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ParticipantYou never know quite what is going on in situations like this, but it could be interpreted that Europe is being held to ransom. “You want the Ukraine, you can have her but she comes with a few debts.” I spent a little time in the Ukraine, but it was about 30 years ago. Then it was part of the Soviet Union. It struck me then as having a distinctive cultural identity, and independence seems a natural evolutions for many post Soviet satellites. However, putting aside communism’s stated goals for a moment, it should be remembered that the “buffer zone” was a strategic response to what Russia saw as European expansionism. There may be a case to argue that those fears still linger.
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ParticipantYou never know quite what is going on in situations like this, but it could be interpreted that Europe is being held to ransom. “You want the Ukraine, you can have her but she comes with a few debts.” I spent a little time in the Ukraine, but it was about 30 years ago. Then it was part of the Soviet Union. It struck me then as having a distinctive cultural identity, and independence seems a natural evolutions for many post Soviet satellites. However, putting aside communism’s stated goals for a moment, it should be remembered that the “buffer zone” was a strategic response to what Russia saw as European expansionism. There may be a case to argue that those fears still linger.
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ParticipantYou never know quite what is going on in situations like this, but it could be interpreted that Europe is being held to ransom. “You want the Ukraine, you can have her but she comes with a few debts.” I spent a little time in the Ukraine, but it was about 30 years ago. Then it was part of the Soviet Union. It struck me then as having a distinctive cultural identity, and independence seems a natural evolutions for many post Soviet satellites. However, putting aside communism’s stated goals for a moment, it should be remembered that the “buffer zone” was a strategic response to what Russia saw as European expansionism. There may be a case to argue that those fears still linger.
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ParticipantYou never know quite what is going on in situations like this, but it could be interpreted that Europe is being held to ransom. “You want the Ukraine, you can have her but she comes with a few debts.” I spent a little time in the Ukraine, but it was about 30 years ago. Then it was part of the Soviet Union. It struck me then as having a distinctive cultural identity, and independence seems a natural evolutions for many post Soviet satellites. However, putting aside communism’s stated goals for a moment, it should be remembered that the “buffer zone” was a strategic response to what Russia saw as European expansionism. There may be a case to argue that those fears still linger.
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It’s sad to see that even though everyone knows that we have a pending energy crisis, aesthetic is still valued over practicality.[/quote]I agree, but houses do have ‘design’ and it is part of the value when you buy one. If builders can incorporate garages into homes, why can’t they incorporate solar panels? Shouldn’t be that difficult. Trouble is it’s something that should have happened while all the building was going on over the last few years, and didn’t. The need for them together with the resistance to them, should force the industry to sit up and take note. Someone who has paid a small fortune for their little stucco home, does not want a strange contraption spoiling the aesthetic lines of their pride and joy. Enough cultural and architectural heritage has already been destroyed, with unappealing prefabs and high rise chaos. IMO it would be a pity to add to the clutter.
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Participant[quote=PKMAN]
It’s sad to see that even though everyone knows that we have a pending energy crisis, aesthetic is still valued over practicality.[/quote]I agree, but houses do have ‘design’ and it is part of the value when you buy one. If builders can incorporate garages into homes, why can’t they incorporate solar panels? Shouldn’t be that difficult. Trouble is it’s something that should have happened while all the building was going on over the last few years, and didn’t. The need for them together with the resistance to them, should force the industry to sit up and take note. Someone who has paid a small fortune for their little stucco home, does not want a strange contraption spoiling the aesthetic lines of their pride and joy. Enough cultural and architectural heritage has already been destroyed, with unappealing prefabs and high rise chaos. IMO it would be a pity to add to the clutter.
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Participant[quote=PKMAN]
It’s sad to see that even though everyone knows that we have a pending energy crisis, aesthetic is still valued over practicality.[/quote]I agree, but houses do have ‘design’ and it is part of the value when you buy one. If builders can incorporate garages into homes, why can’t they incorporate solar panels? Shouldn’t be that difficult. Trouble is it’s something that should have happened while all the building was going on over the last few years, and didn’t. The need for them together with the resistance to them, should force the industry to sit up and take note. Someone who has paid a small fortune for their little stucco home, does not want a strange contraption spoiling the aesthetic lines of their pride and joy. Enough cultural and architectural heritage has already been destroyed, with unappealing prefabs and high rise chaos. IMO it would be a pity to add to the clutter.
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Participant[quote=PKMAN]
It’s sad to see that even though everyone knows that we have a pending energy crisis, aesthetic is still valued over practicality.[/quote]I agree, but houses do have ‘design’ and it is part of the value when you buy one. If builders can incorporate garages into homes, why can’t they incorporate solar panels? Shouldn’t be that difficult. Trouble is it’s something that should have happened while all the building was going on over the last few years, and didn’t. The need for them together with the resistance to them, should force the industry to sit up and take note. Someone who has paid a small fortune for their little stucco home, does not want a strange contraption spoiling the aesthetic lines of their pride and joy. Enough cultural and architectural heritage has already been destroyed, with unappealing prefabs and high rise chaos. IMO it would be a pity to add to the clutter.
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Participant[quote=PKMAN]
It’s sad to see that even though everyone knows that we have a pending energy crisis, aesthetic is still valued over practicality.[/quote]I agree, but houses do have ‘design’ and it is part of the value when you buy one. If builders can incorporate garages into homes, why can’t they incorporate solar panels? Shouldn’t be that difficult. Trouble is it’s something that should have happened while all the building was going on over the last few years, and didn’t. The need for them together with the resistance to them, should force the industry to sit up and take note. Someone who has paid a small fortune for their little stucco home, does not want a strange contraption spoiling the aesthetic lines of their pride and joy. Enough cultural and architectural heritage has already been destroyed, with unappealing prefabs and high rise chaos. IMO it would be a pity to add to the clutter.
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ParticipantI think they must have heard the word “Fannie” and thought “Yeah!” that’s us.
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ParticipantI think they must have heard the word “Fannie” and thought “Yeah!” that’s us.
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ParticipantI think they must have heard the word “Fannie” and thought “Yeah!” that’s us.
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ParticipantI think they must have heard the word “Fannie” and thought “Yeah!” that’s us.
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ParticipantI think they must have heard the word “Fannie” and thought “Yeah!” that’s us.
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