, as socratt points, completely dedicated to the cause.

Obama could commit another 50,000 US troops to Afghanistan and still not solve the problem. Look at what happened to the Soviets.

If you think that Obama is possessed of some magical silver bullets that are going to solve this problem, well, History has a really big surprise for you. This is a GENERATIONAL war against a foe far more determined than we give them credit for.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

No, Breeze, I was making the point that even the decision to close Gitmo (which I agree with) is fraught with peril.

You’re out of your tree if you think Obama is going to break al-Qaeda. Killing or capturing Osama bin Laden (and I’m fairly certain he’s dead already) won’t affect this group one iota. Do you know what al-Qaeda means? It means the “database” (loosely translated). These groups are run nearly like franchises and completely compartmentalized. They’re well organized and well financed and, as socratt points, completely dedicated to the cause.

Obama could commit another 50,000 US troops to Afghanistan and still not solve the problem. Look at what happened to the Soviets.

If you think that Obama is possessed of some magical silver bullets that are going to solve this problem, well, History has a really big surprise for you. This is a GENERATIONAL war against a foe far more determined than we give them credit for.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

No, Breeze, I was making the point that even the decision to close Gitmo (which I agree with) is fraught with peril.

You’re out of your tree if you think Obama is going to break al-Qaeda. Killing or capturing Osama bin Laden (and I’m fairly certain he’s dead already) won’t affect this group one iota. Do you know what al-Qaeda means? It means the “database” (loosely translated). These groups are run nearly like franchises and completely compartmentalized. They’re well organized and well financed and, as socratt points, completely dedicated to the cause.

Obama could commit another 50,000 US troops to Afghanistan and still not solve the problem. Look at what happened to the Soviets.

If you think that Obama is possessed of some magical silver bullets that are going to solve this problem, well, History has a really big surprise for you. This is a GENERATIONAL war against a foe far more determined than we give them credit for.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Your highlight only covers ONE ASPECT of the Paulson plan, the majority of which Obama IS USING. Read the NYT article that I linked in, genius.

And, for the record, I am not an evangelical Christian and I don’t believe the earth is 5,000 years old. I’ll cheerfully put my Jesuit Catholic and collegiate education up against yours, so feel free to drop the right-wing nutjob moniker as well. You’re far more indoctrinated than I’ll ever be, especially given the fact that I haven’t voted Republican since 1996!

You feel like having a bare knuckles ideological debate, I’m all for it.

Following is DIRECT QUOTE FROM NYT ARTICLE you buffoon: “But other proposals the Obama administration is preparing to make, like tighter federal regulation of mortgage brokers, had been recommended in Mr. Paulson’s blueprint.”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Your highlight only covers ONE ASPECT of the Paulson plan, the majority of which Obama IS USING. Read the NYT article that I linked in, genius.

And, for the record, I am not an evangelical Christian and I don’t believe the earth is 5,000 years old. I’ll cheerfully put my Jesuit Catholic and collegiate education up against yours, so feel free to drop the right-wing nutjob moniker as well. You’re far more indoctrinated than I’ll ever be, especially given the fact that I haven’t voted Republican since 1996!

You feel like having a bare knuckles ideological debate, I’m all for it.

Following is DIRECT QUOTE FROM NYT ARTICLE you buffoon: “But other proposals the Obama administration is preparing to make, like tighter federal regulation of mortgage brokers, had been recommended in Mr. Paulson’s blueprint.”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Your highlight only covers ONE ASPECT of the Paulson plan, the majority of which Obama IS USING. Read the NYT article that I linked in, genius.

And, for the record, I am not an evangelical Christian and I don’t believe the earth is 5,000 years old. I’ll cheerfully put my Jesuit Catholic and collegiate education up against yours, so feel free to drop the right-wing nutjob moniker as well. You’re far more indoctrinated than I’ll ever be, especially given the fact that I haven’t voted Republican since 1996!

You feel like having a bare knuckles ideological debate, I’m all for it.

Following is DIRECT QUOTE FROM NYT ARTICLE you buffoon: “But other proposals the Obama administration is preparing to make, like tighter federal regulation of mortgage brokers, had been recommended in Mr. Paulson’s blueprint.”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Your highlight only covers ONE ASPECT of the Paulson plan, the majority of which Obama IS USING. Read the NYT article that I linked in, genius.

And, for the record, I am not an evangelical Christian and I don’t believe the earth is 5,000 years old. I’ll cheerfully put my Jesuit Catholic and collegiate education up against yours, so feel free to drop the right-wing nutjob moniker as well. You’re far more indoctrinated than I’ll ever be, especially given the fact that I haven’t voted Republican since 1996!

You feel like having a bare knuckles ideological debate, I’m all for it.

Following is DIRECT QUOTE FROM NYT ARTICLE you buffoon: “But other proposals the Obama administration is preparing to make, like tighter federal regulation of mortgage brokers, had been recommended in Mr. Paulson’s blueprint.”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Your highlight only covers ONE ASPECT of the Paulson plan, the majority of which Obama IS USING. Read the NYT article that I linked in, genius.

And, for the record, I am not an evangelical Christian and I don’t believe the earth is 5,000 years old. I’ll cheerfully put my Jesuit Catholic and collegiate education up against yours, so feel free to drop the right-wing nutjob moniker as well. You’re far more indoctrinated than I’ll ever be, especially given the fact that I haven’t voted Republican since 1996!

You feel like having a bare knuckles ideological debate, I’m all for it.

Following is DIRECT QUOTE FROM NYT ARTICLE you buffoon: “But other proposals the Obama administration is preparing to make, like tighter federal regulation of mortgage brokers, had been recommended in Mr. Paulson’s blueprint.”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Two things. First, I haven’t voted Republican since 1996 (meaning, I didn’t vote for Dubya either time and I didn’t vote for McCain), and you’re conveniently ignoring that NYT article about the Yemeni released from Gitmo who is now an al-Qaeda chief.

As always, you play fast and loose with the facts, or ignore the ones that are inconvenient to you.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Two things. First, I haven’t voted Republican since 1996 (meaning, I didn’t vote for Dubya either time and I didn’t vote for McCain), and you’re conveniently ignoring that NYT article about the Yemeni released from Gitmo who is now an al-Qaeda chief.

As always, you play fast and loose with the facts, or ignore the ones that are inconvenient to you.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Two things. First, I haven’t voted Republican since 1996 (meaning, I didn’t vote for Dubya either time and I didn’t vote for McCain), and you’re conveniently ignoring that NYT article about the Yemeni released from Gitmo who is now an al-Qaeda chief.

As always, you play fast and loose with the facts, or ignore the ones that are inconvenient to you.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Two things. First, I haven’t voted Republican since 1996 (meaning, I didn’t vote for Dubya either time and I didn’t vote for McCain), and you’re conveniently ignoring that NYT article about the Yemeni released from Gitmo who is now an al-Qaeda chief.

As always, you play fast and loose with the facts, or ignore the ones that are inconvenient to you.

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