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August 13, 2011 at 5:42 PM #720057August 13, 2011 at 6:51 PM #718853
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ParticipantThat’s fascinating data, CAR. What is interesting is that stress related illnesses have skyrocketed along that timeframe was well. So the middle class gets hit with a double whammy, of decreasing coverage and increasing illnesses. Then, kids get less attention as well as being raised in an increasingly stressful environment that makes them act out in school. It’s just a cascading, interconnected web of issues that is going to get worse.
August 13, 2011 at 6:51 PM #718943ParticipantThat’s fascinating data, CAR. What is interesting is that stress related illnesses have skyrocketed along that timeframe was well. So the middle class gets hit with a double whammy, of decreasing coverage and increasing illnesses. Then, kids get less attention as well as being raised in an increasingly stressful environment that makes them act out in school. It’s just a cascading, interconnected web of issues that is going to get worse.
August 13, 2011 at 6:51 PM #719544ParticipantThat’s fascinating data, CAR. What is interesting is that stress related illnesses have skyrocketed along that timeframe was well. So the middle class gets hit with a double whammy, of decreasing coverage and increasing illnesses. Then, kids get less attention as well as being raised in an increasingly stressful environment that makes them act out in school. It’s just a cascading, interconnected web of issues that is going to get worse.
August 13, 2011 at 6:51 PM #719701ParticipantThat’s fascinating data, CAR. What is interesting is that stress related illnesses have skyrocketed along that timeframe was well. So the middle class gets hit with a double whammy, of decreasing coverage and increasing illnesses. Then, kids get less attention as well as being raised in an increasingly stressful environment that makes them act out in school. It’s just a cascading, interconnected web of issues that is going to get worse.
August 13, 2011 at 6:51 PM #720062ParticipantThat’s fascinating data, CAR. What is interesting is that stress related illnesses have skyrocketed along that timeframe was well. So the middle class gets hit with a double whammy, of decreasing coverage and increasing illnesses. Then, kids get less attention as well as being raised in an increasingly stressful environment that makes them act out in school. It’s just a cascading, interconnected web of issues that is going to get worse.
August 13, 2011 at 7:27 PM #718858bearishgurl
ParticipantIf I have this straight, sdr thinks my owning “3 TV’s” in my house situated in a “lower middle class neighborhood at best,” (lol) have somehow “skewed” my values. FWIW, when I moved in over ten years ago, I only had the 1988, with rabbit ears. I bought the 2nd TV for one of my kids ($160) and they used rabbit ears as well. I didn’t get cable until a year after that. The first year or so I owned the HDTV, no HDTV channels were even available in my area! It was an out-of-the-box floor display and I bought it for half-price at the time. (Similar-sized flatscreens at that time were $3500 – $5500.)
When I DID finally hook up an HDTV box to it, I got only four HDTV channels for the first 3 years of svc.
In March of 2010, I turned in my box and shut my cable service off, because it became too expensive. In April of this year, I had the cable and box reconnected, when made a good offer by the cable company. Up to this day, I have only watched about one hour of TV per week (and sometimes not even that). My TV’s were/are for my kid(s).
When my last kid leaves for college, I will promptly be turning in my cable box and shutting my service off.
The $$ I could get for my old TVs (in combination with my “good looks”) could possibly buy me a decent haircut, lol!
And sdr, you have NO IDEA how “partially-employed” I am …. or not. I could say the same about you. Did you ever consider that it is entirely possible that I can post on blogs, chew gum and “work” all at the same time? To your benefit, this just happens to be a “working weekend” for me :=]
How many TV’s do YOU have, sdr?? Just curious.
August 13, 2011 at 7:27 PM #718948ParticipantIf I have this straight, sdr thinks my owning “3 TV’s” in my house situated in a “lower middle class neighborhood at best,” (lol) have somehow “skewed” my values. FWIW, when I moved in over ten years ago, I only had the 1988, with rabbit ears. I bought the 2nd TV for one of my kids ($160) and they used rabbit ears as well. I didn’t get cable until a year after that. The first year or so I owned the HDTV, no HDTV channels were even available in my area! It was an out-of-the-box floor display and I bought it for half-price at the time. (Similar-sized flatscreens at that time were $3500 – $5500.)
When I DID finally hook up an HDTV box to it, I got only four HDTV channels for the first 3 years of svc.
In March of 2010, I turned in my box and shut my cable service off, because it became too expensive. In April of this year, I had the cable and box reconnected, when made a good offer by the cable company. Up to this day, I have only watched about one hour of TV per week (and sometimes not even that). My TV’s were/are for my kid(s).
When my last kid leaves for college, I will promptly be turning in my cable box and shutting my service off.
The $$ I could get for my old TVs (in combination with my “good looks”) could possibly buy me a decent haircut, lol!
And sdr, you have NO IDEA how “partially-employed” I am …. or not. I could say the same about you. Did you ever consider that it is entirely possible that I can post on blogs, chew gum and “work” all at the same time? To your benefit, this just happens to be a “working weekend” for me :=]
How many TV’s do YOU have, sdr?? Just curious.
August 13, 2011 at 7:27 PM #719549ParticipantIf I have this straight, sdr thinks my owning “3 TV’s” in my house situated in a “lower middle class neighborhood at best,” (lol) have somehow “skewed” my values. FWIW, when I moved in over ten years ago, I only had the 1988, with rabbit ears. I bought the 2nd TV for one of my kids ($160) and they used rabbit ears as well. I didn’t get cable until a year after that. The first year or so I owned the HDTV, no HDTV channels were even available in my area! It was an out-of-the-box floor display and I bought it for half-price at the time. (Similar-sized flatscreens at that time were $3500 – $5500.)
When I DID finally hook up an HDTV box to it, I got only four HDTV channels for the first 3 years of svc.
In March of 2010, I turned in my box and shut my cable service off, because it became too expensive. In April of this year, I had the cable and box reconnected, when made a good offer by the cable company. Up to this day, I have only watched about one hour of TV per week (and sometimes not even that). My TV’s were/are for my kid(s).
When my last kid leaves for college, I will promptly be turning in my cable box and shutting my service off.
The $$ I could get for my old TVs (in combination with my “good looks”) could possibly buy me a decent haircut, lol!
And sdr, you have NO IDEA how “partially-employed” I am …. or not. I could say the same about you. Did you ever consider that it is entirely possible that I can post on blogs, chew gum and “work” all at the same time? To your benefit, this just happens to be a “working weekend” for me :=]
How many TV’s do YOU have, sdr?? Just curious.
August 13, 2011 at 7:27 PM #719706ParticipantIf I have this straight, sdr thinks my owning “3 TV’s” in my house situated in a “lower middle class neighborhood at best,” (lol) have somehow “skewed” my values. FWIW, when I moved in over ten years ago, I only had the 1988, with rabbit ears. I bought the 2nd TV for one of my kids ($160) and they used rabbit ears as well. I didn’t get cable until a year after that. The first year or so I owned the HDTV, no HDTV channels were even available in my area! It was an out-of-the-box floor display and I bought it for half-price at the time. (Similar-sized flatscreens at that time were $3500 – $5500.)
When I DID finally hook up an HDTV box to it, I got only four HDTV channels for the first 3 years of svc.
In March of 2010, I turned in my box and shut my cable service off, because it became too expensive. In April of this year, I had the cable and box reconnected, when made a good offer by the cable company. Up to this day, I have only watched about one hour of TV per week (and sometimes not even that). My TV’s were/are for my kid(s).
When my last kid leaves for college, I will promptly be turning in my cable box and shutting my service off.
The $$ I could get for my old TVs (in combination with my “good looks”) could possibly buy me a decent haircut, lol!
And sdr, you have NO IDEA how “partially-employed” I am …. or not. I could say the same about you. Did you ever consider that it is entirely possible that I can post on blogs, chew gum and “work” all at the same time? To your benefit, this just happens to be a “working weekend” for me :=]
How many TV’s do YOU have, sdr?? Just curious.
August 13, 2011 at 7:27 PM #720067ParticipantIf I have this straight, sdr thinks my owning “3 TV’s” in my house situated in a “lower middle class neighborhood at best,” (lol) have somehow “skewed” my values. FWIW, when I moved in over ten years ago, I only had the 1988, with rabbit ears. I bought the 2nd TV for one of my kids ($160) and they used rabbit ears as well. I didn’t get cable until a year after that. The first year or so I owned the HDTV, no HDTV channels were even available in my area! It was an out-of-the-box floor display and I bought it for half-price at the time. (Similar-sized flatscreens at that time were $3500 – $5500.)
When I DID finally hook up an HDTV box to it, I got only four HDTV channels for the first 3 years of svc.
In March of 2010, I turned in my box and shut my cable service off, because it became too expensive. In April of this year, I had the cable and box reconnected, when made a good offer by the cable company. Up to this day, I have only watched about one hour of TV per week (and sometimes not even that). My TV’s were/are for my kid(s).
When my last kid leaves for college, I will promptly be turning in my cable box and shutting my service off.
The $$ I could get for my old TVs (in combination with my “good looks”) could possibly buy me a decent haircut, lol!
And sdr, you have NO IDEA how “partially-employed” I am …. or not. I could say the same about you. Did you ever consider that it is entirely possible that I can post on blogs, chew gum and “work” all at the same time? To your benefit, this just happens to be a “working weekend” for me :=]
How many TV’s do YOU have, sdr?? Just curious.
August 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM #718867sdrealtor
Participantget off it BG, I am not addressing your values but rather society at large’s value. Growing up people I knew didnt have 3 TV’s or eat out every week. My best friend’s father was VP of sales and Marketing for a pretty large international company. They drove 2 simple american cars, lived in 1800 sq ft 2 story home w/ a 1 car garage, never travelled to Europe and rarely travelled anywhere but FLA to visit family. He had a big time job. When he retired, he was one of 2 co-founders of what was the #1 sports memorabilia company in the country and sold out at the peak when they went public for 8 figures and never altered their lifestyle much. Another good friends father was a physician and drove a Dodge dart until the wells fell off. They like most of the people I know lived simple comfortable lives but saved and retired comfortably.
I listen to the lifestyle CAR says she grew up around and wonder how much here and her DH’s parents retired with? I wonder whether they were living beyond their means and not saving much? I don’t know? Maybe she can fill us in?
August 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM #718958Participantget off it BG, I am not addressing your values but rather society at large’s value. Growing up people I knew didnt have 3 TV’s or eat out every week. My best friend’s father was VP of sales and Marketing for a pretty large international company. They drove 2 simple american cars, lived in 1800 sq ft 2 story home w/ a 1 car garage, never travelled to Europe and rarely travelled anywhere but FLA to visit family. He had a big time job. When he retired, he was one of 2 co-founders of what was the #1 sports memorabilia company in the country and sold out at the peak when they went public for 8 figures and never altered their lifestyle much. Another good friends father was a physician and drove a Dodge dart until the wells fell off. They like most of the people I know lived simple comfortable lives but saved and retired comfortably.
I listen to the lifestyle CAR says she grew up around and wonder how much here and her DH’s parents retired with? I wonder whether they were living beyond their means and not saving much? I don’t know? Maybe she can fill us in?
August 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM #719559Participantget off it BG, I am not addressing your values but rather society at large’s value. Growing up people I knew didnt have 3 TV’s or eat out every week. My best friend’s father was VP of sales and Marketing for a pretty large international company. They drove 2 simple american cars, lived in 1800 sq ft 2 story home w/ a 1 car garage, never travelled to Europe and rarely travelled anywhere but FLA to visit family. He had a big time job. When he retired, he was one of 2 co-founders of what was the #1 sports memorabilia company in the country and sold out at the peak when they went public for 8 figures and never altered their lifestyle much. Another good friends father was a physician and drove a Dodge dart until the wells fell off. They like most of the people I know lived simple comfortable lives but saved and retired comfortably.
I listen to the lifestyle CAR says she grew up around and wonder how much here and her DH’s parents retired with? I wonder whether they were living beyond their means and not saving much? I don’t know? Maybe she can fill us in?
August 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM #719716Participantget off it BG, I am not addressing your values but rather society at large’s value. Growing up people I knew didnt have 3 TV’s or eat out every week. My best friend’s father was VP of sales and Marketing for a pretty large international company. They drove 2 simple american cars, lived in 1800 sq ft 2 story home w/ a 1 car garage, never travelled to Europe and rarely travelled anywhere but FLA to visit family. He had a big time job. When he retired, he was one of 2 co-founders of what was the #1 sports memorabilia company in the country and sold out at the peak when they went public for 8 figures and never altered their lifestyle much. Another good friends father was a physician and drove a Dodge dart until the wells fell off. They like most of the people I know lived simple comfortable lives but saved and retired comfortably.
I listen to the lifestyle CAR says she grew up around and wonder how much here and her DH’s parents retired with? I wonder whether they were living beyond their means and not saving much? I don’t know? Maybe she can fill us in?
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