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air_ogi
ParticipantZeitgeist,
you cast yourself as a defender of the elderly and their health rights, but I don’t see what your solution is.
I if read properly what you are saying, you are ready to pay taxes, no matter how high, so that our nation’s elderly can get the best health care, no matter how cost effective?
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ParticipantZeitgeist,
you cast yourself as a defender of the elderly and their health rights, but I don’t see what your solution is.
I if read properly what you are saying, you are ready to pay taxes, no matter how high, so that our nation’s elderly can get the best health care, no matter how cost effective?
>3.76
ParticipantZeitgeist,
you cast yourself as a defender of the elderly and their health rights, but I don’t see what your solution is.
I if read properly what you are saying, you are ready to pay taxes, no matter how high, so that our nation’s elderly can get the best health care, no matter how cost effective?
>3.76
ParticipantZeitgeist,
you cast yourself as a defender of the elderly and their health rights, but I don’t see what your solution is.
I if read properly what you are saying, you are ready to pay taxes, no matter how high, so that our nation’s elderly can get the best health care, no matter how cost effective?
>3.76
Participant[quote=AN]
Limited hours is not the same as taking the weekend off. How many urgent care do you know that have the weekend off?
[/quote]I’ve seen many urgent care centers in Canada that work over weekends. I am sure I could find one in US that doesn’t work over the weekend.
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How many American think our system is better than Canadians? How many Republicans think their ideal is better than Democrats’? How many Democrats think their ideal is better than Republicans’? How many American comes to Canada to get treated vs how many Canadian comes to America to get treated?[/quote]Looks like at most 47% Americans prefer our system, even after all the scare tactics from big pharma and AMA.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-favor-universal-health-care—-until-taxes-are-mentioned.phpParticipant[quote=AN]
Limited hours is not the same as taking the weekend off. How many urgent care do you know that have the weekend off?
[/quote]I’ve seen many urgent care centers in Canada that work over weekends. I am sure I could find one in US that doesn’t work over the weekend.
[quote=AN]
How many American think our system is better than Canadians? How many Republicans think their ideal is better than Democrats’? How many Democrats think their ideal is better than Republicans’? How many American comes to Canada to get treated vs how many Canadian comes to America to get treated?[/quote]Looks like at most 47% Americans prefer our system, even after all the scare tactics from big pharma and AMA.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-favor-universal-health-care—-until-taxes-are-mentioned.phpParticipant[quote=AN]
Limited hours is not the same as taking the weekend off. How many urgent care do you know that have the weekend off?
[/quote]I’ve seen many urgent care centers in Canada that work over weekends. I am sure I could find one in US that doesn’t work over the weekend.
[quote=AN]
How many American think our system is better than Canadians? How many Republicans think their ideal is better than Democrats’? How many Democrats think their ideal is better than Republicans’? How many American comes to Canada to get treated vs how many Canadian comes to America to get treated?[/quote]Looks like at most 47% Americans prefer our system, even after all the scare tactics from big pharma and AMA.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-favor-universal-health-care—-until-taxes-are-mentioned.phpParticipant[quote=AN]
Limited hours is not the same as taking the weekend off. How many urgent care do you know that have the weekend off?
[/quote]I’ve seen many urgent care centers in Canada that work over weekends. I am sure I could find one in US that doesn’t work over the weekend.
[quote=AN]
How many American think our system is better than Canadians? How many Republicans think their ideal is better than Democrats’? How many Democrats think their ideal is better than Republicans’? How many American comes to Canada to get treated vs how many Canadian comes to America to get treated?[/quote]Looks like at most 47% Americans prefer our system, even after all the scare tactics from big pharma and AMA.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-favor-universal-health-care—-until-taxes-are-mentioned.phpParticipant[quote=AN]
Limited hours is not the same as taking the weekend off. How many urgent care do you know that have the weekend off?
[/quote]I’ve seen many urgent care centers in Canada that work over weekends. I am sure I could find one in US that doesn’t work over the weekend.
[quote=AN]
How many American think our system is better than Canadians? How many Republicans think their ideal is better than Democrats’? How many Democrats think their ideal is better than Republicans’? How many American comes to Canada to get treated vs how many Canadian comes to America to get treated?[/quote]Looks like at most 47% Americans prefer our system, even after all the scare tactics from big pharma and AMA.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-favor-universal-health-care—-until-taxes-are-mentioned.phpParticipant[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.
4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.
If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
Most of urgent care facilities have limited hours, just like one in Canada.
If hospital treats me and I don’t pay, other patients will pick up my tab. That is pretty much completely ineffective socialized medicine.
Other than your anecdote, there is very little evidence that US hospitals treat patients better than equivalent ones in Canada.
And finally, 82 per cent of Canadians believe their system is superior to US.
Participant[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.
4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.
If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
Most of urgent care facilities have limited hours, just like one in Canada.
If hospital treats me and I don’t pay, other patients will pick up my tab. That is pretty much completely ineffective socialized medicine.
Other than your anecdote, there is very little evidence that US hospitals treat patients better than equivalent ones in Canada.
And finally, 82 per cent of Canadians believe their system is superior to US.
Participant[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.
4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.
If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
Most of urgent care facilities have limited hours, just like one in Canada.
If hospital treats me and I don’t pay, other patients will pick up my tab. That is pretty much completely ineffective socialized medicine.
Other than your anecdote, there is very little evidence that US hospitals treat patients better than equivalent ones in Canada.
And finally, 82 per cent of Canadians believe their system is superior to US.
Participant[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.
4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.
If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
Most of urgent care facilities have limited hours, just like one in Canada.
If hospital treats me and I don’t pay, other patients will pick up my tab. That is pretty much completely ineffective socialized medicine.
Other than your anecdote, there is very little evidence that US hospitals treat patients better than equivalent ones in Canada.
And finally, 82 per cent of Canadians believe their system is superior to US.
Participant[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.
4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.
If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
Most of urgent care facilities have limited hours, just like one in Canada.
If hospital treats me and I don’t pay, other patients will pick up my tab. That is pretty much completely ineffective socialized medicine.
Other than your anecdote, there is very little evidence that US hospitals treat patients better than equivalent ones in Canada.
And finally, 82 per cent of Canadians believe their system is superior to US.
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