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Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=SK in CV][quote=CA renter]
FWIW, the good beers also don’t go through you like the cheap beers do. [/quote]
Umm….yes, they do. And because many craft beers have higher alcohol content than cheap beer, they go through you even faster. Alcohol is a diuretic. And that doesn’t matter whether the alcohol is in Pabst or in Arrogant Bastard. But if you drink less, you’ll pee less.[quote]
Not the experience of my DH or myself…or the others with whom we’ve discussed this. But we can take a Pigg poll! ;)[/quote]
There’s an old joke that holds you don’t buy beer, you rent it.
Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
[quote=FlyerInHi]Pyrrhic victories.[/quote]
Victory? What victory?[/quote]
And thus the definition of Pyrrhic.[/quote]Actually, Pyrrhic means you won, but at a grievous cost. There is no victory here.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=scaredyclassic]Is it fair to say there was no fucking point whatsoever to the iraqi war, that all the deaths and injuries served no purpose, and that if anything it just made the world a much worse place?[/quote]
yes, it’s more than fair.
Iraq was a blunder of epic proportions.
As was Afghanistan. We should have taken a different tack to revenge for 9/11. There were alternatives to invading Afghanistan. But our leaders were intent on swift retribution to 9/11.
Pyrrhic victories.[/quote]
Victory? What victory?
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]I have all my hair. I think it’s only the high testosterone guys who go bald.[/quote]
From your lips to G-d’s ear…
Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=njtosd][quote=FlyerInHi]
Ok, I do take propecia for my thinning hair. It works! It would suck to go bald. I believe vanity is a sin that could send me straight to hell… but oh, well…[/quote]
From what I can see, the only side effect of Propecia that they list is a decrease in sex drive. Maybe that’s a road sign on the road to hell?
http://www.rxlist.com/propecia-side-effects-drug-center.htm%5B/quote%5DDid you read a few paragraphs down on that page. There are a lot more warnings and a notice that this may not be the complete list of side effects.
Even though warnings are not actually side effects( maybe it takes time) , injesting anything that comes with those kinds or warnings isn’t going to happen for the sake of my hair, it’s pretty darn serious in my mind.[/quote]
Russ: Agree 100% on that one (as a balding guy). Plus, chicks dig the shaved dome. Added bonus: As a football coach on the defensive side the ball, it makes you look slighted demented, which is nice.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar]Lately when I want to be moderately religious I listen to this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biz5kBIAticI don’t really go in for country and western but this song is the bomb as far as believing in anything goes.
None of the old men are fat so that proves they are on the right track.[/quote]
Problem is believing in people sets you up for a letdown. Invisible deities are always there for you.[/quote]
Scaredy: Not trying to be difficult, but you realize that wearing the yarmulke and observing the “G-d/YHWH” thing does make you something of an observing Jew.
Parenthetically (and asked in all seriousness), did your upbringing inform your decision to become a lawyer? No, I’m not trying to bootstrap my way into an “all Jews make good lawyers” joke, but Judaism has a strong element of God as a lawmaker (as The Lawmaker, really) and many of the practices and rites focus on God’s “contract” with the Jews, as well as stressing the strength of Judaic Law. Just curious, especially in light of your background as an attorney.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=scaredyclassic]Religion is best in moderate dosages and should not be ingested full strength.[/quote]
Such as wearing a yarmulke if you travel distances greater than five feet and honoring the proscription for using G-d’s name in full?[/quote]
Exactly. Beware of G-d.
The overlap between what we believe and what we say we believe is smaller than the eye of a needle.[/quote]
Eye of a needle, huh? I recall reading that in some book…
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]Religion is best in moderate dosages and should not be ingested full strength.[/quote]
Such as wearing a yarmulke if you travel distances greater than five feet and honoring the proscription for using G-d’s name in full?
Participant[quote=zk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=zk][quote=flyer]I find it amusing that “nonbelievers” think their opinion is more valid than “believers.”
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Not more valid necessarily, but definitely more rational.[/quote]
zk: So, you’re arguing AGAINST dogmatism, by USING dogmatism?[/quote]
No. I’m not saying that my position is incontrovertibly true (dogmatism).
I’m saying that my position is rational. Completely different from incontrovertibly true.
Rational means based on or in accordance with reason or logic. I have used reason and logic to arrive at my conclusion. Faith, by definition, does not use these things to reach a conclusion.[/quote]
zk: In a previous post, you asserted that ALL religions were a “fantasy”. Not SOME or CERTAIN, but ALL. That’s a dogmatic assertion. Interestingly, as someone who believes in empiricism and observable phenomena, that’s a position you cannot PROVE.
Here’s the point I was trying to make: Faith and Reason are not incompatible. You referenced astronomy (spherical Earth) and microbiology (bacteria) in a previous post. Some of the greatest research in those areas has been performed by people of faith. Did their faith or beliefs get in the way of their research? It doesn’t appear so. If you were to remove the body of work from just the Catholic scientists, researchers, doctors, etc, you would take away a staggering amount from science.
Saint Thomas Aquinas was one of the first contributors and proponents of the scientific method used extensively to this day. One can hold Faith and Reason with equal ease, was my point.
Participant[quote=zk][quote=flyer]I find it amusing that “nonbelievers” think their opinion is more valid than “believers.”
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Not more valid necessarily, but definitely more rational.[/quote]
zk: So, you’re arguing AGAINST dogmatism, by USING dogmatism?
Participant[quote=Blogstar]Pantheism and pantheists are interesting, Allan. Glad you brought that up.[/quote]
Russ: No worries, and I agree. Kaku is among a group of very interesting thinkers in Quantum Mechanics that can understand that this is more than just science, and also more than just religion, either.
Don’t know if you’ve ever read Campbell on mythology, but there are interesting parallels and connections. Throw in some psychedelics and it’s a party!
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]I am as certain that our current conception of heaven is not real as you are that ancient Egyptian burial practices did not affect the afterlife.
or pick up the Book of Mormon. Not to disrespect Mormons. I know and love a lot of Mormons actually. But when I pick up the book and read it, read about the history of the Church, I know 100% in my heart this is not an explanation of reality that is true. pick one up sometime; is it worth keeping an open mind about it in the sense as to whetehr it is true? My answer is no.
is it worth keeping an open mind about why people come to beleive odd things, social issues, etc? yes.
but not about the nature of reality in the sense of whetehr the book of mormon is true, whether heaven is real, or whetehr G-d nailed another G-d type being toa cross to die for our sins.[/quote]
This reminds me of a great Catholic joke about Mormonism, along the lines of Good News/Bad News: Good news is that Jesus just called. Bad news is that he was calling from Salt Lake City.
Participant[quote=zk] The universe is a cold, dark place that cares not for anybody or anything.
[/quote]zk: Or, maybe it isn’t.
Michio Kaku on the mysticism inherent to Quantum Mechanics: http://www.starstuffs.com/physcon/science.html
Lest you accuse him of latching on to any single God/god, don’t: He’s pantheistic.
To listen to theoretical physicists working on String Theory, Superstring and M-theory discuss not only the wonders of the universe, but expanded consciousness and mysticism is amazing. To simply write off the universe as a cold dark hole is to diminish your own intellect and sense of wonder.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar][quote=zk][quote=Blogstar]
He wants to start his own religion and use it to make people do what he wants them to do and get rich.[/quote]He’s not the first one.[/quote]
That’s what I told him.[/quote]tell him he needs an angle.[/quote]
Nah. All he needs is a pulpit and a camera.
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